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[*] posted on 5-18-2010 at 02:20 PM
Back in the 60s&70s....


.......we would pack our boats with beer and camping gear and head on over to the Colorado River to play for spring break or summer. From there we would go skiing and partying.:cool::saint:

We NEVER stayed on the Arizona side. Can someone guess why?;D

btw, the drinking age was 18 in AZ at that time.:bounce:




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[*] posted on 5-18-2010 at 03:42 PM
Nomad Youtubing


I suppose since Mexipop and others are going to keep posting the results of their endless YouTube surfing, SOMEONE should take up the position of YouTube Viewer to summarize whatever it is they're trying to convey.

For those of us who have never, and hopefully, will never view that site. Any Tube worth seeing will show up on the Cable News.

Any Volunteers with time on their hands ?

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[*] posted on 5-18-2010 at 04:10 PM


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Well said, Alan.
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[*] posted on 5-18-2010 at 04:27 PM


Alan has put it in simple terms. All the liberals can pack their boats with goodies and stay on the what ever side of the river that suit's 'em.:lol:
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[*] posted on 5-18-2010 at 05:08 PM


"What's a Liberal"? :lol:



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[*] posted on 5-18-2010 at 05:26 PM


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can't we change the subject to climate change? :bounce:
Let's just call it the weather. Global warming discussions opens a whole new door :lol:



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[*] posted on 5-18-2010 at 06:41 PM
Alan


I am trying to stay out of this string as I have said all I wish to say on the subject.

So, this is just to address your comments-

You speak of (I am paraphrasing here) Obama trying to push a Socialist agenda. Nothing could be further from the truth. Obama is a middle of the road politician. Sure, he is more Progressive in Social programs than you apparently would like, but he has deserted his voter base and has greatly disappointed.

This was my last election! I voted for the promised change that would deliver the country back to my political preference, but instead we got MORE OF THE SAME!

I have voted in every election including John F. Kennedy's. I used to believe that a party's platform made a difference. I believe things have changed radically since Reagan. Now I believe that it doesn't matter a whit which party is in control of either branch. It is all a charade.

No politician can reach the level of The Executive Branch or Congress without owing huge favors to the Corporate lobbyists. They are compelled to serve their Corporate masters. We The People (you, me, Liberals, Conservatives) are not represented. The Corporate Media only dupes you into thinking you are.

So, what we are left with is to argue ideologies here and elsewhere. That is merely an exercise in mast*rbat**n. It is silly and futile. We all need to stop this and find other ways to be friendly and civil! I understand your (and others') passion but in my opinion, it is misplaced.

For me it is interesting to read though, because there are huge chasms between people's ideologies, based on so many factors; geographical, upbringing, life's experience, being intellectually curious...or NOT, interest in other cultures, travel, and most of all...Liberals and Conservatives are just plain wired differently. I like to observe the differences and contemplate the viewpoints.

I believe our country is done. The great civilization is toast. What I am becoming is a passive bystander. I am not bitter. I am changing. I am transcending all of this B.S.. I have lost the passion because it just doesn't matter any more. What I haven't lost is my love for people and I will continue to serve them (us). I do care!
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[*] posted on 5-18-2010 at 08:03 PM


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I am trying to stay out of this string as I have said all I wish to say on the subject.

So, this is just to address your comments-

You speak of (I am paraphrasing here) Obama trying to push a Socialist agenda. Nothing could be further from the truth. Obama is a middle of the road politician. Sure, he is more Progressive in Social programs than you apparently would like, but he has deserted his voter base and has greatly disappointed.

This was my last election! I voted for the promised change that would deliver the country back to my political preference, but instead we got MORE OF THE SAME!

I have voted in every election including John F. Kennedy's. I used to believe that a party's platform made a difference. I believe things have changed radically since Reagan. Now I believe that it doesn't matter a whit which party is in control of either branch. It is all a charade.

No politician can reach the level of The Executive Branch or Congress without owing huge favors to the Corporate lobbyists. They are compelled to serve their Corporate masters. We The People (you, me, Liberals, Conservatives) are not represented. The Corporate Media only dupes you into thinking you are.

So, what we are left with is to argue ideologies here and elsewhere. That is merely an exercise in mast*rbat**n. It is silly and futile. We all need to stop this and find other ways to be friendly and civil! I understand your (and others') passion but in my opinion, it is misplaced.

For me it is interesting to read though, because there are huge chasms between people's ideologies, based on so many factors; geographical, upbringing, life's experience, being intellectually curious...or NOT, interest in other cultures, travel, and most of all...Liberals and Conservatives are just plain wired differently. I like to observe the differences and contemplate the viewpoints.

I believe our country is done. The great civilization is toast. What I am becoming is a passive bystander. I am not bitter. I am changing. I am transcending all of this B.S.. I have lost the passion because it just doesn't matter any more. What I haven't lost is my love for people and I will continue to serve them (us). I do care!
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[*] posted on 5-19-2010 at 04:48 AM


What's a liberal? The modern liberal is nothing more than a socialist.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2010 at 05:18 AM


What's a conservative? The modern conservative is nothing more than a fascist - which is just as stupid of a statement as what is stated above. This extreme divisiveness just might be the undoing of our country. I like to think I'm smarter than that. Are you?
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[*] posted on 5-19-2010 at 09:10 AM
Extreme Divisiveness and the END !


