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David K
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Lets not get political... I just want Vgabundo to know because we all got together to help Ron and Cristina that it WASN'T an example of (what he
called) 'socialism'... (a government program).. but of PRIVATE CITIZENS working together to help one of our own.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Lets not get political... I just want Vgabundo to know because we all got together to help Ron and Cristina that it WASN'T an example of (what he
called) 'socialism'... (a government program).. but of PRIVATE CITIZENS working together to help one of our own. |
dk: you need to turn off your tv and get a dictionary! crikey!
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LVNature
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Wow! I am convinced that all your support and prayers made this possible.
Seeing the reactions of Doctors and Nurses on Wednesday at the hospital and hearing their comments after they seen Ron that afternoon has left no
doubt that this is truly a Miracle.
Thank You God for hearing us out..........!
Nomads, keep up the good work you are doing. All of you.
Sirenita, Muchisimas gracias por todo. Eres increible!
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Barbareno
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I very much appreciate what Vagabundo and Mulegena have said here.
There has been so much positive energy felt here on the Nomad board that it was impossible to keep a dry eye. I for one really felt a connection with
all of you. Could it be synchronicity at work? The power of prayer? Yes, I do believe so.
Sirenita you are amazing.
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Osprey
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Some Nomad friends have said privately that they have kept the matter very quiet with their families because they don't want to alarm them to the
dangers down here. I respect that but the other side of that coin is that this place is peopled by frontier types who help each other when things go
wrong.
For every cultural clash there exists thousands of intercultural displays of affection and kindness -- this whole exercise has been an ongoing symbol
of that spirit. While we watch and wonder while fear keeps others NOB let's hope this event will not diminish our love of the place and it's people.
Over the next few months I expect to see an inordinate number of posts about Bear Mace and Flare Guns. Hope they are offset by trip reports of fun
loving travelers enjoying the place as they always have.
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TMW
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
Some Nomad friends have said privately that they have kept the matter very quiet with their families because they don't want to alarm them to the
dangers down here. I respect that but the other side of that coin is that this place is peopled by frontier types who help each other when things go
wrong.
For every cultural clash there exists thousands of intercultural displays of affection and kindness -- this whole exercise has been an ongoing symbol
of that spirit. While we watch and wonder while fear keeps others NOB let's hope this event will not diminish our love of the place and it's people.
Over the next few months I expect to see an inordinate number of posts about Bear Mace and Flare Guns. Hope they are offset by trip reports of fun
loving travelers enjoying the place as they always have. |
Well said.
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oladulce
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
... Over the next few months I expect to see an inordinate number of posts about Bear Mace and Flare Guns. Hope they are offset by trip reports of fun
loving travelers enjoying the place as they always have. |
No time for lots of posts- busy collecting emergency info for neighbors, researching radio systems for distress calls between our distant neighbors,
discussing the merits of various intruder injury-inflicting devices and placing online orders to upgrade what we have.
If we were paranoid about living in Mexico we wouldn't be here, but this incident has been a slap in the face not to be complacent about emergency
planning and a reminder that we will be on our own. Unless someone has a question that I have the info for, I'll keep it to myself to save space for
trip reports and photos, traveler guidance and Mexico info that is the focus of this forum.
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DENNIS
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Why would people tell their kids to do something they themselves won't?
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Be Prepared.
That's the motto of the Boy Scouts.
"Be prepared for what?" someone once asked Baden-Powell, the founder of Scouting,
"Why, for any old thing." said Baden-Powell.
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Eli
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All though the original reason for the creation of this thread is beyond belief horrifying, the response to this occurrence has indeed been an insight
into the best of what humanekind offer each other.
Some real heroes have shown their value to us all. Of course Ron & Christina are for runners in heroism for their effort to look after their
neighborhood, and from that gesture, (all though it put them in harms way of some of the worst sort of souls), all else that has happened is born
positive full on heroism from those who know and love them. I am only an observer from far, far away who could offer nothing more than a prayer, but
in the end has been rewarded with a story of great hope for humanity.
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KASHEYDOG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
Some Nomad friends have said privately that they have kept the matter very quiet with their families because they don't want to alarm them to the
dangers down here. I respect that but the other side of that coin is that this place is peopled by frontier types who help each other when things go
wrong.
For every cultural clash there exists thousands of intercultural displays of affection and kindness -- this whole exercise has been an ongoing symbol
of that spirit. While we watch and wonder while fear keeps others NOB let's hope this event will not diminish our love of the place and it's people.
