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BAJACAT
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Sounds good to, thanks Bajawarrior,for the offer, so it's done, will meet in Bajawarrior's house.And gadget, it's not that i don't want to be the
trail boss,the thing is Im not Familiar with this area.But like you say,lets have fun,and we can deside what to do when everybody is there.
It looks like this, we will meet in Bajawarrior's house on saturday,side trips from there.early morning sunday will head up to Matomi the easy way and
come back down the arroyo. Thanks guys for making this trip possible..
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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BAJACAT
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Chuck, thanks, I can wait..uhuhuhu...see you guys there
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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BajaWarrior
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Sounds like a plan! I leave on the 8th to go south so I'm sure we'll be able to tighten things up by then. At that point I will be offline, but I will
leave you a phone number for me down there plus BajaRob is my neighbor and can give me messages. In fact he may be interested in going, he's in Cabo
now.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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BAJACAT
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Chuck, can you give us directions to your place in Baja,you say it's about 6 ml south of Bahia San Maria..thanks.And yes your wife can lead the way to
the border,last time I was there I got lost,(mexicali border).
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJACAT
Chuck, can you give us directions to your place in Baja,you say it's about 6 ml south of Bahia San Maria..thanks.And yes your wife can lead the way to
the border,last time I was there I got lost,(mexicali border). |
You see BajaCat, it all worked out! Chuck is in the Bahia Santa Maria area, not south of it. Nuevo Mazatlan is just south of BSM and Chuck's place.
Gadget, the directions and GPS for Agua Caliente Canyon are in the 404 web page http://vivabaja.com/404
You go right to the center of the abandoned 'town' of Plan Nacional Agrario (Agua Caliente) and take the road that heads straight for the canyon. The
map of Valle Chico I drew will help.
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Gadget
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Shoot, I went back into the thread to look at something Chuck posted and lost my whole post.
Thanks Chuck, we all appreciate your kind offer and it will make things simple and centrally located. The directions to his place are in a previous
post.
Can you give us a description of some sort of marker you have or can put up at your driveway Chuck? That would be great.
We will be coming in sometime on Friday. Anyone want to hook up and carravan with us from San Diego, let me know.
May stay til Monday to head north, depends on the weather.
BajaCat, no worries, I'll take trail boss. I have all the gepis info in the nav system, so on point or 6 I can call the turns.
Goodies for the trip?:
Properly prepped vehicle
Radio for comm, VHF, CB, WT, not mandatory but makes it fun. Will sort out how to talk to each other when we are all together.
Good spare, jack, lug wrench
Vehicle tools and supplies
Human supplies
Foul weather gear
TP
Shovel
You all know the drill and if not ask 
Looking forward to this weekend and meeting more Nomads.
For all you that have been lurking to see if this is going to come off, there ya go. Time to jump in now too
David, got it all. Thanks for all the info bro
ALSO FOLKS,
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EVERYONE CONSIDER WHICH DAY OUR MAIN TRAIL RIDE WILL BE. IF EVERYONE WHO IS INTERESTED CAN BE DOWN FOR AN AM START ON SATURDAY,
I THINK THAT WOULD BE BEST. I WOULD LIKE TO TRY AND MAKE BOTH RANCHO MATOMI AND AGUA CALIENTE ON THE SAME TRIP OUT AS THEY ARE BOTH OUT AT THE END OF
THE EL PARRAL TRAIL. JUST IN CASE SOMEONE BREAKS FAR OUT AND IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET EM EXTRACTED. THEN WE CAN FART AROUND DOING WHAT EVER ON
SUNDAY AND FOLKS CAN HEAD NORTH AT THEIR LEASURE. FEEDBACK???
[Edited on 2-1-2008 by Gadget]
[Edited on 2-1-2008 by Gadget]
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BajaWarrior
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The road for my house is at the sign that says "Bahia Santa Maria", which is approximately 25 miles SOUTH of town. Rancho Percebu (large sign) is
about 6 miles NORTH of me and NORTH of that by a mile is "OH chit DIP" (These are great landmarks)
Go straight on the road until you literally hit the water/white corral fence and the road bends left.
My house is the 4th house once you have gone left, and there are only houses on the right (water side), oh yeah, its a two story, right on the road,
biggest house around, all brick, second story covered deck in back, Casa #24 sign in plain view, green facsia, red window trim,........
White Super Duty black rack with SANFLPA plates, red Toyota 4x4 with rack, green Bronco ll 4x4...
VHF Ch. 69
You'll see it.
Gadget, I'll u2u some phone numbers also this evening, BAJACAT too.
[Edited on 2-3-2008 by BajaWarrior]
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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Gadget
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaWarrior
The road for my house is at the sign that says "Bahia Santa Maria".
Go straight on the road until you literally hit the water/white corral fence and the road bends left.
My house is the 4th house once you have gone left, and there are only houses on the right (water side), oh yeah, its a two story, right on the road,
biggest house around, all brick, second story covered deck in back, Casa #24 sign in plain view, green facsia, red window trim,........
White Super Duty black rack with SANFLPA plates, red Toyota 4x4 with rack, green Bronco ll 4x4...
VHF Ch. 69
You'll see it.
Gadget, I'll u2u some phone numbers also this evening, BAJACAT too. |
There you go everyone. Be there or be square. Excludes Square circle cause he's already squarecircle 
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
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David K
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Having the main day trip on Sunday worked best the previous two group trips because not everyone can or wants to drive down Friday or Friday night...
Some who don't have to be at work Friday may, but most will only have the 3 day weekend off (Sat.-Mon.).
We did shorter day trip on Saturday (Sulfur Mine, Shell Island, etc.).
