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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 06:25 PM


I have been following this thread from the beginning but guess I missed something. I don't know Dennis but in general I have found his posts helpful. Some posters are more direct than others.
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 06:25 PM


Dennis is more than direct....he's express!!
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 06:28 PM


This has been a really long ordeal. My thoughts are with the family and yes, they have been amazing. We are closer to closure and I am sure none of us will rest til then. Many have indeed gone above and beyond the call of duty......and this has been an incredible resource.

Baja is rugged. We must always bear that in mind for sure have a Plan B and even C.





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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 06:36 PM


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5. Several Baja Nomads should feel really embarrassed. I am personally sickened at your behaviors in this thread. Dennis is the number one person and Bubba is a close second. You should take a deep inward look.



I would have to stick my head in a similar place as yours for a deep, inward look and I'm disinclined to do that.
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 06:38 PM


You are not a good person.
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 07:17 PM


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Also of course we MUST go to the beach and contact others in the area for their observations.


See, this is what's really grating me. That some form of authority hasnt done this yet. Now, it probably wont occur until after Semana Santa. So, that's an additional two weeks.

Memories fade............people move on, especially surfers.

There is unnecessary foot-dragging going on here, IMO.
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 07:30 PM


I think that Lizard Lips didn't get involved publicly because he didn't have the OK of the family. That is pretty obvious because now since the family gave their ok Lizard is now fully complying and sharing important information. The family needs to get down to Baja and start a full-fledged investigation and get totally involved in the area of Gary's disappearance. To have the family up in California and the Nomads down in the vicinity just won't work. Semana Santa perhaps is now the time to make it or break it.
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 08:11 PM


No Janene that isn't correct. The family has been cool with whatever I wanted to do however I informed them of what I was planning. All of the information coming forward recently has been posted immediately except for the rancher and that end of it. Prior to putting anything on the Nomad board I wanted to confirm prior to posting. Confirmation is the only way to go forward and that I held back was just something I needed to do before I mentioned anything. I didn't want anyone to get the wrong information and I didn't want to post wrong information. Having the family come down in early May is what they are planning. They cannot do it sooner. Hopefully before they do come down we may obtain a police report as well as the Ministerio Publico Investigation report so we can see exactly what has been done since the missing person notification was issued and they started their investigation. I won't even speculate what the authorities in San Quintin or Catavina have done until I have proof before me. After a review then we can go forward and do what needs to be done.
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 08:17 PM


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You are not a good person.


Don't be too quick to judge. Dennis ask the hard questions sometimes or may question something, but he is a straight shooter.
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 08:21 PM


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You are not a good person.


Don't be too quick to judge. Dennis ask the hard questions sometimes or may question something, but he is a straight shooter.


Totally agree with TW !!




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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 08:28 PM


Thanks Lizard. SO happy the family is coming. Hopefully it can be a combined search with Nomads in the area and family.
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 09:15 PM


Read the thread guys. Read the thread. If it doesn't make you angry I'd be surprised. If I was a family member I'd be just beside myself with the behavior of several nomads in this thread.

I'm all for "tough questions." That's not what this is about.
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[*] posted on 4-6-2014 at 09:54 PM


There were a lot of BS comments that really served no useful purpose other than to upset the family. If you think the ones you read were bad you didn't want to read the ones that were deleted soon after being posted. Very sad. Unfortunately that's the reality of forums.
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[*] posted on 4-7-2014 at 08:19 AM


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There were a lot of BS comments that really served no useful purpose other than to upset the family. If you think the ones you read were bad you didn't want to read the ones that were deleted soon after being posted. Very sad. Unfortunately that's the reality of forums.
lose the delete option, like a text or an email, either defend it or apologize. folks will start thinking twice before hitting the send button?

[Edited on 4-7-2014 by willardguy]
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[*] posted on 4-7-2014 at 08:38 AM


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Quote:
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There were a lot of BS comments that really served no useful purpose other than to upset the family. If you think the ones you read were bad you didn't want to read the ones that were deleted soon after being posted. Very sad. Unfortunately that's the reality of forums.
lose the delete option, like a text or an email, either defend it or apologize. folks will start thinking twice before hitting the send button?

[Edited on 4-7-2014 by willardguy]


Good idea --- but if anyone wants the entire thread or a page before someone deletes things, one can save the printable version to their own computer ---sometimes a very good idea!

Sincerely hoping that soon Lizard Lips and the family will have more answers. Considering his experience, the family is fortunate to have Lizard Lips continuing to search.
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[*] posted on 4-7-2014 at 08:48 AM


TAKE THE CATFIGHTS OUTSIDE!!!
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[*] posted on 4-7-2014 at 09:31 AM


I thought I'd jump in with an observation. I apologies if it has already been covered...In regards to the rear window being cracked and the surfboard sticking out, why would he travel with it this way when the photo indicates that it will fit inside with the window closed. Maybe someone needed to make space for a passenger?



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[*] posted on 4-7-2014 at 10:22 AM


I really can't figure out the rear window situation and why the surfboard was sticking out when the 4 Runner was discovered and then secured in the photo at the PD impound lot. More maybes.

As far as the deletion of post are concerned at this point in time the family can handle anything that is written and I want to see whats posted as well the sensitive posts or what some say were disgusting. Leave them all here.

It was a good day yesterday with all the posts and I even had the Patton crew send me the u2u's that were sent to them which were very positive and productive.

As I mentioned you all know everything so far and there is no hidden agenda as far as myself or the Pattons are concerned. Anytime something new is learned it will be posted, good or bad, and you will be kept informed.
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[*] posted on 4-7-2014 at 10:47 AM


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My quote box function is not working, so you will need to go to the first post on this thread. Blanca, reporting for the family and describing Gary, posts that another cause for concern was that Gary had recently begun to drink a little and that alcohol in combination with his meds did not work well for him. She points out that we do not know if he continued to drink.

But if he did, that might account for impaired judgement.

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There is also the fact in this thread or in another place, because this story is all over the internet besides "Baja Nomad" it said Gary might have had a falling out with the family, my not have wanted to be found, and had plenty of money with him. Gary might also be known by another alias name, from what a brief search of the internet shows.

Maybe it's none of "Baja Nomad" members business, because most of us aren't even involved here, but are only speculating. and perhaps praying for Gary. But we don't know what Gary's frame of mind was when he disappeared, and if he suffered from any mental impairment, and if so, was it serious or minor. I think this is a very important detail that we don't know about, and at the very least the search party should know about.

A few things don't seem rational to me, like getting stuck in the mud, but leaving the keys in the SUV but locking the 4-Runner, so when you do find help you locked herself out of the SUV, and even if he had a spare keys, why leave it, and take a chance somebody will come by dig the SUV out of the dirt, and steal it, or steal the contents of the vehicle. So who even knows who was behind the wheel when the 4-runner got stuck in the mud.

I had a 4-Runner years ago, and even took it all the way to Cabo, and they are very reliable vehicles, and the battery should have been good for at lease a couple of weeks, or it should have been very easy to jump start if the battery was dead.

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[*] posted on 4-7-2014 at 11:08 AM


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I really can't figure out the rear window situation and why the surfboard was sticking out when the 4 Runner was discovered and then secured in the photo at the PD impound lot.



I'm just curious and the question is meaningless, but the foto shows what would be called a luggage rack on the 4-Runner. Would he have tied his board to that, or traveled with his board in the car?




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