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Skeet/Loreto
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You Guys and Gals Made my Day!
Thanks for your Comments;
Comon some of you Young Ones. Start Dreaming!'What would you like to do?
Where would you like to go??
Someone might step up to the Plate and give you a Hand-up and help you start your adventure.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
I have a small mark on my butt (I can't see it but I can feel it) which was made by a rubber arrowhead when I was just a kid. I'll be 74 years old
next month and I have been on many, many quests. I have not seen the Golden Goat but I've seen The Varmint and not many men still alive can say that.
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"The Varmint"... I know your old .... but.. wait a minute.. 
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Dummies or DOPERS?? Which one are you?? |
Seems that in Skeeterman's world, there are only these two categories to choose from.
Which begs the question; which are you, Skeet?
[Edited on 9-23-2010 by Bajatripper]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
I am still looking for someone to step up the Plate and become an Adventuer!!
mAYBE THERE IS SOMEONE OUT THERE WHO WILL FEEL THAT cALLING IN HIS HEART AND mIND.
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The so sad truth is that Skeet means well, he's just extremely challenged when it comes to articulating it for public consumption. I do feel for you,
brother.
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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto[ to Mcfez"
[1] What is the difference in Black and White.??
[a] Acceptance of what is. Why make definitions of one...when none is needed. Why define in the first place?
[2] What is the difference in Eyes that Slant/straight eyes??
[a] See answer to number one!
[3] I am not putting any reason for the difference only when I post about the Cultural aspects of different Races.
[a] Your presentation of words puts assumptions within the words....who you are kidding? Maybe you need to update the way you put words in a sentence
....so that it really does not offend others....whether intentional or accidentally. We all watch our tongue when speaking to others.....on any
subject.
[4]What difference does it make "What I THINK??????????
[a] It don't....till you transfer your thoughts into a public reading. I remember years ago on this forum...there was a lot of crude stuff being said.
Many of us (me being the Yankeeirshman) would complain a lot because kids were reading the forum as well. So....wa'la.....the Teen Perspective Forum
was created. So yes...the young ones do read your statements and see it as Judgment. And the old ones too...as me.....see Judgment.
[5]What difference does it make "WHAT I SAY???/////
[a] see 4 for same answer
[6]There is a difference when someone "ACTS"!!!!!!!
[a] You damn right....and that's why I spoke on this matter. If you wish to "ACT"...then do it properly with out making any sort of distinction when
referring to others....race, religion creed whatever. I dont have a clue what you are...a Skeet....a Viking?
A fat little wimp? A John Wayne ? Black guy? Mexican? Do I care? Should i care? HELL NO!
[7]You Children are still having trouble with Facts/Fiction.
[a] You are the one with the trouble with Facts/Fiction. Your thought pattern started dying back in the 60's. My kid will always have troubles when
someone speaks to him/her the way you write. I hope you don't speak to innocent children and that you are just a bored dude behind the keyboard
today...trolling.
[8]Oh! well it will still be the same a 100 years from Now.
[a] Ah....wrong! Look at the times since you were a beat cop in L.A. back in the 60's......that's a 50 year span.
Note: your quote-"It will never change! It is in the Genes otherwise why does an Asian have slanted Eyes"
Well it does change dude! The American Natives blood background is from the travelers of hundreds of years ago from the area now called Asia! Slanted
eyes...the American native? Haven t seen one yet. So...time does indeed change all.....you need to change too.
If you feel that perhaps your words were a bit harsh....just delete the post and we all be on our way to talking about getting kids to be young
explorers.
My apologizes to the readers here. I am not trying to showboat here, rather trying to education the damage one can do with words. No one likes to be
defined.
[Edited on 9-23-2010 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by RedondoGolfer
Thank you Dennis and Skeet for the kind words and welcome.
Then the question might/would be "why don't they today?" The quest is not so much about bravery as finding oneself alone with one's own dream. The
military is purported to be as well trained and competent as ever so I'm not disparaging them, but it's a different experience.
I think some of the historical quest came from an innate human desire to push the inner border, and outer physical borders. So the American experience
might have been Manifest Destiny, the indigenous people to make a man able to push onward to new hunting grounds. One of more extraordinary things
I've ever read was regarding settling the Americas by the Amerinds. Imagine the original Amerind gene pool crossing the Arctic bridge was 4 men and 13
women, their decendents travelling and settling and becoming distinct cultures, all the way to Patagonia in 12,000 years. Extraordinary. these people
were fueled by more than physical needs, they were always scanning the horizon.