Over the next few months I expect to see an inordinate number of posts about Bear Mace and Flare Guns. Hope they are offset by trip reports of fun
loving travelers enjoying the place as they always have. |
Well said. |
I agree. Very well said.. .. ..
I for one have always lived my life in the spirit the "frontier". Much like Ron, I'm always willing to pitch in and help whenever and wherever I can.
It's just the way I think we should all live our lives. However, in that same spirit of the "frontier" the lesson to be learned from this tragic event
is one I think many of us have forgotten and become complacent about. If you think there's something going on that's wrong and you're going to check
it out don't go with out the "necessary" tools". When we try to "defend" our neighbors, our property, lives or family we put ourselves in the role of
a policeman. You better respond to the situation as if you were one and bring the proper tools. The situation may not always prove to be as simple as
telling the criminals to stop and leave the area. In the future be prepared for the worst and hope you get by with the least. Doing so may save your
life and the lives of you loved ones.
You don't have to agree or disagree, it's just my way. But know if you need to call me for help I will be there. Ready, willing and
ABLE.for whatever the job is even just to pull you out of the ditch or for you Dennis, get you a beer.. ....
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience.....  ....  ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ?? 
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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KASHEYDOG
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BTW Dennis. I'll be down there Wednesday and Thursday. Need a beer ..
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience..... .... ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ??
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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BajaGringo
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While I have still to read through many pages of this thread I continue to be overwhelmed at the outpouring of support, from the Nomad community and
beyond.
Responding to "unusual" inactivity at a neighbors ( unarmed and without dogs) last Saturday I was "greeted" by three subjects, two of which were known
to me. After an "escalating" exchange I was stabbed, beaten and left for dead.
What my wife did next was nothing less than heroic, coming to the aid of her husband and following victim to the same, senseless violence.
Neighbors and friends responding, picking up my bloody, lifeless body and taking into their care Cristina. While they transported us to emergency care
they assisted police in hunting down the perpetrators.
The care given us over the following days was no less spectacular and by Wednesday I had awoken from a coma. Surgery was performed Thursday to wire my
jaw shut. Their attention for my care shifted from my primary wounds to my blood pressure. ( yeah, I know)
Cristina continued to improve in the care of family and outcare and today we both stand "freed" from a week of hell.
Many thanks go out to Sirena, Fernando, Gene, Reyes, Chava, family / friends, doctors / nurses and countless Nomads who have followed and contributed
to our ordeal. A very special thanks goes out to Discover Baja Travel Club.
For now we would ask that you respect our need for healing / recovery in the coming days.
[Edited on 12-10-2020 by BajaGringo]
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Brian L
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Does anyone know why Ron and Cristina were attacked so viciously? What were the guys up to? Why resort to such violence if they were just robbing a
home? Why were they all wearing soccer jerseys (noticed that for some reason when seeing their pictures)? KasheyDogs post above makes me wonder if
Ron was armed somewhat (maybe not enough) and was jumped because of it...
Brian
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woody with a view
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get well, bud!
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shari
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OH man...this is a huge WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!! OH Ron, you have no idea how happy it makes me to see your silly avatar gracing the forum. I didnt
think we'd see your mug for a few more days but kinda knew you would be itching to get online....thanks so much for posting even in your less than
perfect condition...my heart is absolutely bursting with joy to hear from you....much love and support....tu amiga...s
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Katiejay99
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Ron - how fantastic to see you online! One of these times that I head North again, I'll stop in so we can sit down and share one of those Cadillac
Margaritas! Take good care and try not to overdo it.
[Edited on 9-18-2011 by Katiejay99]
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Udo
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Ron:
It brought tears to my eyes to see you personally post as part of this thread.
I am overjoyed that you are feeling well enough to do your own posting. Hopefully you and Christina will be well enough to receive visitors soon!
Udo
Youth is wasted on the young!
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
For now we would ask that you respect our need for healing / recovery in the coming days. |
I personaly feel very blessed to have been able to be there and I know you both will be totaly well very soon.
Saludos mi amigo.
Fernando
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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KASHEYDOG
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WOW
Wonderful to hear from you, Ron. I was hoping to come see you if you're up for visitors this Thursday. I haven't figured out where you are yet. If
you're not up for it yet I certainly would understand. Dick
[Edited on 9-18-11 by KASHEYDOG]
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience..... .... ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ??
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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