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Bajazly
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Pretty much a snooze fest in San Felipe. We got more rain Friday night and Saturday morning than we did this morning when the storm came thru here.
Some standing water around and in town, bit of wind today but pretty disappointing here.
Good to see it lived up to the weather guessers predictions in some places.
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Bajazly, August 2019
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RFClark
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David,
I think that it’s this bridge. It’s just south of the rest area before the entrance to Punta Final (29.7226346, -114.4063720)
[Edited on 8-21-2023 by RFClark]
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David K
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Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  | David,
I think that it’s this bridge. It’s just south of the reat area before the entrance to Punta Final (29.7226346, -114.4063720)
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Yes, thank you... I just posted the video that was used above for those clips. Km. 155 is the BIG BRIDGE over Arroyo Santa María, eight kms. south of
Gonzaga Bay Pemex/ Rancho Grande Store. The bridge with the fancy monument. Sad that this and so many other new bridges were not built to actually
have lots of water flow under them!
Here is the short video... maybe turn off sound as it is just the wind noise in the microphone... https://www.facebook.com/elbrazopoderoso/videos/520965856862...
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RFClark
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David,
I think the poor footing design is deliberate. I think they would rather loose the approaches than loose the whole bridge. That said I may be giving
them credit they don’t deserve.
The other problem many Mexican bridges have is poor or no upstream channeling.
That said the US lost or had badly damaged the US 10 bridge at Whitewater yesterday. It had good channeling but probably took damage to its footings
from scouring as a result of the high velocity of the flow.
Anyone heard if the two bridges south of Santa Rosalia survived?
[Edited on 8-21-2023 by RFClark]
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HeyMulegeScott
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | David,
Anyone heard if the two bridges south of Santa Rosalia survived?
[Edited on 8-21-2023 by RFClark] |
Mulege to Santa Rosalia was reported as passable yesterday. Didn't see any images of damage to the bridges. https://www.facebook.com/radiokashana
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Santiago
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | David,
I think the poor footing design is deliberate. I think they would rather loose the approaches than loose the whole bridge. That said I may be giving
them credit they don’t deserve.
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Slight hijack: is the footing where the road leaves the ground and starts to span? I'm thinking that the 'footing' would be the foundation that is
under the piers? I must be wrong?
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Bwana_John
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| Quote: Originally posted by Santiago | | Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | David,
I think the poor footing design is deliberate. I think they would rather loose the approaches than loose the whole bridge. That said I may be giving
them credit they don’t deserve.
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Slight hijack: is the footing where the road leaves the ground and starts to span? I'm thinking that the 'footing' would be the foundation that is
under the piers? I must be wrong? |
“Abutment”
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JZ
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Took the ponies to the park late afternoon during the TS.
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RFClark
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Lencho,
See the gate’s not locked!
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RFClark
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Since Baja lives or dies by its road, roads and bridges are important. Here’s a link to a study done in Australia describing the remedial action
taken after a similar problem. For those interested it shows how bridge approaches are designed.
Bridges are designed to withstand flowing water of a certain depth, past that the approaches usually wash out first reducing the pressure on the
bridge. The approach pictured above is well designed, its design limit was exceeded by a substantial margin and it washed out. If that fails to reduce
the pressure on the bridge enough spans can collapse because their footings can be undermined.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/310673499_Restorati...
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mtgoat666
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After natural disasters, all nomads become armchair civil engineers and structural engineers!
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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AKgringo
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And a little further north....Burning Man is all wet!
The ancient dry lake bed that the festival is set up on is flooded by Hilary!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/burning-man-s-b...
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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David K
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Arroyo Santa María/ Las Arrastras bridge detour open
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PaulW
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Another picture showed a bulldozer deep in the space where the abutment washed away. The method shown above is much faster.
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RFClark
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David,
Your detour picture won’t load and now it does!
Goat,
The guy that designed the Tacoma narrows bridge was a Civil Engineer! The replacement bridge was still there yesterday when I drove across it!
Any flood water get under your bed?
[Edited on 8-23-2023 by RFClark]
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AKgringo
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My MSN news feed posted an article about San Felipe, and San Quintin being declared "disaster areas" and will be receiving federal assistance.
I haven't heard much about the damage there and was wondering if it was worse than other Baja communities, or do they just have better connections?
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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shari
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It’s been a week since we started preparing for the arrival of Hurricane Hilary here on the central Pacific coast in the Municipality of Mulege. It
was the biggest hurricane ever to hit our area and left a terrible disaster after high winds toppled trees, garages, roofs etc and the over 25' waves
came up into the main street of town at high tide. The best thing is that we got very little rain so streets arent flooded and traffic is flowing fine
now.
It's official, Bahia Asuncion was declared a disaster zone after Hilary. I was astounded how fast CFE got power back on the very next day and internet
too! The military brought in a huge crew by helicopter to clean up the streets and provide aid to the folks left without houses. The government
responded very quickly and the Governor and Municipal president flew in as well to assess the situation and reassure the village that help was
imminent.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/lyUTARP.jpg?1[/img]
It seems like it was just yesterday as this week has been a whirlwind of emotion and massive clean up and recovery from the worst hurricane ever to
hit our area. I am still physically very sore & traumatized grappling with the enormous task of repairing all the damage. Little by little with
lots of help we are picking up the mess….I found things that blew out of my garage 2 miles away!