My grandchildren live in Montana and have no idea, or interest, their grandmother's grandfather settled the Crazy mountains at the time of Custer,
that he had arrow wounds from encounters, lived to 104 as a working cattle rancher off the grid before solar panels and gore tex. They bounce in front
of the TV to Wii machines like kids in suburban New Jersey while their mother irons their soccer uniforms and frets about whether they should wear
helmets with this rough game.
We apparently don't want any true individuality, or hero's, or men who have seen the Golden Goat. |
Do you think it's as hopeless as some of this post makes it sound? In some of my readings, I've come across the "Grand Tour" concept of a couple of
centuries past that the sons (and a few daughters) of Europe's wealthy embarked on upon graduation from whatever institution of higher learning they
came from. Often accompanied by a mentor to explain things, they toured the great cities and ruins around the Mediterranean Sea and such on a
year-long (or more) quest for enlightment.
In contemporary times, this might be equated to the U.S.-equivalent of going on a Road Trip, such as my son and his best friend did when he graduated
from High School. They drove around much of the country, visiting places of personal interest to them--which varied from Mt. Rushmore to New Orleans.
I've also known of many who take off for Europe, Asia, or South America on backpack trips after completing their university studies--embarking on
their own personal quests of discovery and understanding. I'd consider both of these examples as contemporary Rites of Passage of our youth. I'm sure
there are others that people could mention.
[Edited on 9-23-2010 by Bajatripper]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
"swarmed by the yellow hordes".....maybe not by them personally but by their new-found wealth and world influence. |
Yeah....it's hard to accept that white guys aren't always in charge
Welcome to the rest of the planet
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by RedondoGolfer..... "the quest". .... from Greek mythology to Jack London to Jack Kerouac to aboriginal/indigenous
peoples all demanded men go out and find themselves through a lonely and dangerous test. |
Yeah the Spirit Quest thing is what it is....and I think Jack Kerouac drank himself to death living a mundane and uneventful life after his Spirit
Quest....a sad ending for a Beat Generation Guru....
On The Road, Skeet?
I understand that you cleared a lot of corrals and barns as a young guy....so you know that horsechit is still horsechit, no matter how you wrap it
up.
Don't believe everything you think....
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Skeet/Loreto
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McFez:
You may have "Hit the Nail on The head"
Why Fez do so many people become offended by some Dumb Butts Words.?
I may have been in error as I was brought up"Sticks and Stones may break my Bones, Words cannot Harm Me!!!
Have we brought up a bunch of Cry Baby Whimps who did not learn to Fight for their Rights instead of calling People Names?
I think you may be right, I just cannot accept someone calling other people Bad Names as being Legit. The person calling the Name is the Dummie.
And I do try to be Descriptive when I refer to the Weak Minded Cry Baby Whimps. I try to use Verbs and descriptions and actions.
motoged: I have no trouble at all in accepting who is in charge, But what is interesting is Who is Following those that are in Charge?? And Why are
they following is what is Sad-Money ,DOPE No Common Sense, etc.
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RedondoGolfer
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Thank you Shari and Wesson for the greeting and kind words.
And Bajatripper for the challenge.I tried to use maybe and other words of self-doubt and conditionalness in my post. I personally believe what I wrote
but I'm open to language and expression of notions changing with time.
So I will use myself as an example rather than confuse myself with abstractions. I'd always hear my father and his peer group discuss their
involvement in building the Alaskan Hwy and great tales of deprivation. So my own addition to their tales was to go further north, find more ice and
snow, walk closer to the edge. I would hitchike to Alaska every summer between college semesters and work on fishing boats, for the BLM on fires,
building the Hickel hwy., etc.
These made for grand tales back in Wisconsin. If I had grown up in Fairbanks they woulda been as common place as working on a hay farm in Wisconsin.
The point? It's why we do the thing, not the absolute danger.
Later on I would explore the Nelson, Laird, Nahinni and Mckenzie rivers of BS, Yukon, and NWT alone. I would take as few supplies as possible, always
testing the edge of the experience. I would imagine the aluminum canoe I had vs. the wood canoes, the modern tent with a floor and fine netting
against the darkness the mosquitos could bring to the middle of the day when settling on my tent, that frightening (to me) motor sound a million
mosquitos could make and wonder "how did the indigenuous people, or first explorers survive?" Are the bears more or less dangerous than 100 years ago
in the middle of the night if I mistakenly make my camp in a berry patch having pulled in late in the day above the rapids. I think a person, and
their worldview, changes positively for having willingly put themselves in these places.
