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Mexitron
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | Predicting future weather conditions, climate change, etc. is still nothing more than a prediction, and not science. Science is the study of what is
and what was, not what might be:
In the May, 1940 issue of Desert Magazine (that's 75 years ago for those of you in Rio Linda or watching CNN & MSNBC):
RECORD DROUGHT IS
PREDICTED IN 1946
Super drought in 1946 with possibility
that Lake Mead will go dry in 25
years, was predicted by Halbert P. Gillette,
San Marino, California engineer in
discussion of geological calendar based
on silt deposits known as varves. Gillette
has spent 14 years studying varves, going
back 4200 years.
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Not that I'm defending any high-grade ability on our part to predict the weather but going back to 1940 to prove that weather science is BS is a
little far reaching--I mean we do have supercomputers now...I'd give us a slight edge over 1940. I am amazed, for instance, that the weather can be
somewhat reliably forecast 5 and even 10 days out now...in 1940 there were no computers being used for this, nor were there weather satellites--in
fact pretty much what they were using were communications from ocean-going ships to see what they weather was west of them. Predicting the weather
from geological strata is fraught with inconsistencies in the small time frame this guy was working with.
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SFandH
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That's not true.
Newton's theory of gravitation predicts a total lunar eclipse in San Diego this coming September 27th.
http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/in/usa/san-diego
Do you want to bet against it?
Good scientific theories have powerful predictive capabilities.
[Edited on 5-30-2015 by SFandH]
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| Quote: Originally posted by Mexitron | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Predicting future weather conditions, climate change, etc. is still nothing more than a prediction, and not science. Science is the study of what is
and what was, not what might be:
In the May, 1940 issue of Desert Magazine (that's 75 years ago for those of you in Rio Linda or watching CNN & MSNBC):
RECORD DROUGHT IS
PREDICTED IN 1946
Super drought in 1946 with possibility
that Lake Mead will go dry in 25
years, was predicted by Halbert P. Gillette,
San Marino, California engineer in
discussion of geological calendar based
on silt deposits known as varves. Gillette
has spent 14 years studying varves, going
back 4200 years.
• • • |
Not that I'm defending any high-grade ability on our part to predict the weather but going back to 1940 to prove that weather science is BS is a
little far reaching--I mean we do have supercomputers now...I'd give us a slight edge over 1940. I am amazed, for instance, that the weather can be
somewhat reliably forecast 5 and even 10 days out now...in 1940 there were no computers being used for this, nor were there weather satellites--in
fact pretty much what they were using were communications from ocean-going ships to see what they weather was west of them. Predicting the weather
from geological strata is fraught with inconsistencies in the small time frame this guy was working with. |
Have you seen a supercomputer. I heard that they were something made up by the government just to get more tax money. They also release water from
the reservoirs at night just to make you think they are going dry. ANd after Preisdent Obama takes over Texas, he is going to pronounce himself
dictator over the USA (he has the military backing him in this).
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California’s largest lake is slipping away amid an epic drought
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/californias-l...
"But that spigot is scheduled to be closed at the end of 2017, and the date looms like a hard deadline for ecological disaster."
Which can be observed ... up at Mono Lake ... when a lake dries up and the dry lake bed starts .. blowing around .. not to mention all the "toxic
materials" from industry that have come to rest in the bottom of the Salton Sea .. which will be part of what is blowing around .. there are other
examples of this effect ... on the planet, at this time
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elgatoloco
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Bump. 
MAGA
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
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Don't bump this. What if I start a thread with "Trouble Coming". Or how about "Not much rain again". Tio, point us to a place we start or don't post
at all. WTF
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Too late. The Donald already posted this morning. Suffahhhh........ 
