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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 01:26 PM


Was the hubcap missing when he left on his trip?
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 01:26 PM


What if...
Dead battery...maybe not so new, maybe many engine starts between digging with little run time to recharge battery, very hot weather hard on the battery.
Locked doors...power locks? A very weak battery will still operate locks. Vehicle with power locks and dead battery is much harder to get into than weak battery that will work locks but not crank the engine.
Maybe it wouldn't start anymore, stuck, gathered water and started walking for help.

My biggest queston is where was he/4 Runner since September?

He has not been found near the site or along the roadways that he may have walked out on. I would think the ranchers of the area would have checked on anything foul in the area.

It being much cooler to travel on foot after sundown and partiers traveling these roads???
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 01:38 PM


azucena... that is a spare tire.



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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 01:46 PM


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and if he was injured etc in some way he would have been more vulnerable to being taken advantage of by someone of the human species.


Or offered help. :light:




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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 01:50 PM


I imagine ranchers who run stock in lion country, are always looking for signs. And I would think, most times when a lion is in the area, the ranchers know.
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 02:20 PM


Mileage information just learned from family:

CAR SERVICED IN CALIFORNIA ON 08/28/2013-MILES: 158,756

MILEAGE TAKEN AT THE CATAVINA IMPOUND YARD: 159,489

TOTAL MILES AFTER SERVICE: 733

MILES TO SAN QUINTIN FROM WESTMINISTER CALIFORNIA: 445

288 MILES UNACCOUNTED FOR

Gary also drove the vehicle in California for 6 days prior to his trip.
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 02:23 PM


The truck has two new stickers on the back window, different from the original photo. Are they from somewhere in Baja?

The truck looks cleaner after sitting out in the desert for 6 months than our truck looks after sitting inside a garage for 6 months....
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 02:29 PM


IT It had rained prior to these photos taken but still there is no mud around the rear tires on the body itself.

I will ask about the stickers. Good eye Latina!
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 02:38 PM


another meaningless observation but curious, if you notice his surfboard fits completely inside the 4runner with the back window completely closed, these cars will accommodate a 10 foot board, yet when found the back window was partially down? also anyone recognize the new decals latina pointed out? they could be a clue


oops I see you already addressed the decals.

[Edited on 4-6-2014 by willardguy]
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 02:43 PM


Yep, surfboard fits inside and the rancher told me it was wrapped with a towel in the area where the back window and the surfboard met and was sticking out.

Sticker information coming. Just sent them an email.
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 02:44 PM


funny thing about driving down a dusty dirt road with the rear window open is you soon become engulfed in swirling dust inside the car.



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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 02:44 PM


Right decal looks like a Hendrix sticker.



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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 02:44 PM


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The truck has two new stickers on the back window, different from the original photo.


Three.....duplicated on each side = six.
So...Gary likes stickers.



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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 02:50 PM


As far as the mileage: Subtract another 50 miles for the ride to the spot where the 4 Runner was found from the highway that makes it a total of 238 miles unaccounted for.

[Edited on 4-6-2014 by lizard lips]
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 02:53 PM


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As far as the mileage: Subtract another 50 miles for the ride to the spot where the 4 Runner was found from the highway that makes it a total of 238 miles unaccounted for.

[Edited on 4-6-2014 by lizard lips]


and San Q to Catavina turnoff.........100 miles?

[Edited on 4-6-2014 by Ateo]




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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 02:55 PM


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The truck has two new stickers on the back window, different from the original photo. Are they from somewhere in Baja?

The truck looks cleaner after sitting out in the desert for 6 months than our truck looks after sitting inside a garage for 6 months....


Latina, I just wanted to say that your attention to detail, and powers of observation are incredible! Way to go! You're a great asset to the search!




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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 02:56 PM


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As far as the mileage: Subtract another 50 miles for the ride to the spot where the 4 Runner was found from the highway that makes it a total of 238 miles unaccounted for.

[Edited on 4-6-2014 by lizard lips]




Quote:
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Gary also drove the vehicle in California for 6 days prior to his trip.



Quote:
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and San Q to Catavina turnoff.........100 miles?




Rapidly closing the mileage gap.




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[Edited on 4-6-2014 by DENNIS]




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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 03:00 PM
Another clue???


Where and when???

Where is the original tire????.......in the 4Runner, under the car....or?????

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azucena... that is a spare tire.




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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 03:08 PM


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and 100 miles from San Quintin to turnoff from highway. =138 miles unaccounted for.



Gotcha above on edit. Thanks.




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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 03:09 PM


regarding dead battery..........someone check if the cabin light is in the "on" position as well as the steering column headlight "on" switch? Just a thought.


Anyway to resize those photos to make larger?




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