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[*] posted on 9-18-2011 at 03:59 PM


DENNIS, No. You're wrong. It's OK to call it hunting and if the hunting is good, there's some killing. The bear? A grizzly is a mystical animal. He's free to roam, thanks to man, who could have exterminated him. The only self-righteous people are those who don't have a clue about what it's like to walk the same path as the grizzly. But they will never know. Comparing the guy that got killed by the grizzly to your punks is an obscenity. I'm sure you know the term "relativity'.
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[*] posted on 9-18-2011 at 04:45 PM


Stop it, Bobby. I live in gangland.
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[*] posted on 9-18-2011 at 05:09 PM


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[*] posted on 9-18-2011 at 08:06 PM


Being young and STUPID one time years ago a friend and I were on a deer hunt and stumbled on a half barried moose carcass....looking around a bit we seen griz tracks...We decided to come back early in the morning to see the bear...Major stupid

At first light we were there waiting...hidden...DUH !!!

After about 2 hours we got bored and walked down to the carcass for one last look

That's when i heard the first huff

We were between the bear and his/her stash (I didn't ask him/ her if he was a him or her) and he/she wasn't happy

We got away with backing out(grey hair was seen the next day)

That's one time I'm glad I had a 7mm Mag and not a Cannon E500 camera




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[*] posted on 9-18-2011 at 08:33 PM


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That's one time I'm glad I had a 7mm Mag and not a Cannon E500 camera


Why?? Not to many intrepid hunters get the opportunity to record their own grizzly death.
Coulda been a winner on YouTube.
ohhhyeah...you would have needed a few seconds to program your camera to video, but you would probably have, being an avid photographer, given the brute a leg to keep him busy for that much time.

By the way....is there still a market for Bear Skin Rugs? I'll bet Hank Rhon uses them for truck upholstry.
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[*] posted on 9-18-2011 at 08:46 PM


I would never take an animal for a rug

I was to busy hyper-ventilating to take any pics of my own demise from a BIG brown rug :o




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[*] posted on 9-19-2011 at 05:45 AM


Pompano, Thanks. You've captured a lot of memories. About those walleye, a speckled trout(spotted weakfish) is right there with 'em. Never had both species mixed up and cooked together, but doubt if a person would be able to tell 'em apart. They even resemble each other in body structure.
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[*] posted on 9-19-2011 at 08:55 AM


Thanks for the great post on friendship and hunting Roger, I really enjoyed it. I'm certain that there are far more hunters on this board than non hunters, it's just that the non hunters have little else to do than throw stones at others, I feel sorry for them......dt



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[*] posted on 9-19-2011 at 09:13 AM


Thanks for sharing a large part of your "life"... with some super pictures... great places and people .. the plunger is great, hope it puts a smile on Ron's face, as it did mine... it's all good ... :):)

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[*] posted on 9-19-2011 at 12:20 PM


Yep, sure did.. never been.... you showed how... some wide open spaces up there... looking good...



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[*] posted on 9-19-2011 at 12:56 PM


Roger

this has been excellent, well done, really enjoyed your photo essay
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[*] posted on 9-19-2011 at 01:21 PM


Roger,,,,,,I absolutely love your story, very well written ,,,,BRAVO !

I have known Roger for quite sometime and would simply like to express my opinion of him as a friend. Roger has always portrayed a very respectful love affair with nature as long as I have known him. A very kind gent. Have you read his "Golden Grouper" story? I did and it is marvelous !!!!! We are all entitled to our own opinion, and there will always be DARK, LOUD and cynical people with NO MANNERS ,,,,,,,,,ready to stalk their PREY. Thanks for the wonderful read Roger,,,,,it was enjoyed here in Canada. K
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[*] posted on 9-19-2011 at 03:38 PM


mtgoat666, You've convinced me! Throwing away all my hunting and fishing gear. Gonna become a vegan. Will vote for the most liberal candidate in all elections from this point on. Am I forgetting anything?:biggrin:
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rolleyes.gif posted on 9-19-2011 at 04:54 PM


Goat,

You're beating a dead horse.
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[*] posted on 9-19-2011 at 05:10 PM
A Puzzle


Why is it that some of these 'kind' individuals are some of the most belligerent posters on the board?

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[*] posted on 9-19-2011 at 05:21 PM


Roger did you ever hunt dove or fish largemouth at Lake Hidalgo Lodge on the mainland near El Fuerte?



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[*] posted on 9-19-2011 at 07:34 PM


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Roger did you ever hunt dove or fish largemouth at Lake Hidalgo Lodge on the mainland near El Fuerte?


Hi Ken,

Sure did..both several times in the mid-to-late 70's. I took my Silverline bass boat behind my pickup camper from Coyote Bay up to Sta. Rosalia and then across the SOC on the Guaymas ferry. Stayed in Alamos for a couple weeks with a neat gunsmith retired there from California. He had bought this grand old villa that was about 1 block square...the sum of $45,000 US in the late 60's I believe. What a place he made there..paddocks for horses, lots of rooms, patios, verandas, atriums, and a perfect place to ride out from on horseback dove hunts.

We fished for the then newly planted Florida strain of largemouth bass in nearby Lake Hildago....and wore ourselves out catching and releasing double-digit bucketmouths! I remember having to continually be on the lookout for snags and deadheads in the flooded lake.

We hunted ducks...and wild pig..(javelina)... a mangy goat or two...and even Canadian honkers....and flew out of there for desert muleys in Sonora.

I'll search in my photo morgue and see about posting some old Hildago, Alamos, Los Mochis, and other good times in that area of mainland Mexico.