The Matomi run was on Sunday (try and get an early start to have more time there and maybe the hot springs too).
Monday was casual to pack up and head home. In 2004 we went to the sulfur mine Monday morning, it is only 5 miles from Nuevo Mazatlan or Bahia Santa
Maria.
Just letting you guys know what worked well before... Also, Nomad vehicles never break down!
Mexray's little Subaru Brat with 13" tires did the whole trip in '01. He hit something and heard a noise for awhile then hit another rock and the
noise went away! We called it the 'Self-repairing' Brat!!
[Edited on 2-1-2008 by David K]
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David K
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Nuevo Mazatlan to Matomi via Azufre Pass, from space
Nuevo Mazatlan to Sulfur Mine
Parral/ Azufre Pass road at Old Puertecitos road (low resolution)
Halfway through the mountain in 'Azufre Pass'
Caņada el Parral road reaches fence line in Valle Chico
Azufre Pass/ Caņada el Parral road at Valle Chico road
Valle Chico road grade down to Arroyo Matomi
Matomi Airstrip (staright section of the road in)
Rancho el Matomi
Click on any of these links, enlarge the new window, and you can scroll off the linked image and follow the road, as well as zoom out or in.
[Edited on 2-2-2008 by David K]
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David K
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To Agua Caliente Hot Springs as seen from space
This link is centered on the fork of the Valle Chico/ Matomi road with the Caņon Agua Caliente road, in the middle of the mostly abandoned ejido
village.
Plan Nacional Agrario (Agua Caliente ejido)
Canyon Entrance
Previous end of road in canyon
Hot spring
The hot springs are on the left side of the arroyo, and the hot stream is barely visible... the mountain stream is on the right side.
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BajaWarrior
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Hey guys, are we coming in the north end up by El Dorado?
Or the south end where Arroyo Matomi meets Hwy. 1?
MAYBE ENTER ON THE SOUTH END AND EXIT ON THE NORTH END?
What is the preferance?
How about the other guys and gals on the roster, still up for the trip?
Where are people staying? Early start for sure Sunday morning. Sunrise at 6 a.m.
If we're doing a meet at my house, I have enough coffee to cover everyone, two Mr. Coffee's going, with creamer and Kahlua if you want! Just need a
number of persons is all when we get closer.
Here are my numbers:
619-823-8563 San Diego and for leaving messages
619-957-0485 For while I'm in Baja, if I don't answer leave a message on the other line, I check it often. Messages cannot be retrieved on this phone
while roaming. But I can access messages on the San Diego phone, go figure. I have literally thousands of roll over minutes.
Again, I leave San Diego on Feb. 8th en la tarde.
ccherry@san.rr.com
Chuck
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[Edited on 2-2-2008 by BajaWarrior]
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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Gadget
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Having the main day trip on Sunday worked best the previous two group trips because not everyone can or wants to drive down Friday or Friday night...
Some who don't have to be at work Friday may, but most will only have the 3 day weekend off (Sat.-Mon.).
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Feed back means you're going David, that's great!
Seriously, was talking to Leslie over dinner and she has to work on Friday, so we will leave on Saturday also. Main trail ride will be Sunday.
She also was just informed that I have taken on the trail boss duty, that is if yaallelhavemee. She wanted me to inform everyone, which I think I
already have, that I will be a little over 3 weeks out from surgery on a knee and shoulder. Can't see it being an issue on my end other than doing my
business or maybe digging the truck out of a stuck. It will for sure slow me down behind the wheel which is bad for me, not you guys. So there, I
can show her it's official, you all know. If ya want to replace me, just try it 
See you Saturday driving down or at Chucks.
Oh heh, I always wanted to know how to put my quote in a quote box, now I know. 
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Neal Johns
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I am still up for the trip.
My motto:
Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
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David K
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Gadget, you won't get stuck! However, you do need to deflate if you go on Shell Island, Saturday!
Chuck, you didn't mention the third and SHORTEST way to Matomi or Agua Caliente Canyon... Azufre Wash/ Pass or in the Almanac: Caņada el Parral which
leaves the old Puertecitos road less than 2 miles south of the sulfur mine.
Neal Johns, great !!! You guys have nothing to fear now, Neal is going!
[Edited on 2-2-2008 by David K]
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Gadget
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One place I will not be going to is Shell Island. Unless the tide is out so far that the estuary dries up, there is no way I would purposely coat the
chassi of GSB with salt mud unless it was an emergency.
El Parral is how I have the trip mapped out, to get us out there and see the sights first, then we can burn daylight.
We are looking to set up a pit for the 250 at the top of Azufre which our insider says is going to be on course, so I am going to head out there on
Saturday and scout that. Will have current conditions for the crew run on Sunday. TT said there is big interest for the 250 and most all the lodging
in town is already booked. Score is starting to set course this weekend.
That's great Neal, look forward to meeting you and others.
Sign on Nomads, we got a great base camp location thanks to Chuck and some beautiful desert to play in.
[Edited on 2-2-2008 by Gadget]
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Hook
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Tides wont be that extreme that weekend. But at low tide, you might still be able to access "Shell Island" from Percebu by driving along the beach. No
mud to deal with the last time I did this in an import truck.
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David K
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Please don't drive across the empty lagoon to get onto the island... It's not worth it! The standard access in the middle will be dry if it is a
quarter moon phase...
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Bajaboy
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Found out that we have Bajababy  on the way so we'll be visiting family
that weekend. Have a great trip.
Zac
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BajaWarrior
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Hey Gadget.
I'll show you the secret (and safe) way to Shell Island.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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