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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Got about 60,000 miles on the Tacoma with BFG M/T tires. They went everywhere but were unbelievably noisey. Had them replaced with Michelin AT/2 tires
from costco and now I can actually hear the engine. Did some 4WD driving so far but nothing serious. I'm expecting more than 60,000 miles on the
Michelins. I don't think I could afford to replace tires every 25,000 miles. |
Thanks for the report... BFGs and Michelins are expensive (and French) and I am sure you get more miles for the more money... The Toyos were very
resonable as are the ATR Coopers I have now.
Please let us know as you use them how they work in Baja...
Thanks!
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I am seriously considering the BFG MT/KM2. This is a new, redesigned tire, not the BFG MT/KM. I ran the MT/KM for a short while, but I could not
stand the road noise, the rough ride, nor the weak sidewalls.
I have run Interco TrXus MT tires for 90,000 miles, and I am happy with them, except they are difficult to balance. For the money I am spending, at
least my tire can balance. Toyo's and Nitto's for example are among the very best in balanceability.
BFGoodrich tires are made in France? That's dumb. Who cares? I've been to France, and I actually enjoyed myself in that country. To each his own,
IMO. 
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David K
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No Ken, Michilin is a French company and they own BFG... No longer a big deal... but a few years ago, the French government was very anti-American.
That has since changed with the ousting of the socialist and the new conservative leadership.
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Wow, this is one old thread. However I'll chime in. The tires I've had the most experience with and are worth mentioning in my opinion are the BFG
AT KO, BFG M/T, Toyo Open Country A/T and Toyo Open Country M/T. I've used all these tires on 4x4s and off-road buggies, both north and south of the
border. For me, its the Toyo Open Country M/T hands down. The Toyo AT works well (very quiet), but nearly stuck in the sand last year with a
Landcruiser (with diffs locked even) trying to get to our palapa. Not as puncture resistent either (east Cape road near Cabo Pulmo). The BFG M/T
works very well on the rear of a buggy, but not such a great tire if you're going to be doing any daily on-road driving. I don't care for the hard
shoulder either. The BFG KO is good for daily on-road and somewhat ok off-road, but the tread doesn't lend itself to lots of sand work (although a
guy with them on his buggy last year with us didn't have many problems in the arroyos). There are plenty others out there and my opinion is just
that, my opinion. However, I've read many a good review on the Toyos. Downside is noise/roughness on pavement at low speed. I've had horrible luck
with Bridgestone, Firestone and Good Year. I've had marginal luck with Michelin (but more bad than good). I like Yokohama a lot, but not on a 4x4
(unless you're going old-school Jeep then their 7.00x15 is outstanding). Yokes are great buggy tires, but their Super Diggers don't last long enough
me me out back (I love their 7.00x15 for my fronts). For a 4x4, I say Toyo M/T baby!
You gonna eat that?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
No Ken, Michilin is a French company and they own BFG... No longer a big deal... but a few years ago, the French government was very anti-American.
That has since changed with the ousting of the socialist and the new conservative leadership. |
Hindsight is 20/20. I guess the US now agrees with French opposition to invading Iraq, as the US military now buys all of their tires from my
favorite socialists:
January 2007
WASHINGTON (AFP) — French tire maker Michelin won an exclusive contract worth 1.7 billion dollars to supply every branch of the US military.
Michelin said it had won the 10-year contract to supply every tire needed by the US army, navy, air force and Marines around the world.
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p.s. I love France. Great place, wish it were closer so I could visit more often.
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Yes we can!
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I don't think the French have changed their minds about George W and Comandante Cheney. Glad to see that Fox news has changed its opinion on the
French and thus the loyal followers are doing so as well. DK-when did Fox put the edict out that it was okay to like the French again?
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Ken Cooke
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I was always suspect of Norte Americano's turning against others because of opposition to the war. We have done that against Japanese-Americans
during WWII, and their treatment was terrible. My paternal Grandmother is mostly Cherokee, and we know the US Gov't's position of ethnic cleansing of
Native Americans. I just had to get that off of my chest.
As for tires, I have been reading that the BFGoodrich MT/KM2 requires very little weight to balance. My Interco TrXus MT is quite a different story.
