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Bajahowodd
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The threatened cut-off of power is a total non-starter. LADWP is a partial owner of the generating plants. If anyone ought to be upset if would be the
Native Americans on whose land the coal is mined for the plants.
This is a prime example of the 24 hour news cycle, cable TV and Fox News, and why they are all responsible for the unneeded shrillness of today's
public discourse. They are only doing what they do to sell toilet paper, Viagra and defective Japanese cars.
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This was forwarded to me by a friend in Tucson
We, in Arizona , know you're boycotting us -- but you really should come out here and see our Beautiful Sonoran Desert .
It's just gorgeous right now! We know you'd love it and maybe you can share what you saw with the rest of the country so they can love it too!
This is on an 'illegal super - highway' from Mexico to the USA ( Tucson ) used by human smugglers.
This area is located in a wash, approximately 1.5 miles long, just south of Tucson , Arizona . If a flood came, all this would be washed to the river
and then onto the sea!
It is estimated over 5,000 discarded backpacks are in this wash. Countless water containers, food wrappers, clothing, feces, including thousands of
soiled baby diapers. And as you can see in this picture, fresh footprints leading right into it.
As we kept walking down the wash, we thought for sure it was going to end, but around every corner was more and more trash!
And of course the trail leading out of the wash in our city, heads directly NORTH to Tucson , then leads to your town tomorrow.
They've already come through here. Isn't Arizona just beautiful, America ?
Why would you boycott us???
Our desert has basically been turned into a landfill.
The trash left behind by people illegally crossing our border is another Environmental Disaster to hit the USA .
If these actions had been done in one of our Northwest Forests or Seashore National Parks areas, there would be an uprising of the American
people.....but this is the Arizona-Mexican border.
You won't see these pictures on CNN, ABC, NBC or the Arizona Republic Repugnant newspaper. Nor will they mention the disease that comes from the
uncovered human waste left in our desert.
However, with respect to CNN, ABC & NBC, they do offer us "Special Reports" on cheating celebrity spouses....
This information needs to be seen by the rest of the country.
Capt. Mike and Cabo Ron should enjoy this one!
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I don't know, Udo. These pictures beg a million questions.
What do these people do...get to that point in their journey and take off all their clothes?
And what about uncovered animal waste, such as cows. What diseases do they spread?
It just strikes me as a bit hyperbolic, these photos and claims and nothing will hurt the legitimate cause in Arizona as much as theatrical nonsense.
It may sound mean, but I hope those pictures are real.
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When I first looked at the photos, Dennis, I thought these were from Mexico.
I am sure you have seen this mess in Mexico as well, Dennis, huh?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
When I first looked at the photos, Dennis, I thought these were from Mexico.
I am sure you have seen this mess in Mexico as well, Dennis, huh?
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Only at the dump.
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Udo
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Congratulations, DENNIS!
I are the 1000th poster on this topic!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
The threatened cut-off of power is a total non-starter. LADWP is a partial owner of the generating plants. If anyone ought to be upset if would be the
Native Americans on whose land the coal is mined for the plants.
This is a prime example of the 24 hour news cycle, cable TV and Fox News, and why they are all responsible for the unneeded shrillness of today's
public discourse. They are only doing what they do to sell toilet paper, Viagra and defective Japanese cars. |
And what was the Mayor of LA doing... please... take a look at the Mexican populations between in LA and in Phoenix/Tucson .... yeah.. they will not
be visiting and buying gas and food.. please...
SoCal is like 43% Mexican, not sure on Phoenix/Tucson now a days... would bet to be around the same... the numbers are the numbers...
Let's focus on the point of law which is in debate ...... not all this other stuff plus your aunt Molly's tamales... 
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If you PUNKS think that AMERICA is going down, you have another think Coming.
Just look at the Gun Sales in Texas! If you Punks don't look out we will take care of you like we did at the Alamo!!
We can defeat these Weak Minded Liberals without any Trouble/
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DENNIS
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Give'm hell, Skeeter. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
When I first looked at the photos, Dennis, I thought these were from Mexico.
I am sure you have seen this mess in Mexico as well, Dennis, huh?
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Only at the dump. |
It's the wonder of the internet. Any joker can post whatever they want. It's up to the beholder to make a conscious decision as to its veracity.
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Legal battle against Arizona’s law could become complicated
Wednesday, 5/19/10
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El Financiero (Mexico City) 5/18/10
A press report states that a legal memorandum dating to the administration of ex-President George W. Bush could complicate Barack Obama’s efforts to
confront Arizona’s law SB1070. If the government decides to start legal action to prevent that law from going into effect, the document seems to be in
conflict with the central argument that legal experts anticipate would be the core of the official case.
