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[*] posted on 5-25-2010 at 10:32 AM


Would it be inappropriate for the US to apply the same rules and standards for citizenship as Mexico requires for a US citizen to become a Mexican Citizen?

Check out California Congressman Tom McClintock's take on the immigration situation.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JDo36xPYgE - 95k
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[*] posted on 5-25-2010 at 11:01 AM


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Would it be inappropriate for the US to apply the same rules and standards for citizenship as Mexico requires for a US citizen to become a Mexican Citizen?


wouldn't it be easier if we just annnexed Mexico and made it 51st state? that way we could all have the same laws, and our southers border would have shorter length needing monitoring; and nomads would ask fewer questions about visas and property ownership, and expat scoflaws would have to register their vehicles.

[Edited on 5-25-2010 by mtgoat666]
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[*] posted on 5-25-2010 at 11:06 AM


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Would it be inappropriate for the US to apply the same rules and standards for citizenship as Mexico requires for a US citizen to become a Mexican Citizen?


wouldn't it be easier if we just annnexed Mexico and made it 51st state? that way we could all have the same laws, and our southers border would have shorter length needing monitoring; and nomads would ask fewer questions about visas and property ownership, and expat scoflaws would have to register their vehicles.

[Edited on 5-25-2010 by mtgoat666]


Even better, make it the 105th state of the global banking kingdom of King William the global leader of the monarchy and king of all slaves. Long live the King!
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[*] posted on 5-25-2010 at 11:20 AM


And then they become incoherent!:lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 5-25-2010 at 12:53 PM


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wouldn't it be easier if we just annnexed Mexico and made it 51st state? that way we could all have the same laws, and our southers border would have shorter length needing monitoring; and nomads would ask fewer questions about visas and property ownership, and expat scoflaws would have to register their vehicles.

[Edited on 5-25-2010 by mtgoat666]



Before or after Puerto Rico? :lol:

Crazy as it sounds, the idea about truncating the Southern border actually makes sense.
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[*] posted on 5-25-2010 at 04:11 PM
Looney Tunes Ideas Never Die


Although I have to admit that Dumb Idea hasn't surfaced for awhile.
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[*] posted on 5-25-2010 at 04:25 PM


The US has announced that national guard troops will be sent to the border to assist the fed, state, and local authorities. :biggrin:
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[*] posted on 5-25-2010 at 04:31 PM


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Crazy as it sounds, the idea about truncating the Southern border actually makes sense.


"truncating"----the act of cutting off. So, you advocate the "cutting off" of the southern border, or do you mean cutting off "at" the southern border? That would leave either Mexico to just drift off, or North America north of the Mexican border to drift off. Not clear to me what you are accomplishing here, but it would make the border very difficult to cross, I will admit. Problem solved?? :P :lol:

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[*] posted on 5-25-2010 at 05:43 PM


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The US has announced that national guard troops will be sent to the border to assist the fed, state, and local authorities. :biggrin:


Obama authorized 1,200 troops and has asked Congess for an additional 1/2 billion dollars for strengthening the border.




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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 08:47 AM
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Whether or not this is simply a pander of less substance that it even appears, will become apparent soon enough.

In deploying 1/5 the Guard troops that GWB deployed, it has been said already that they're basically supplying clerical help. Arguments can be made that they WILL provide some help by freeing up other "Enforcement" personnel, but time and further information will tell us what is happening other than politics.
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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 09:09 AM


This would not be happening if not for the AZ law!!!!!!!


In business it is called management by reaction.
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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 02:44 PM


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The US has announced that national guard troops will be sent to the border to assist the fed, state, and local authorities. :biggrin:


Obama authorized 1,200 troops and has asked Congess for an additional 1/2 billion dollars for strengthening the border.





CBP already has 3 Predator B model UAV's and one ground control station at a cost of $12.5 million on the Arizona border.




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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 03:07 PM


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The US has announced that national guard troops will be sent to the border to assist the fed, state, and local authorities. :biggrin:


Obama authorized 1,200 troops and has asked Congess for an additional 1/2 billion dollars for strengthening the border.





CBP already has 3 Predator B model UAV's and one ground control station at a cost of $12.5 million on the Arizona border.


Those things are cool, I have a buddy who flies missions in Iraq and Afghanistan from a Navy facility in Patuxent River, Maryland. A day at the office.




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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 03:13 PM


BTW, the new troops at the border are for the War on Drugs, not the War on Illegals. Shhhh, don't tell the zonies.



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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 03:40 PM
And...


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BTW, the new troops at the border are for the War on Drugs, not the War on Illegals. Shhhh, don't tell the zonies.


They are to be used for logistical support and surveillance. What's your best guess as to whether they'll be locked and loaded? ;D




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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 03:45 PM


I don't know where I stand on this issue. After finishing with Mexican Imigration after 15 years, I know it from the other side too. I still can't own property in my own name in Mexico in the forbidden zone. Any Mexican illegal who has the money can buy property in the US right now from the get go. I think this is unfair. What the US should really worry about is that the going could get a lot worse in Mexico violence wise. A very large percentage of the Mexican population is prone to mischief. If it does 30% of the Mexican population could try and succeed in crossing the border as refugees. These would be the smart - ambitous segment of society; people with money. The people with passports would cross and just stay forever. 75 million people. They would leave Mexico with an even more depleted gene pool. Only women and the zombies will be left to re-populate the Republica is some sort of Stone Age atmosphere. But who really cares that much about any of this. Most Americans spend their time thinking about beating an electronic slot machine. They don't want to work. They shouldn't worry so much about the risk of losing their trailers and their SSI checks to a bunch of Mexicans who really can get America's job done. LOL



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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 03:47 PM
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No Lock and Loaded Weekend Warriors.

Clerical, Logistical support staff no different from GWB's effort.

Except, of course, his was 6,000. This is 1,200.

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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 03:53 PM
Yep


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No Lock and Loaded Weekend Warriors.


And the cartels know this. I wouldn't be surprised if they use the Guard for target practice. :rolleyes:




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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 04:05 PM
Whoa!


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A very large percentage of the Mexican population is prone to mischief. Most Americans spend their time thinking about beating an electronic slot machine. They don't want to work. They shouldn't worry so much about the risk of losing their trailers and their SSI checks to a bunch of Mexicans who really can get America's job done. LOL


LOL, maybe. But, probably not. I cannot help thinking that you are both profiling and stereotyping both Mexicans and US citizens quite unfairly. Your post is really not helpful to the debate.
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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 04:07 PM


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No Lock and Loaded Weekend Warriors.

Clerical, Logistical support staff no different from GWB's effort.

Except, of course, his was 6,000. This is 1,200.

Perfume on the Pig.


Would anyone ever expect anything but criticism of the present administration to emanate from that rusty old single-wide?:fire:
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