I'm going with the improved BFGoodrich MT/KM2. Plus, it is priced cheaper than the 35" TrXus MT.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
I don't think the French have changed their minds about George W and Comandante Cheney. Glad to see that Fox news has changed its opinion on the
French and thus the loyal followers are doing so as well. DK-when did Fox put the edict out that it was okay to like the French again?
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the french first lady is hot! need you any better reason?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
No Ken, Michilin is a French company and they own BFG... No longer a big deal... but a few years ago, the French government was very anti-American.
That has since changed with the ousting of the socialist and the new conservative leadership. |
Hindsight is 20/20. I guess the US now agrees with French opposition to invading Iraq, as the US military now buys all of their tires from my
favorite socialists:
January 2007
WASHINGTON (AFP) — French tire maker Michelin won an exclusive contract worth 1.7 billion dollars to supply every branch of the US military.
Michelin said it had won the 10-year contract to supply every tire needed by the US army, navy, air force and Marines around the world.
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p.s. I love France. Great place, wish it were closer so I could visit more often.
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Now see. If we would just quit believing in Global warming, whales going south, and that Obama really won the election we would have awarded that
contract to Cooper Tires.
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David K
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Fox News as well as any American (who loves personal freedom over government power) likes the new French president. What CNN/ CBS/ MSNBC didn't tell
you guys is the French got rid of their socialist leader and replaced him with a good conservative who will be better for the people of France (the
ones who want to work that is)...
Now, back to tires... I just replaced the TOYO Open Country A/T with Coopers because of the very LOW mileage of the Toyos... They were otherwise good,
fine in sand, quiet, no flats... But, only 25,000 miles.
The people at Express Tires tell me the Cooper (50,000 mile tire) will give me more... It was the Cooper Discoverer STT that lasted the longest
(35,000) of any of my previous tires... It look like the Toyo M/T... but way too noisey and terrible in the sand.
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norte
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Fox News as well as any American (who loves personal freedom over government power) l |
What a crock of sheite. Take it somewhere else. This is supposed to be a Baja board as you so aptly remind people when you disagree with them.
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David K
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This is my tire thread, and I answered Ken why I didn't buy BFG as it is the most popular Baja tire... that is my answer... All the lefties can't
stand a little opinion from the other side and JUMP at the opportunety to take a bite.
We should all have the right to personal freedom of opinion/ speech...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
This is my tire thread, and I answered Ken why I didn't buy BFG as it is the most popular Baja tire... that is my answer... All the lefties can't
stand a little opinion from the other side and JUMP at the opportunety to take a bite.
We should all have the right to personal freedom of opinion/ speech... |
And I should be able to post my political sheite right along with my tire opinions!!!!!!!!!!
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norte
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DK what makes you think it is only Lefties that bite?
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David K
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Because we conservatives love people!
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Makes about as much sense as your take on global warming. Hope you have better luck on your tires
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Because we conservatives love people! |
I could give a number of examples to the contrary!
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My tires are apolitical and they get the government they deserve.
You gonna eat that?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
This is my tire thread, and I answered Ken why I didn't buy BFG as it is the most popular Baja tire... |
so you bought the japanese made tire to support the enslaved chinese worker, rather than buying the french tire made in Illinois because a few pennies
may have found their way back to a socialist french lady??? and is the petroleum base in your tire from indonesia, venezuela, or texas? you really
should have bought the tire made from mexican or californian oil!!!
and the steel belt, was it USA steel or south korean?
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
This is my tire thread, and I answered Ken why I didn't buy BFG as it is the most popular Baja tire... |
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really should have bought the tire made from mexican or californian oil!!!
and the steel belt, was it USA steel or south korean? |
My TrXus MT was made originally in Mexico. But due to quality control issues, is now made in the USA.
DAVID -- I can't believe you only got 25,000 miles out of your Toyo tires. THAT IS UNBELIEVEABLE! With a harder tread compound, you might encounter
chunking from your driving on rough surfaces. Do keep that in mind if your tires start to spit out chunks of rubber. As for politics, I try to stay
apolitical because it drives a wedge between people. Its like religion.
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