The existence of the document, written in 2002, turns out to be ironic because of the current administration’s intention to confront a law which
President Barack Obama has called “ill guided.” The document from the Office of Legal Counsel of the Department of Justice concluded that local law
enforcement has the “inherent power” to detain undocumented immigrants for violation of a federal law. The author of the Arizona law cited the
authority granted to local law enforcement in that memorandum as a basis for the controversial legislation.
The Obama administration has not rescinded the memorandum, and a legal action on the part of the Department of Justice would be embarrassing at least.
Robert Driscoll, an ex-official of the Department of Justice, who represents a sheriff in Arizona, pointed out how difficult it would be to “charge
someone for carrying out the authority which the Department says they have.” The Attorney General, Eric Holder, has stated that his office is
considering a lawsuit against Arizona and that the Civil Rights Division is conducting legal consultations on the matter.
Cecilia Wang, a lawyer with the ACLU, rejected the complications that the 2002 memorandum may cause because the Arizona law, she said, “goes much
further” than the basic authority that document grants in order to carry out arrests.
http://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/ElFinanciero/Portal/cfpages/c...
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Bajahowodd
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Time will tell. We all know that the Bush era legal posture was to devise any and all form of support to do whatever they felt like doing. If
anything, I think that conservatives should realize that much of what Obama has done and not done, has served to alienate his supposed liberal base.
Damned if he does; Damned if he doesn't.
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I've seen folks post numbers about how many favor or oppose the AZ law. Here are the numbers from Gallup.
Interesting website, my first visit.
+/- 4% on the numbers:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/127598/Americans-Favor-Oppose-Ari...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
When I first looked at the photos, Dennis, I thought these were from Mexico.
I am sure you have seen this mess in Mexico as well, Dennis, huh?
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Only at the dump. |
It's the wonder of the internet. Any joker can post whatever they want. It's up to the beholder to make a conscious decision as to its veracity.
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Very true.. any joker!!... would offer that the vegetation is similar to what one would expect to see in the area referenced ... and another
observation... now where and how would one "stage" something like this... believe on the National Geo Special they show something along these lines..
in their documentary.. a few months back.. but then I could be mistaking all that for Spring Break
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DENNIS
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I'm sure I'll get no answers to my questions. That just makes me more nervous.
I am, in no way, calling fraud. Just asking for insight. Can anyone offer an explaination as to why there is so much clothing on the ground. The
pictures I've seen of moving migrants show most of them empty handed and if they're carrying anything, it's water.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I don't know, Udo. These pictures beg a million questions.
What do these people do...get to that point in their journey and take off all their clothes?
And what about uncovered animal waste, such as cows. What diseases do they spread?
It just strikes me as a bit hyperbolic, these photos and claims and nothing will hurt the legitimate cause in Arizona as much as theatrical nonsense.
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those photos simply tell me how hard people try to get to US to serve burritos to and tend gardens of lard-butt gringos that never struggled a day in
their life. in striving for opportunity, they abandon their few, meager possesions they carried on their backs.
i will now root even more loudly for the downtrodden poor and huddled masses. i hope they owners of all those abandoned possessions reached their
goals and found peace and happiness.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I'm sure I'll get no answers to my questions. That just makes me more nervous.
I am, in no way, calling fraud. Just asking for insight. Can anyone offer an explaination as to why there is so much clothing on the ground. The
pictures I've seen of moving migrants show most of them empty handed and if they're carrying anything, it's water. |
people are exhausted after walking across desert and abandon items in struggle to soldier onward.
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If they had tamper-proof immigration cards that allowed employment in various industries here in the U.S. that have proven to have a genuine and
substantial labor shortage, I would welcome any number of immigrants from any country to fill those positions. Not a problem unless the population
gets out of hand. What we do not need, however, is immigrant labor facilitating the downward pressure on wages for jobs suitable for hard-working
non-college graduates to the point that every single one of these jobs will become jobs that only illegal immigrants will take. Mexico has the money
and natural resources to build a viable economy. This sneaking across the border nonsense that serves as a pressure relief valve is only postponing
the the necessity for Mexico to do so. I'm sorry, but Mexican employers are going to have to start paying their workers a living wage. They're the
real sinners in this big picture - not Arizona.
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good points Packy. you are right on target.
Mexico has to step up and take care of their own.
they need to create and support a middle class - Goat wants to speak of lard a$$ ricos in the States exploiting these poor souls....maybe he needs to
be more critical of the Mexican wealthy....they seem to exhibit ZERO egalantarianism.
in fact - i can tell you from experience as i have interloped with many rico Mexicans - they often look down their noses at their own huddled masses
with disdain...very ethnocentric class of people i must say.
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Packoderm, You are smart!
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