Maybe we'll never go to the moon again. Maybe we've discovered all the lost missions of Baja. Maybe we don't want to find and civilize the last group
of headhunters in New Guinea. Maybe we no longer want to make men who want to do something at or over the limits. It's not a good thing or a bad
thing, but it is an interesting thing.
If someone is challenged by taking the Orient Express from Vienna to Istanbul who am I to say it's not worthy?
I'm just interested in the furball of ideas and implications surrounding this topic.
Old Mexican saying "A man becomes a man when a man is needed" (source unknown).
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
McFez:
You may have "Hit the Nail on The head"
Why Fez do so many people become offended by some Dumb Butts Words.?
I may have been in error as I was brought up"Sticks and Stones may break my Bones, Words cannot Harm Me!!!
Have we brought up a bunch of Cry Baby Whimps who did not learn to Fight for their Rights instead of calling People Names?
I think you may be right, I just cannot accept someone calling other people Bad Names as being Legit. The person calling the Name is the Dummie.
And I do try to be Descriptive when I refer to the Weak Minded Cry Baby Whimps. I try to use Verbs and descriptions and actions.
motoged: I have no trouble at all in accepting who is in charge, But what is interesting is Who is Following those that are in Charge?? And Why are
they following is what is Sad-Money ,DOPE No Common Sense, etc. |
Skeet/Loreto .....I was a "kid" once upon a time that was so severely judged......by strangers and some family....it changed my world. I was
different from "you rest". I talked funny...had a ponytail...nearly deaf. I believed the judgmental jerks for a long time, and then revolted. Badly.
Tough guy for years...your ex pals at the force could look me up and see bad news. Though never in Jail...just lucky! But again....due to the
darkness of childhood definitions ...It forced me to become a very successful business(s) operator, family man, and friend to all. I am tamed.
And your response to me Sir.....Highly accepted and appreciated. Turns out that you are a 100% real Baja man. A Viking's King to be able to
say..."whoops" . Sign me up for this boat trip of yours.
[Edited on 9-23-2010 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by RedondoGolfer
Old Mexican saying "A man becomes a man when a man is needed" (source unknown). |
Lupe down at Anthony's says that all the time. That Lupe is really smart....huh. 
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Dennis why do I have the suspicion you're having an inside joke at my expense ?
I may have heard of Anthony's, maybe. Lupe, nope, not by that name.
And to self-correct the quote is "a boy becomes a man when a man is necessary". Does Lupe say that or does she draw the line at this point?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Lupe down at Anthony's says that all the time. |
Lupe is also fond of saying, "love hurts."
So I'm told
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| Quote: | Originally posted by RedondoGolfer
Does Lupe say that or does she draw the line at this point? |
I can't tell what she's saying most of the time. She's from Oaxaca and only two feet tall.
Dave's right about that "Love Hurts" song. Lupe can be heard bellowing it like a Mariachi all over the neighborhood sometimes.
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Why do you have to be "young"? I'm 61 and I'll wave as Don-Kay and I walk on by on our way to Cabo.
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61 is young. Stop by for a cold one and a bowl of Alfalfa.
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Mcfez:
Thank You> I have respect for you. Why??
Because you gave us an idea of what you have done with your life and Why.
Is it not a Shame theat more of our Posters would come Clean with their Background and experince and tell us what they have done and doing.
Now for a religious thing: The Prayer of Jabez
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Back in the early eighties we made a trip to Cabo to see if we wanted to sail in. Comitan gets seasick and I run with white knuckle terror when the
boat tips so though we raced SF bay in gails we decided to camp.
We started going to the main land when we were going to be killed on any beach and found if something happened to one person it was verbally repeated
year after year as a last week thing. Toured Mx. by RV one end to the other and settled in La Paz. Is that enough back ground.
We know and love Mx.
If its not where it is, its where it isn\'t.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by RedondoGolfer
My grandchildren live in Montana and have no idea, or interest, their grandmother's grandfather settled the Crazy mountains at the time of Custer,
that he had arrow wounds from encounters, lived to 104 as a working cattle rancher off the grid before solar panels and gore tex. They bounce in front
of the TV to Wii machines like kids in suburban New Jersey while their mother irons their soccer uniforms and frets about whether they should wear
helmets with this rough game.
We apparently don't want any true individuality, or hero's, or men who have seen the Golden Goat. |
golfer dude:
every generation finds their own path. don't fault kids today because they are not interested in your interests.
p.s. some might think it a bit lame to romanticize your ancestors that slaughtered the indians,... those ancestors practiced their genocide because
they were like skeet, bigots.
p.p.s. wft is the golden goat?
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