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chuckie
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There is NEVER a good reason to cut another mans lock.
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BajaGringo
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I agree with Chuckie on this one. Offroaders who ride with bolt cutters and an attitude that they have the right to simply cut through the locked
gates of someone's private property are part of the growing problem down here. This attitude will only end up bringing MORE locked gates, road hazards
and a possible ban to offroad racing down here.
Another thing to consider is that locked gate may possibly have been put up by a cartel down here to protect their drug growing/logistics operation in
the remote areas of Baja. You cutting/busting through a locked gate in such a scenario could very likely get you shot.
Or worse...
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TMW
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If I was with someone who had a heart attack, stroke or was badly hurt in an accident I would not have a problem cutting a lock or take a section of
fence down to get thru for help. If I did take a fence down I would put it back up. If I cut a lock I would later try and find the owner.
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David K
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Of course, and all of you who did not read 4x4abc's post last year about the cutting the chain, to get out, should be informed before passing
judgement. They were at the end of a long dirt road, too far to turn around to reach a gas station. No option as it may be a month before the rancher
shows up. The fence was not damaged and the only harm was a chain with one link removed. No sign was at the other end of the road 20+ miles away
saying it was no longer open to through traffic (as it had been since the 1950s).
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chuckie
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There is NEVER a good reason to cut another mans lock.........
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David K
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TW posted the reason... life is more important than a chain at an abandoned ranch.
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chuckie
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There Is NEVER a good reason to cut another mans lock....
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bajaguy
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Sounds like a lack of planning on somebody's part
Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | Of course, and all of you who did not read 4x4abc's post last year about the cutting the chain, to get out, should be informed before passing
judgement. They were at the end of a long dirt road, too far to turn around to reach a gas station. No option as it may be a month before the rancher
shows up. The fence was not damaged and the only harm was a chain with one link removed. No sign was at the other end of the road 20+ miles away
saying it was no longer open to through traffic (as it had been since the 1950s). |
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bajatrailrider
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As far as drug growers putting lock on gate. Not so first thing when Military does there rounds.If they see a lock,they cut it or drive over (take out
wire /posts) I do not cut locks off. Where I ride even on main routes.When we come across new locked gate to block access.Problem many of the new
locked routes,are not the property.Of the person locking route.The Mexicans that normally,travel these routes. Remove lock, gate So being that I know
the area. Also ride with ranchers,I will take them on said route. They have told me,person that put gate up.Has no right to do so,that's why gone.Not
saying all gates like this. Thing is the 3 marooons that post there worthless posts.Just like to bring up,the bad about anything. They do not post
anything constitutive. In the case of Mt66 His stupid brainless posts are not only limited to off road. Everywhere he posts,he is put down told off.
In the case of the Op in question.He had no option,as no fuel to got back. So the 3 marooons would like to make big news of this.So how did my first
post,of working with ranchers. Have anything to do with Cutting lock off,or saying the op is not a responsible person. It is only attempt ,of marooons
to change subject. I get it,so be where marooons you will be called out.
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David K
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That weekend began at Mexicali (as far as gas goes)... down to the Pole Line Road for the run with Ken Cooke... two days in crawl 4x4 low range...
then with me, TW and Frigatebird to look for the grave of Melchior Diaz, then they were returning to La Paz while we headed back north. The (always
previously open) road, shown on maps, was their most direct way to Hwy. 3 near San Matias Pass to get on down to San Felipe and south.
The thread is here on Nomad, if anyone cares to read Harald and Karl's own words, rather than TW's and mine, please do so.
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chuckie
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What is this "called out chit"? Are you threatening people?
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | ...Thing is the 3 marooons that post there worthless posts.Just like to bring up,the bad about anything. They do not post anything constitutive...
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Really? That is all you see I do here on nomad?
Another reason why I spend less and less time here these days...
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TMW
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaGringo | | Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | ...Thing is the 3 marooons that post there worthless posts.Just like to bring up,the bad about anything. They do not post anything constitutive...
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Really? That is all you see I do here on nomad?
Another reason why I spend less and less time here these days... |
Ron, everyone that knows you knows you are a stand up guy and respected.
I think this discussion got side tracked from where Larry was going.
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaGringo | | Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | ...Thing is the 3 marooons that post there worthless posts.Just like to bring up,the bad about anything. They do not post anything constitutive...
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Really? That is all you see I do here on nomad?
Another reason why I spend less and less time here these days... |
There seems to be no room for disagreement on this forum. It degenerates immediately to name calling.
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chuckie
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Disagree..name calling and threats seem to be coming from bajatrailrider...His posts are almost unintelligible.
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bajatrailrider
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There not threats,name calling justified.For people that only live to think all must live the way they want.Since I dont tell Hikers/horse
backers/boaters / what to do. The marooons have no right to tell off road people what to do.Its called live and let live.Hope you understand chuckie
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bajatrailrider
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This I understand,but when the sewer posts. The sewer gets called out,you cannot justify anything MT66 says. This is a off road forum,not there
bashing grounds of off road people. If my Credibility is lowered so be it.As long as the sewer posters,start thinking to knock it off. My mission
accomplished.
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chuckie
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There is NEVER a good reason to cut another mans lock.
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Martyman
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | Disagree..name calling and threats seem to be coming from bajatrailrider...His posts are almost unintelligible. |
I think a maroon sewer is kinda like purple rain? (for clarification).
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | This I understand,but when the sewer posts. The sewer gets called out,you cannot justify anything MT66 says. This is a off road forum,not there
bashing grounds of off road people. If my Credibility is lowered so be it.As long as the sewer posters,start thinking to knock it off. My mission
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As many know on this forum, I off-road (jeep and quad) and we race off-road (quad and class 7). It does not mean I have to agree with what some
off-roaders do.. nor does it justify any kind of name calling.
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