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bezzell
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Quote: Originally posted by norte  | | Can you quote any facts to back up your bs.... and its Salud...and calmati is Italian. boy, hope you do not breed. |
Thanks for the heads up Happy Guy. (this would explain why your english is so poor. Now I get it)
Now get out there and chase those kids off your front lawn!
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vgabndo
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Humans evolved to be omnivores. That is the fact. It is perfectly normal for us to eat meat. That is a fact. If humans eating meat offends you it is
not the humans who are at fault. That is a fact. The more you express your opinions, the more I judge you to be under educated. That is a fact. You
aren't worth the time I've spent on you. That is an opinion.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Skipjack Joe
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Skipjack Joe
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What is incredible to me is how vegans take vitamin B12 supplements, because it's only source is animal meat, and then argue that man is a very pure
vegetarian in his natural state.
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bajabuddha
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Aw, common. At least Spam CAN be palatable, with enough Miracle Whip, Velveeta and Ketchup. 
Sowwy... 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe | | What is incredible to me is how vegans take vitamin B12 supplements, because it's only source is animal meat, and then argue that man is a very pure
vegetarian in his natural state. |
Your statement would be more correct if you said "its only source is RAW animal meat". Cooking (heat) destroys B12. Actually, the source of B12 is
bacteria in the dirt animals eat. Primitive man, like other animals, ingested plenty of that in the water he drank and the plant foods he ate.
Several of the foods I eat, raisin bran and soy milk for example, are fortified with B12, only tiny amounts (micro-grams) are needed. A few millionths
of a gram.
Also, this study indicates that 39% of individuals have B12 deficiency. I think vegans are around 1% of the population. So B12 deficiency is not a
"vegan problem". In fact, because vegans like me make sure we eat B12 fortified foods, we're probably in better shape B12 wise than the general
population. See:
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/2/514.long#sec-7
[Edited on 6-26-2015 by SFandH]
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chuckie
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Seems to be a lot of angst here ....What you eat is a personal choice and you shouldn't have to justify it to anyone.....I know that some folks just
like to argue and others just have to be right all the time....life goes on.....
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mtgoat666
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There would be more meat to eat, and a greater variety, if we would get over our cultural taboos and start enjoying other meats like horse, dog, cat,
whale, dolphin, porpoise, etc.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | There would be more meat to eat, and a greater variety, if we would get over our cultural taboos and start enjoying other meats like horse, dog, cat,
whale, dolphin, porpoise, etc. |
May as well add people to that list.
Bon Appetit!!
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woody with a view
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or consider the opposite. why not just stop eating all together? it'll go a LONG way towards a sustainable future.....
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chuckie
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Cheaper too...I bought a dozen eggs yesterday. almost 4 bucks...still looking for the chicken....
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vgabndo
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Organic cilantro at my local market yesterday. $1.75 AN OUNCE. Organic radishes were 66% more expensive than the tasty ones I actually bought. Many of
these "superior" food choices are just out of the reach of normal people. Perry Perry quite contrary, how fast can your garden grow.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Bajahowodd
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Dontcha just love it?
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Cliffy
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I love all animals-right next to my peas and taters
Zebra was the best of all I ate in my African trips
Just had the best prime rib I have ever had 2 nights ago at Lawry's in Vegas and it didn't even need ketchup on it!
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Skipjack Joe
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We forgot to mention the detritivores. They bat last.
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chuckie
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AND the humidors, for after dinner....
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vgabndo
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Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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bezzell
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ya ever notice how ALL necrotarians gotta utilise some kind of deodorant, cologne or perfume etc to mask their inevitable stinkiness ? It's no rocket
science ... it's 98.6 deg and all moist inside ya.
You could mock up that environment twice ... and place cooked or uncooked meat in one, and whatever plants in the other. Come back in a few days and
you tell me which one is NASTY !!?? 
The reason true carnivores and omnivores have an intestinal tract that's only 3 times the length of torso, with very smooth internal walls ... is so
that potential rotting carcass is eliminated ASAP. (evolution at it's finest)
Our intestines (like other evolved plant eaters) average 10-13 times torso length, with internal walls that are NOT smooth (which consequently can
cause 'food' passing through to get 'hung up') How do you think colon cancers / hemmorroids etc get started? Show me the stats that show vegans have
similar colon cancer / hemmeroid (sp) afflictions etc. NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
Ya think we've evolved to be 'P-nche hediondas' (sp) ??? (stinky butts)
And we'll just leave necrotarians' farts and eliminations alone!! HAHA
Translation: it's true!! my chit don't smell (it's actually kinda fruity  )
ps: Y'ALL DO REALISE WHAT THE SCIENCE TRANSLATES TO, WHEN THE FACT REMAINS THAT TRUE OMNIVORES NEVER GET ATHEROSCLEROSIS (#1 killer of people eating
SAD (Standard American Diet)) pssssst ... engage critical thinking skills NOW! (wink)
'It's easier to fool people, than to convince them they've been fooled' Mark Twain (?)
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norte
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| Quote: Originally posted by bezzell | ya ever notice how ALL necrotarians gotta utilise some kind of deodorant, cologne or perfume etc to mask their inevitable stinkiness ? It's no rocket
science ... it's 98.6 deg and all moist inside ya.
You could mock up that environment twice ... and place cooked or uncooked meat in one, and whatever plants in the other. Come back in a few days and
you tell me which one is NASTY !!??
The reason true carnivores and omnivores have an intestinal tract that's only 3 times the length of torso, with very smooth internal walls ... is so
that potential rotting carcass is eliminated ASAP. (evolution at it's finest)
Our intestines (like other evolved plant eaters) average 10-13 times torso length, with internal walls that are NOT smooth (which consequently can
cause 'food' passing through to get 'hung up') How do you think colon cancers / hemmorroids etc get started? Show me the stats that show vegans have
similar colon cancer / hemmeroid (sp) afflictions etc. NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
Ya think we've evolved to be 'P-nche hediondas' (sp) ??? (stinky butts)
And we'll just leave necrotarians' farts and eliminations alone!! HAHA
Translation: it's true!! my chit don't smell (it's actually kinda fruity )
ps: Y'ALL DO REALISE WHAT THE SCIENCE TRANSLATES TO, WHEN THE FACT REMAINS THAT TRUE OMNIVORES NEVER GET ATHEROSCLEROSIS (#1 killer of people eating
SAD (Standard American Diet)) pssssst ... engage critical thinking skills NOW! (wink)
'It's easier to fool people, than to convince them they've been fooled' Mark Twain (?) |
Man you got to get your nose out of your CHit.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/142427.php
are you a true vegen or do you eat living, breathing fish?
Ever heard of a spell checker? helps people who never made it out of the 4th grade.
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