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by Mexitron | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Predicting future weather conditions, climate change, etc. is still nothing more than a prediction, and not science. Science is the study of what is
and what was, not what might be:
In the May, 1940 issue of Desert Magazine (that's 75 years ago for those of you in Rio Linda or watching CNN & MSNBC):
RECORD DROUGHT IS
PREDICTED IN 1946
Super drought in 1946 with possibility
that Lake Mead will go dry in 25
years, was predicted by Halbert P. Gillette,
San Marino, California engineer in
discussion of geological calendar based
on silt deposits known as varves. Gillette
has spent 14 years studying varves, going
back 4200 years.
• • • |
Not that I'm defending any high-grade ability on our part to predict the weather but going back to 1940 to prove that weather science is BS is a
little far reaching--I mean we do have supercomputers now...I'd give us a slight edge over 1940. I am amazed, for instance, that the weather can be
somewhat reliably forecast 5 and even 10 days out now...in 1940 there were no computers being used for this, nor were there weather satellites--in
fact pretty much what they were using were communications from ocean-going ships to see what they weather was west of them. Predicting the weather
from geological strata is fraught with inconsistencies in the small time frame this guy was working with. |
Have you seen a supercomputer. I heard that they were something made up by the government just to get more tax money. They also release water from
the reservoirs at night just to make you think they are going dry. ANd after Preisdent Obama takes over Texas, he is going to pronounce himself
dictator over the USA (he has the military backing him in this).
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ROFLMAO
Wait, don't you have a Death Panel to attend? I just know that was also part of the Affordable Care Act.....
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
Reality is what does not go away when you stop believing in it. -Philip K Dick
Nothing is worse than active ignorance. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe(1749-1832, German writer, artist and politician)
When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I\'ve never tried before. - Mae West
Experience is what keeps a man who makes the same mistake twice from admitting it the third time around.
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rts551
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I think the Pope is going to ask you to start using science.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/15/pope-francis-de...
| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Predicting future weather conditions, climate change, etc. is still nothing more than a prediction, and not science. Science is the study of what is
and what was, not what might be:
In the May, 1940 issue of Desert Magazine (that's 75 years ago for those of you in Rio Linda or watching CNN & MSNBC):
RECORD DROUGHT IS
PREDICTED IN 1946
Super drought in 1946 with possibility
that Lake Mead will go dry in 25
years, was predicted by Halbert P. Gillette,
San Marino, California engineer in
discussion of geological calendar based
on silt deposits known as varves. Gillette
has spent 14 years studying varves, going
back 4200 years.
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Did the Pope make his statement yet? I saw where Rush basically told him to mind his own business.
[Edited on 6-18-2015 by norte]
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| Quote: Originally posted by norte | Did the Pope make his statement yet? I saw where Rush basically told him to mind his own business.
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it's everybody's business 
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The list of Republicans who want the Pope to be quiet about everything is growing. They not only don't want him to talk about climate change, they
don't want talking about things like poverty, economics, human rights, equality, etc.
Limbaugh called the Pope's comments about climate change Marxist ---
Good to see the Pope shake things up!
Ralph, I almost sprayed coffee all over my computer.
[Edited on 6-18-2015 by DianaT]
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Thot this had finally died, Osprey. Asked earlier if I could DELETE the whole mess. Understanding only Doug can wield this power? Oh Great One...
at least send it to the Otro Lado. Just goes to show ya...  Tio
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bajabuddha
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Tio, you've been a member since 2007. Haven't you noticed EVERY thread, if it makes it past page two at the latest either becomes a hijack or a
quasi-politico-climatological pizzing match between the same cadre with the same agendas saying the same exact things as the last thread that finally
got locked around page 8?
Don't take it so personal; once you pop it, you can't stop it! 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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wessongroup
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Will say that this year in SoCal ... .the "June Glom" has been somewhat absent again this year .. 90º in the shade here today with no marine layer
which is typical ... which is interesting and is found by some to have linkage to you know what
Scientist Says ‘June Gloom’ Disappearing As Weather Ripple Effect Escalates Drought
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/06/08/scientist-says-jun...
Born an raised in SoCal ... things have changed a bit
Not sure if the same is being seen in Baja ... ??
[Edited on 6-19-2015 by wessongroup]
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