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monoloco
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I wish all the illegal aliens would just leave Arizona so we could see their ag industry fail, restaurants with nobody to work the kitchens, and fat
yuppies mowing their own yards.
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oldlady
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
No, and that's a good thing because Mexican immigration law requires that I carry them. 
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US law is the same. Non-citizens are required to carry their immigration documents, visa, "green card" etc.
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaboyNo, they ask you for the other papers in your wallet |
Only lazy people pay mordita. There is no "requirement" that you pay.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
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I read the actual law directly from the Arizona gov, and its obvious lawyers where very careful to use wording that would not technically get the
state in trouble, but in reality, allow cops to stop anybody at any time. |
In reality, any cop, anywhere can stop anyone at any time...
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In reality, that doesn't happen very often, and even less, do they ask you for papers proving your immigration status. |
No, they ask you for the other papers in your wallet |
True, but it has nothing to do with race.
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rts551
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Dave. Not neccisarily true. read the law. says proof of citizenship. They haven't decided what that means
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
and even less, do they ask you for papers proving your immigration status. |
No, and that's a good thing because Mexican immigration law requires that I carry them.
BTW, they usually do ask for a drivers license which just happens to be all that's needed to prove compliance with Arizona's
new law. |
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jeremias
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New immigration law
Anybody think the new immigration legislation will create any sort of backlash on U.S citizens traveling or living in Mexico? Just a thought.
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rts551
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You hit it on the head. Racist. "mex law" "f them"
Mike. do us a favor and stay the H out of Mexico. We did not take it during the war and we will not take it now
| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
this just rec'd from a good friend from CA and NV (dual state citizenship...) who has DONATED thousands of $$$s and hours with the Flying Sams since
the 60s...
"maybe not but true hahaahaha you boys in az are in the news all over about your new mex law hahahaha cracks me up the president of mex does
not like the law you and me have to have visas flight plans , landing fees and entry permits and they get mad if you ask for a paper F them
ahhahhha"
another whack job? i think not. most here couldn't carry his briefcase...
F them indeed.... |
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capt. mike
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hahahaha.....not if you have enuff $$$$$$$$$.
don't sweat it man.
tell you what - i am headed south May 7-9.
i'll let you know how i am treated...
oh - and ...i do it legally!! i stop, pay $24 for my visa....yada yada yada...
oh and also - i am taking 3 medical pros to DONATE free medical care to a village with almost ZERO care until WE arrive...
why - because i love those people and i CAN help.
plus i like to drink great margs...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jeremias
Anybody think the new immigration legislation will create any sort of backlash on U.S citizens traveling or living in Mexico? Just a thought.
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Depends on how far they go with it in Arizona. Calderon has already issued a travel advisory for Mexicans in Arizona.
If I were the governor of AZ., I'd be rounding up the National Guard.
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capt. mike
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haha. no boycott will ever happen here.
we have too many great amenities. like golf, bars, maids and waiters and schitt.
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Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
hahahaha.....not if you have enuff $$$$$$$$$.
don't sweat it man.
tell you what - i am headed south May 7-9.
i'll let you know how i am treated...
oh - and ...i do it legally!! i stop, pay $24 for my visa....yada yada yada...
oh and also - i am taking 3 medical pros to DONATE free medical care to a village with almost ZERO care until WE arrive...
why - because i love those people and i CAN help.
plus i like to drink great margs... |
Please let us know where you are going.
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jeremias
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
hahahaha.....not if you have enuff $$$$$$$$$.
don't sweat it man.
tell you what - i am headed south May 7-9.
i'll let you know how i am treated...
oh - and ...i do it legally!! i stop, pay $24 for my visa....yada yada yada...
oh and also - i am taking 3 medical pros to DONATE free medical care to a village with almost ZERO care until WE arrive...
why - because i love those people and i CAN help.
plus i like to drink great margs... |
bringing doctors, nobody is screwing with you! I;m headed a bit past Ensenada this weekend, so I will see. But I'm pretty low profile anyways. I might
have to get some appropriate bumper stickers maybe. l
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Dave
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I have read it...
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Dave. Not neccisarily true. read the law. says proof of citizenship. They haven't decided what that means
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So should you.
A person is presumed to not be an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States if the person provides to the law
enforcement officer or agency any of the following:
1. A valid Arizona driver license.
2. A valid Arizona nonoperating identification license.
3. A valid tribal enrollment card or other form of tribal identification.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Dave. Not neccisarily true. read the law. says proof of citizenship. They haven't decided what that means
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So should you.
A person is presumed to not be an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States if the person provides to the law
enforcement officer or agency any of the following:
1. A valid Arizona driver license.
2. A valid Arizona nonoperating identification license.
3. A valid tribal enrollment card or other form of tribal identification. |
Don't you listen? IT IS NOT ABOUT PROVIDING IDENTIFICATION, its about giving local law enforcement, the power to stop anybody at anytime, simply
because he might be an illegal Mexican. In the rest of the US, i have no problems with checkpoints, airport screenings, even the occasional request
from a Border patrol agent to ask me for my ID. But i will be damn if i visit a place where at anytime, someone can stop me and harras me simply
because i "look" Mexican.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jeremias
Anybody think the new immigration legislation will create any sort of backlash on U.S citizens traveling or living in Mexico? Just a thought.
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Not at all, but Arizona is going to lose a lot of jobs because of this, trust me.
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rts551
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It also says
" The person's immigration status shall be verified with the federal government pursuant to 8 United States code section 1373(c)." Drivers licenses
are not proof of citizenship
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Dave. Not neccisarily true. read the law. says proof of citizenship. They haven't decided what that means
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So should you.
A person is presumed to not be an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States if the person provides to the law
enforcement officer or agency any of the following:
1. A valid Arizona driver license.
2. A valid Arizona nonoperating identification license.
3. A valid tribal enrollment card or other form of tribal identification. |
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Dave
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I'd boycott Arizona too
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
How is the Arizona boycott progressing? |
But I can't find anything I'd suffer without.
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
How is the Arizona boycott progressing? |
But I can't find anything I'd suffer without.
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That is because you live in Kalifornia
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DENNIS
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...I wonder how things will go when AZ decides to control their border.
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rts551
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We have gunslingers signing up already. Round em up and head em out
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
...I wonder how things will go when AZ decides to control their border. |
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