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[*] posted on 4-27-2009 at 04:44 PM


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Has there been any cases reported in Ensenada? I was there last weekend and now feel sick.
I have been suffering from a bad sinus infection so it could still be from that.
I am going to the doc on Wens but really to talk about the sinus infection. I guess it's really a hard thing to get rid of.
But was curious about any reported cases around Ensenada.


My friend who lives in Ensenada told me yesterday, that as of that time there were no reported cases...
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[*] posted on 4-27-2009 at 04:49 PM


There was some vague reference to a couple of cases in Northern Baja. That's all I saw. Be advised that the symptoms involve fever over 100, with lots of coughing and lung congestion. that being said, it would not surprise me that this flu has been spreading for quite a while. Our friend Shari mentioned folks in Asuncion have similar symptoms. Appears that for the US, at least, this flu has relatively mild symptoms which is probably why it's been around for awhile and not been reported. Not everyone runs to the doc when they have a fever or a cough for a couple of days.
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[*] posted on 4-27-2009 at 04:57 PM


The mask thing. Note that when you go to most upscale Mexican grocers, the folks servicing the deli, seafood and meat areas wear masks. That's to prevent contaminating the food. In the case of flu, the dirty culprit is more often than not, the hand. Most viruses and bacteria make their way into your temple of God by way of your eyes and nose. Hence, the reminder to frequently wash your hands. Seems that most folks unconsciously need to touch their nose and eyes. I know I do it. So, in a way, wearing gloves is probably better than wearing a mask. Pero, lava sus manos.

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[*] posted on 4-27-2009 at 05:45 PM


Took 5 year old into the Todos Santos clinic today because he has been coughing at night. Good news is they checked him out and said his chest is clear and the fact he doesn't have a fever or been vomiting or doing the other end she said not to worry. Well I will keep a close eye on him.

The bad news is that they were all wearing those blue masks and told me to buy them for my todos familia. I asked why and the lady who seemed to know more than anyone else said in all seriousness that there have been 5 confirmed cases of this flu in La Paz and one muerte.

Went to three different pharmacias and no masks in stock. I gave up and figured I'm pretty isolated where I'm at and will just hunker down and probably wouldn't wear the mask anyway. A lady in one of the pharmacies in Todos Santos said she heard of one muerte in Cabo...not sure of number of cases.

Just passing this info along and of course can't vouch for the accuracy.

Schools closed nationwide...with an announcement to be made by the govt May 6th. So at this point we don't know when schools will reopen.

Also one person I spoke with said he was unable to obtain Tamifil from the mainland. Thinks govt only has 1m doses and saving for the most serious cases.

Mi esposo is able to get Tamifil from Target in NorCal but not the liquid kind for kids.

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[*] posted on 4-27-2009 at 06:12 PM


rumours are rampant...in vizcaino, a guy told me there were several cases there already so I asked a health nurse who confirmed that is NOT true...no cases...yet but rumours are catching like wildfire....run piggy run



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[*] posted on 4-27-2009 at 06:16 PM


WE are still planning on going to Asuncion, we will be careful, but I am NOT missing this trip!:dudette:



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[*] posted on 4-27-2009 at 06:52 PM


so far I only sasw ne small girl wearing a mask at my neighbors b-day party yesterday. I definately noticed it but never said anything to my family about it. less than an hour later the girl was playing with other kids mask pulled down under the chin.



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[*] posted on 4-27-2009 at 07:48 PM


Heard on the radio this afternoon that all of this started in the Cancun area... any word on that?

In San Diego, it seems that the average age of those infected is 16 years old. Lots of school aged kids, like those in New York, etc. Everyone in the States seems to be able to recover from this flu. Not so lucky in Mexico where I hear the death toll is rising quickly, last number I heard was over 125 deaths.

A returning cruise ship to San Diego this moring from Cabo - they would not let anyone leave the boat and everyone missed their flights back home - all were very upset about it. When questioning the Customs folks, they said there was a problem with the number of passengers on the boat - more than what was supposed to be on there, and it was taking them longer to figure everything out. But, one has to think it might be that they are checking everyone for this flu virus.

