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[*] posted on 6-30-2011 at 06:58 AM


the infant mortality rate in mexico is 21/1000. infant mortality rate in USA is 7/1000.
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[*] posted on 6-30-2011 at 07:09 AM


Here I am on September 18th, 2002 day before Enzl was born. Don't mind the clothes I am a size 4 and I could only wear huge t-shirts and my husbands futbol shorts

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[*] posted on 6-30-2011 at 07:13 AM


Bajafam, I was grateful to read your thread, good Mojo there, thanks.

In regard to health care, here, there, home or hospital, I can't help but think that it is the luck of the draw.

I have a friend who recently went back to the vets hospital in the states to do her annual check up, which led to an emergency surgury. I just received the information that she is in intensive care due to an infection that she picked up there. She is a registered nurse very well versed in Western Medicine, why this should have happened to her I cannot imagine. Sh*t happens I guess, that's all.

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[*] posted on 6-30-2011 at 07:25 AM


Great story, Pamela, and well told!
I particularly appreciated the part where Enzi's circulatory system kicked in and the calamari analogy.
Something the other half of us can relate to.
I'll bet it wasn't long until you had to beware of how he was positioned during strategic operations to avoid being hosed down, also similar to calamari.
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[*] posted on 6-30-2011 at 09:05 PM


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the infant mortality rate in mexico is 21/1000. infant mortality rate in USA is 7/1000.


According to UNICEF it was actually 15/1000 in 2009.
Infant mortality is also based on infants under 1 year, not on still births. what you should really look at is the perinatal mortality rate, which is the rate of neonatal deaths and stillbirths (of which Mexico is 7/1000 according to UNICEF and the US is 4/1000, so not much difference).

BUT, with infant mortality, compared to the global average of 49.4/1000, Mexico is looking pretty good. AND I'm not talking about Mexico as a whole, I am referring to Baja - which fluctuates depending on your source. 14.9/1000 according to Geo-Mexico.

I believe the high rates of infant mortality are based on SIDS cases, and accidents where the infants are not properly restrained. Also, thanks to corporations such as Nestle pushing formula, many developing countries are not breast feeding their babies, and are unable to afford the formula, leading to many infant deaths due to malnutrition.

I agree with the recommendation of "The Business of Being Born" it is an eye-opening film and a declaration of the sad state that the US is in. I was not lucky like Pam to have birthed at home, although I was ready to do so. I desperately wanted a natural (as much as possible in the hospital) birth, but I instead opted out of pain meds for my induction.

One last comparison, and I tell you from experience that my care in Baja was on par with my care in the US. More so, in the fact that I was one of two mothers giving birth, whereas in the US for my daughter's birth I was shuffled through a line of mother's awaiting the inductions, c-sections, and a rare "come as you are" births. My son's bill was $750 total. My daughter's was $15,000. Hmmm. AND no one forced the idea of circumcision on me in Mexico. I would NOT have been so lucky in the US. sad.




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I believe the high rates of infant mortality are based on SIDS cases, and accidents where the infants are not properly restrained. Also, thanks to corporations such as Nestle pushing formula, many developing countries are not breast feeding their babies, and are unable to afford the formula, leading to many infant deaths due to malnutrition.

I agree with the recommendation of "The Business of Being Born" it is an eye-opening film and a declaration of the sad state that the US is in. I was not lucky like Pam to have birthed at home, although I was ready to do so. I desperately wanted a natural (as much as possible in the hospital) birth, but I instead opted out of pain meds for my induction.

One last comparison, and I tell you from experience that my care in Baja was on par with my care in the US. More so, in the fact that I was one of two mothers giving birth, whereas in the US for my daughter's birth I was shuffled through a line of mother's awaiting the inductions, c-sections, and a rare "come as you are" births. My son's bill was $750 total. My daughter's was $15,000. Hmmm. AND no one forced the idea of circumcision on me in Mexico. I would NOT have been so lucky in the US. sad.


I will look up the film. Yes it certainly is a business that reminds me of factory farming. Boo on the baby formula and double boo on circumcision a totally unnecessary procedure.

to shorten the hospital birth story, as it was Easter Sunday I was the lone patient in the hospital that night and I did a few things out of the ordinary: I insisted my husband stay by my side (usually a serious no no), and I refused to lay down (a totally stupid position) until the last minute to let gravity do some of the work. During the most intense part I did ask for pain meds but they didn't have any, I even asked for Tequila but they told me no. :lol:
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[*] posted on 7-2-2011 at 12:54 PM


I was one of two patients, my husband was there the whole time, no questions asked, as was such with my daughter, who was 2 1/2 at the time and stayed with me overnight (hubs slept in the car with the dogs - although he could have stayed with me had he wanted to). I must confess that this was in a private hospital, not in an IMSS facility, although we had looked into the one closest to where we were staying and it was very nice.

Formula has it's place, but should NOT be offered unless medically necessary. It happens in the states and I was saddened to have it happen in Baja - after being born and not even a half an hour into this world and already an attempt to force feed formula. I just took the bottle, smiled and nodded. My daughter was formula fed (and I blame the nurses in the hospital for forcing formula on her within the first hour!) but I refused to have the same thing happen to my son. I was determined to feed this baby naturally!!

Circumcision, on the other hand, is very, very, very, very rarely medically necessary and that is all I will say about that :rolleyes:




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