Yeah, that's EXACTLY what they said back in 1800.

Time and Time again since. Extreme divisiveness has been the rule rather than the exception.

It's Amusing that divided opposition was a "Patriotic" duty according to Pustule Pelosi and the DC Mongols when GWB was in office. Now that Offalman has ascended to the Throne of Saint Karl, opposition is BAD and destined to destroy the country.

Yeah, Right.

We can only Work and HOPE for the CHANGE that will DESTROY the goals set by the current Reich.

Meanwhile, back on point and on a lighter note, I saw yesterday where Darwin triumphed again at an Immigration-Rights protest held at a John McCain office. After attempting to disperse the Sit-In crowd, police arrested three "Refusniks" who turned out to be Illegal Aliens and will be turned over for Deportation. Those on both sides of the issue should applaud their misfortune. We simply don't need anymore people THAT Stupid.

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[*] posted on 5-19-2010 at 09:52 AM


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It's Amusing that divided opposition was a "Patriotic" duty according to Pustule Pelosi and the DC Mongols when GWB was in office. Now that Offalman has ascended to the Throne of Saint Karl, opposition is BAD and destined to destroy the country.

[Edited on 5-19-2010 by MrBillM]


Not only is it amusing, it makes perfect sense. ;D




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[*] posted on 5-19-2010 at 09:58 AM


So you'd like to think of yourself as being smart? I'd like to think of you as being smart also.:D
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[*] posted on 5-19-2010 at 02:22 PM


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[*] posted on 5-19-2010 at 04:00 PM
Following the Arizona Example


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[*] posted on 5-19-2010 at 04:08 PM
Talk about backlash!


This probably won't happen but............

Power Play Over Immigration Law
LA's boycott resolution sparks a threat over power the city receives from Arizona
By JONATHAN LLOYD and ROBERT KOVACIK
Updated 3:38 PM PDT, Wed, May 19, 2010

An Arizona utility commissioner said he's willing to pull the plug on Los Angeles if the city goes through with a boycott of his state.
In a letter to the city of LA, a member of Arizona's power commission said he would ask Arizona utility companies to cut off the power supply to Los Angeles. LA gets about 25 percent of its power from Arizona.
"That is one commissioner who has that idea -- whether he can do that or not is another idea," said LA Councilman Dennis Zine. "They are the ones who have to make the move, not us."
The commissioner's power grid play is in response to the city's approval of a resolution directing city staff to consider which contracts with Arizona can be terminated.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2010 at 04:13 PM


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it will be easy to boycott costa crapa, because there is nothing worthwhile in cost crapa.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2010 at 04:14 PM


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Prodded by nextdoor neighbor, Newport Beach, I'm sure. :bounce:
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[*] posted on 5-19-2010 at 04:17 PM


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This probably won't happen but............

Power Play Over Immigration Law
LA's boycott resolution sparks a threat over power the city receives from Arizona
By JONATHAN LLOYD and ROBERT KOVACIK
Updated 3:38 PM PDT, Wed, May 19, 2010

An Arizona utility commissioner said he's willing to pull the plug on Los Angeles if the city goes through with a boycott of his state.
In a letter to the city of LA, a member of Arizona's power commission said he would ask Arizona utility companies to cut off the power supply to Los Angeles. LA gets about 25 percent of its power from Arizona.
"That is one commissioner who has that idea -- whether he can do that or not is another idea," said LA Councilman Dennis Zine. "They are the ones who have to make the move, not us."
The commissioner's power grid play is in response to the city's approval of a resolution directing city staff to consider which contracts with Arizona can be terminated.


I recommend that in retaliation the CA National Guard go to Colorado River and appropriate all of Arizona's allotment of Colorado River. Next we enslave all zonies found living in CA and set up system so Californians may pick up free slave laborers at any Home Depot.
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Originally posted by tripledigitken
This probably won't happen but............

Power Play Over Immigration Law
LA's boycott resolution sparks a threat over power the city receives from Arizona
By JONATHAN LLOYD and ROBERT KOVACIK
Updated 3:38 PM PDT, Wed, May 19, 2010

An Arizona utility commissioner said he's willing to pull the plug on Los Angeles if the city goes through with a boycott of his state.
In a letter to the city of LA, a member of Arizona's power commission said he would ask Arizona utility companies to cut off the power supply to Los Angeles. LA gets about 25 percent of its power from Arizona.
"That is one commissioner who has that idea -- whether he can do that or not is another idea," said LA Councilman Dennis Zine. "They are the ones who have to make the move, not us."
The commissioner's power grid play is in response to the city's approval of a resolution directing city staff to consider which contracts with Arizona can be terminated.


Zonies are brilliant. The CA boycott of AZ is not hurting AZ business, so zonies want to feel more pain and devise plan to voluntarily cut sales to CA.
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