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[*] posted on 4-27-2009 at 10:47 PM


I've heard reports of "flu like symptoms". When you read about a pro ballplayer suffering from this, it usually means he was too hungover to play. I wonder how many hangovers are being upgraded to potential swine flu?
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[*] posted on 4-27-2009 at 10:53 PM


Back in my Oceanfront Newport days we use to call it Newport flu. Guaranteed to catch it once a month at least.;D
Now that I live up the hill I never catch it. Except in Baja but I think it's a different strain.:lol:

[Edited on 4-28-2009 by fishbuck]




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[*] posted on 4-28-2009 at 08:27 AM
News on the Pandemic


The virus is spreading fast as the blue masks have all been sprayed with the virus. It is an Al Queda plot.

I heard the entire village of Todos Santos was wiped off the map, last night. One Nomad who was planning to leave, soon, did not escape in time.




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[*] posted on 4-28-2009 at 08:37 AM


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The virus is spreading fast as the blue masks have all been sprayed with the virus. It is an Al Queda plot.

I heard the entire village of Todos Santos was wiped off the map, last night. One Nomad who was planning to leave, soon, did not escape in time.

Just his luck :lol::lol:
He won't get to rest in peace. :saint:




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[*] posted on 4-28-2009 at 09:30 AM


Funny stuff... but, I'm not too sure this is a laughing matter.
Just my opinion.
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[*] posted on 4-28-2009 at 06:42 PM
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That it's the Same Government telling us there is no cause for alarm that told us a few about Housing, Banks, Bailouts and a lot of other things.

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[*] posted on 4-28-2009 at 06:52 PM


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[*] posted on 4-28-2009 at 10:36 PM


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Just curious as to why you only sip a half a cup? A whole cup is detrimental? I really like bajaguy's idea. Alcohol has got to kill some of those nasty bugs, right???


:lol: :lol: :lol:

In fact maybe I'll just skip the tea step completely...

Dont skip the tea. Fact is that even if it doesn't help with the cold, the garlic will keep the fleas off ya!



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[*] posted on 4-28-2009 at 11:13 PM


Like no one thinks caboron is going to spin the Vegas aspect of Baja?
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[*] posted on 4-28-2009 at 11:18 PM
Masks dont work


The masks do nothing except make people feel safer. The virus is small enough to go right through those masks without even slowing down.
Besides direct human contact exchanging money is the easiest way to spread a virus.
It goes from there to our eyes or nose the two main places we are always sticking our fingers without thinking about it.
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[*] posted on 4-28-2009 at 11:22 PM


I was wearing one of the masks today. It's just a little cloth mask with elastic ear straps. I seriously doubt if it's air tight around the edges.

[Edited on 4-29-2009 by fishbuck]




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[*] posted on 4-28-2009 at 11:52 PM


FYI and I was surprised to read that some of those cheap looking masks are effective.
Flu Masks

Virusus are very small >.03 microns. Which will pass easily through any of those filter they show. What they consider is the droplet size from a sneeze etc.

~0.02-0.30 µm for viruses,
~ 2.0-5.0 µm for fungal spores
~ 0.3–10 µm for most bacterial cells/spores

Their size, in conjunction with the carrier matrix upon
generation from a source, changes as they are
aerosolized and exposed to environmental factors (RH,
temperature) that favor desiccation or hygroscopicity.
With rapid desiccation, the resultant smaller aerosols can
remain airborne longer, while larger aerosols may initially
fall out and then become re-suspended after desiccation.

"Respiratory disease
are expelled from the
respiratory tract within a
matrix of mucus and other
secretions that typically begin
to desiccate upon expulsion
by coughing, sneezing,
talking, or singing.
The dried residuals of these
large aerosols are termed
droplet nuclei (0.5-12 µm)"

" Particle size and shape determine
behavior of the agent suspended in air.
Airborne particles, regardless of size or
shape are referred to in terms of their
equivalent (or aerodynamic) diameter."

Here is the rest:

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/resources/pressrel/announceme...

You be da judge.

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