Here at La Bufadora Inn, the hotel part which is newer is fine with hardly any damage except to my beautiful gardens. Thanks to my friends and great
crew we are all cleaned up & open for business and sure hope people come our way!
My house is in rough shape with some roof that flew off so it flooded badly. The walls were covered with sand and seaweed from the huge swells that
lashed the cliffside. Two garages blew down completely & some gates torn off. In the morning when I took a look at the devastation, I was sure I
parked my truck in the garage but there it was out in the open! I didn’t realize the whole garage was down.
Campo Sirena was damaged too but will be finished fixing up today! The Beach House was fine! Just a lot of debris.
I have been trying to coordinate help for my daughter who suffered terrible damage at our new Hacienda Baja Magic. She is just starting out with her
new business and really needs our help. Here is what she wrote about the storm.
SIRENA BONDY’S ACCOUNT OF HURRICAINE HILLARY at her Hacienda Baja Magic…3 DAYS AFTER.
Reading through all the posts, comments and scrolling through photos that our friends took up and down Baja, I feel a knot form in my throat and tears
in my eyes. As I look around our home, that doubles as our business and a home away from home for Baja Travelers, I realize the magnitude of damage
that we sustained here at our Hacienda Baja Magic in Guerrero Negro as well.
The night of Saturday, August 19th, and early morning of Sunday, August 20th, 2023, our beloved towns of the municipality of Mulege in Baja California
Sur, were hit by the largest hurricane I have seen in my 33 years on this planet.
As usual, a couple of days before, we heard on social media and weather platforms that a storm was coming. We began with our usual preparations,
taking down tents, boarding up windows, reinforcing fences, tying down roofs, purchasing essentials like gas, canned food, drinking water, etc. I
don’t think anyone was prepared for the amount of destruction that Hilary would leave in her wake.
As we were getting ready to go to bed Saturday night, I truly believed that it was “just another rain storm” and due to the fact we, in central
parts like Guerrero Negro, rarely get hit too hard, I was confident that I would wake up to very little damage…I was wrong.
At about midnight power began to flicker and we could hear the wind raging outside of our bedroom window. Doors were rattling and trees were heard
straining against the relentless winds. As my youngest son climbed into bed with me from a mattress I had put beside us on the floor for him. My first
pinch of fear was “what if the window bursts and he is up here with us?” which sent my mind in to overdrive in a domino effect of plans and
concerns for us, as well as all of our loved ones up and down the peninsula.
Then came the thought of my Mom, hours away, facing this raging storm by herself. I mentally reviewed all of her security measures and the strategies
we had always had in place when I was growing up in case of a storm…while I felt confident that she could handle pretty much anything I was still
worried to the point of being sick to my stomach.
All the while the door rattling became louder and more prominent…until finally I heard something crack. My first instinct was to jump up and go
check what it was, but my partner Charly of course being the voice of reason, held me back and said we were in the safest place in our home and we
could check on everything in the morning because it was not worth getting hurt over…I am so glad he did.
After a sleepless night of hearing glass breaking, wood cracking, and many loud bangs over the span of a few hours, daylight came through the blinds,
and even though the storm raged on, the wind was considerably less than it had been hours before.
Not being able to wait any longer I clutched a flashlight and crept out to our living room, where through glass doors I saw the utter destruction in
our clubhouse. The roof above our small indoor pool was torn clean off and was folded backward, laying on top of our kitchen roof, large beams still
suspended almost in mid-air and clashing up and down with the wind still. Our front and back doors were broken open by the force of the winds. The
cement wall top part was torn off and embedded in the part of the roof that had been raised about 15 cm. As I looked outside, I saw that a whole
portion of our wooden fence had been completely blown down and was laying in the middle of the road covered by a large puddle with mud and debris from
other homes in the area. Our beautiful garden which we spent months tending to and bringing back to glory was flattened, our trees bare, and not even
birds could be heard.
I don’t think it fully registered until a couple of hours later when we tried to patch up everything as best we could, all I was focused on was
survival mode in case the winds picked up again, not rationally realizing the storm was over.
I am well aware there were people that lost so much more, sadly this Hurricane took at least 4 lives, and we are fortunate to be healthy and have our
loved ones safe and sound. However, the daunting task of rebuilding both the Baja Magic Hacienda and my Mom’s Bufadora Inn will be costly and
ongoing… but as with everything we do it will be done with love and care.
We are so blessed to have friends and family that continue to support and help us, which truly does mean the world to us. We are overwhelmed by
everyone’s response to this tragedy and appreciate the help you are all willing to give. So many of you have offered to bring construction materials
down and while appreciated, we would really love to support our local businesses in buying materials for rebuilding, that way we can also help them
get back on their feet. My Mom set up a link we can send you if you want to help with our recovery.
Everything raised here will go directly to the repairs needed so we can be up and running to receive guests as soon as possible. We will also be
setting up a local drop spot here at the Hacienda for any clothes, blankets, materials people drop off when coming through which we in turn will
deliver to other families in need locally.
We thank you from the bottom of our hearts for always stepping up and helping in our times of need, those who know us know we do not hesitate to do
the same when our friends need us. If you care to help please go to my personal facebook page or to Baja Magicmx on Facebook to find the link to
directly send donations to us.
https://donate.stripe.com/9AQ6oDdQM6Ow1YQaEE
[Edited on 8-26-2023 by shari]
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