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Sweetwater
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I thought that the road from the west is making a lot of progress towards Comandu when we visited last February. It seemed that there was also some
preparation and restoration of the towns that had begun already.
Does anyone have a recent report on the road from Francisco Villa to the east?
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From what I read in the papers, the road is being fixed and there was work being done so it will be easier to get there soon. One of a zillion neat
things there is that INAH makes sure that all restorations are monitored and they have strict guidelines for what can be done there to keep it's
historical essence in tact...no OXXO's there by golly!
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Just to recap all this wonderful info, could anyone please give me the low down on rooms and gasoline for a trip coast-to-coast with the Comondus in
between? I want to put together a trip for 3 or 4 couples to make, so lots of planning needs to be done.
Thanks for your help!
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David K
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Mileages on the maps below on most of the roads mentioned:
Here's a bigger area view:
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David K
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There is a new paved road to San Juanico (Scorpion Bay) now that starts at Las Barrancas and goes north over the La Purisima River merging with the
older road from La Purisima... Not shown on this map:
But added to this one:
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shari
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there are several options for accomodations...you could stay in San Juanico and do a day trip up to Comondu or San Jose de Comondu has some funky
cabin type places beside the store there or ask some of the locals about La Vinya. We couldnt find the owners once when we went up and we stayed in a
room behind La Cancha in San Miguel de Comondu so it's a bit risky for rooms there but San Juanico has some nice places.
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LisaR.
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I just saw this trip report--what beautiful pictures and imagery, shari! Thanks for bringing us all along with you!
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Nice and friendly accommodation in La Purisima is Posada del Angel...
Located on north side of main road going through town....behind this place on a corner:
The kind owner....he used to be a teacher in town for decades....was now retired... (forget names....and he is wearing a hat ):
There is a rough road going south from La Purisima to Los Commondus...need to have 4-w drive or a bike for one section of about 300 feet in middle of
route....otherwise good road:
Some of the good road:
The bad bit in middle of route:
A link to more pics and info:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=666961&page=7
[Edited on 2-5-2012 by motoged]
[Edited on 2-5-2012 by motoged]
[Edited on 1-21-2013 by BajaNomad]
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David K
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Baja Fun, in the sun... OFF ROAD (off paved roads, that is). The road between La Purisima/ San Isidro and San Jose Comondu parallels (and crosses) the
Jesuit EL CAMINO REAL built there in the early 1700's... It can easily be seen from space on Google Earth, Wikimapia, and other satellite map sites.
Maps and satellite images ECR from Mision Guadalupe to Mision Purisima to Mision San Jose de Comondu: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=37233
[Edited on 2-5-2012 by David K]
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Beautiful presentation Shari! And beautiful places to present!
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Thanks all...our amigo Cisco just returned from the Comondu's and reports that the road is newly paved nearly all the way in now...wooo hooo. Cisco
brought the good folk wine bottles and corks for their amazing wines thay make there....and he brought us back a couple bottles which are amazing. You
can also buy the lovely organic fresh fruits and veggies they grow.
I cant wait to return there next month!
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Very cool to hear you can access the valley from the west.....but the road north to San Isidro is trashed per MotoGed.....and the road to the east
which connects with the San Javier junction and will get you to Loreto is also trashed (per me).......so can somebody enlighten me on the road east
from San Isidro towards the Sea of Cortez? I rode it last year and it seemed to be in fairly good condition.....? is that still true?
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
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Quote: | Originally posted by Sweetwater
Very cool to hear you can access the valley from the west.....but the road north to San Isidro is trashed per MotoGed.....and the road to the east
which connects with the San Javier junction and will get you to Loreto is also trashed (per me).......so can somebody enlighten me on the road east
from San Isidro towards the Sea of Cortez? I rode it last year and it seemed to be in fairly good condition.....? is that still true?
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Remember.... BAD roads bring GOOD people! Get a Toyota (or other good 4WD) and enjoy Baja the way it used to be, today!
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Sweetwater-
I believe the "East Road," as we call it around here, from San Isidro to HWY 1 is in good shape, probably as good as it has ever been according to
someone who drove it mid-December, 2011. At least that's a relief.
We also drove the road from Comondus to San Isidro a few years back and it was horrible then. Only passable by ignorant jeep drivers and men on
horseback. Motoged's description is very accurate. That trip experience made me a fan of Baja Nomad.
I was under the impression that the Comondus to San Javier junction wasn't trashed, just slow going. What's the problem there? We almost took that
road a couple weeks ago, but postponed the trip. Please provide more info.
Cheers!
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Sweetwater
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Quote: | Originally posted by elfbrewery
Sweetwater-
I believe the "East Road," as we call it around here, from San Isidro to HWY 1 is in good shape, probably as good as it has ever been according to
someone who drove it mid-December, 2011. At least that's a relief.
We also drove the road from Comondus to San Isidro a few years back and it was horrible then. Only passable by ignorant jeep drivers and men on
horseback. Motoged's description is very accurate. That trip experience made me a fan of Baja Nomad.
I was under the impression that the Comondu to San Javier junction wasn't trashed, just slow going. What's the problem there? We almost took that
road a couple weeks ago, but postponed the trip. Please provide more info.
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I rode that route last March of 2011 on an XR650R and it was a very tough ride. We chose that route because we had been informed the road north out of
Comondu to La Purisima was in bad shape. When you leave Comondu, you climb several pitches that are simply talus slopes. It almost becomes single
track in several spots. And there are multiple spots to make significant mistakes that would strand you. We did not see any other vehicles on that
road and it took a long time to navigate to the junction with San Javier. It looks pretty similar to motogeds photos. From that junction, the road is
great in both directions.
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
Reality is what does not go away when you stop believing in it. -Philip K Dick
Nothing is worse than active ignorance. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe(1749-1832, German writer, artist and politician)
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SW,
Thanks for your road pics between Comondus and San Javier...
Just that one rough section???
Looks like your back tire has been having fun...
Don't believe everything you think....
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Sweetwater-
Thanks from me, too. The photos tell the story.
I suppose two wheels was bad enough. Would a jeep have gotten through??
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Quote: | Originally posted by elfbrewery
Sweetwater-
Thanks from me, too. The photos tell the story.
I suppose two wheels was bad enough. Would a jeep have gotten through?? |
Yes, a jeep with good clearance and rubber would be just fine. I don't think I'd take a 2wd through there, clearance would be the biggest issue but if
you lost traction, 4wd would also be necessary. There were other fugly sections but those photos are probably the worst....overall, it was challenging
for the entire ride.
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
Reality is what does not go away when you stop believing in it. -Philip K Dick
Nothing is worse than active ignorance. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe(1749-1832, German writer, artist and politician)
When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I\'ve never tried before. - Mae West
Experience is what keeps a man who makes the same mistake twice from admitting it the third time around.
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ok,Nomads im planning this route in late March, La Purisima-Comondu-San Javier..Im coming in from la Purisima on my return from la Paz..miles from
point to point would be nice,plus road conditions..We are driving a RAM truck 4x4 and a TRD TACOMA 4x4,,also doing the whale tour on San Ignacio,so
who do I seek for this in the Laguna...Thanks in advance, for the info.
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shari
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you are gonna love it....too bad I couldnt get the box of wine bottles and corks I have saved here for the wine makers up there...if possible please
pick me up 5 bottles from anybody up there...the furniture maker has the smoothest but the Tecate stor owner's is pretty dang amazing too...or
Vladimir's too. You can drop em off at Vialsol building supply place in Vizcaino...I'll get you the money via paypal or whatever....or stay a night
here for free!!!
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