We had some sweet times over there..yes, indeed. Thanks for jogging up some nice memories.

signed: BLOODTHIRSTY KILLER :rolleyes:
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[*] posted on 9-19-2011 at 09:18 PM
THE HUNTING THREAD - CHAPTER 3 - 'THE DUCK HUNT' - "plus some personal stuff"




THE DUCK HUNT.


Yesterday we went duck hunting on the Northern Plains...one of Mother Nature’s maternity wards.




A region of agricultural lands and thousands of pothole sloughs... known as The Duck Factory….and world-renowned for its waterfowl production.

A typical way to hunt ducks in this region is to go out scouting the afternoon before. About 2 hours before sundown is a good time. Naturally, waterfowl will spend the night on water, so position yourself in sight of whatever large slough or marsh is in your hunting area.



A good set of binoculars is a must. Don’t bother with the cheap ones…get some good optics.
Swarovski, Nikon, Bushnell, Pentax, Zeiss, & Steiner are some top mfgrs of fine field binocs.

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Soon, you will see the birds flying out to feed..and usually to the exact same place they fed that morning or the day before.


MOST IMPORTANT…USE GOOD HUNTING MANNERS……ASK FIRST!

Mark the feed, and then seek out the land owner to ask permission to hunt..even if it is not posted. As in all things throughout our lives, it pays to have good manners.


(A trait that unfortunately seems to be missing amongst certain nomad stalker/characters . ;) .. makes me wonder what upbringing they suffered? I feel sorry for their plight…but then, it’s all about who you want to be, isn’t it?…after all, we’ve all have hard times and the choices we make define us.)

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If the landowner you asked permission from would like a good duck dinner, invite him and wife to the Duk Shak..or whatever you call your hunting place. If no dinner, send him a gift along with your heartfelt thanks. In our case, the accommodating landowner was a geography teacher of mine in high school, now retired to a life he loves in the country. Thanks, Myron!

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“We’re burning daylight, Pilgrim.”



Early next morning...like 3 hours before dawn… the boys splash some water on their faces and shake off the sleepiness….

….you have a hearty breakfast and pack a thermos of coffee for the road.

Wait while the boys splash some MORE water on their faces and shake off the sleepiness… again. :rolleyes:

Gear up for the weather, check your gear, gun safes ON, ammo, etc. and hook up the decoy trailer...and drive whatever direction the chosen duck feed is located.





You will want to position your deek spread in the EXACT same place in the feed field as the ducks were in the evening before..this is very important.

Hint: A good sign that you have picked the right spot in the field...is the duck poop you will see in the stubble. :rolleyes:
p.s. I’ll spare you a photo of the poop…but YOU KNOW I have one.. grin.


Factoid: Most everything that flys lands into the wind. So, bearing this fact in mind, position most, but not all, of your deeks facing into the wind. Don't bunch them up in a ball…which will send an alarm signal to arriving waterfowl...but place them in a lazy C-curve or even an U-shape. You want to present a flock feeding at ease and kind of scattered…like they have been feeding here awhile.





Place your shooting blinds placed downwind from the majority of the deeks. Thus, approaching ducks will be directly over you when they set thier wings. But...this is all up to you to experiment with...just saying this has worked for me for many decades.


You can mix duck and goose decoys together...it will make the set look more real and is very effective. Just keep them in their own species group.

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Randy likes to place a pink flamingo decoy in the set…and some other rather weird stuff….but I'm drawing the line at that!

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Motion decoys are a real asset…even a slight wind makes them move and the motion is seen by ducks/geese from a long, long distance.






Flagging with a black flag is good, too. Wave it..and the birds will come.



Forget about flying those decoy kites...while everyone likes flying kites....they're just too much hassle to keep aloft, are too noisy, and the truth is, they tend to spook more birds than they attract.





Okay..now we've set the deeks in a good feed, in a pattern that leaves open a landing area for incoming traffic.


The blinds are set facing downwind and at the downwind end of your set.


One hunter drives the rig out of the field and hidden from sight of the set. (Does not have to be a mile away! This is farming country and waterfowl are very used to seeing all kinds of machines under thier flyways)



Today was my turn to drive the rig away…and I found a good spot to park…Hey, seems to be reserved for me? :rolleyes:




Another OldTimer. In the rig just relaxing, I got spend some quality time with a mighty giant. This grand old prairie dweller has been here a long time, and very likely has had a few thousand bison cool off under its branches…way back in the day.


All good duck hunters..young and old...should own at least 15 duck calls. :yes: Does not matter a hoot if you know how to use those calls....just take a deep breath and blast away. If nothing else, you will get a good laugh out of the racket you and your buddies make in the pre-dawn light.



Seriously, it's easy to use a duck or goose call, so easy that even a caveman can do it. If the flock is a LONG ways away...just put your lips to your call and trying saying this as loud as you can...CAW CAW CAW!... If the ducks turn towards you after that….shut up...you did well …and so now just let them approach the set.





If they don't set thier wings on an incoming landing to your set...and seem to want to circle and circle just out of range...like most mallards do...then get the call out again and say softly, but distinctly...Ticket..ticket..ticket. Ticket...ticket...ticket. That's a good feeding call and imitates the noise ducks make when happily chowing down.




Like these incoming I Nikon-ed from my blind….When the bird's wings are set and they are coming in...Shut Up.


To make your best wingshot at decoyed ducks, let them get into range for your furthest hunting partner...then take them as you are situated per your fellow hunters. That is: If you are the furthest to the left of all the hunters, then take the furthest Left bird..and so on. No sense all of you blazing away at that closest greenhead!

If you are successful and now you have a couple dead ducks on the ground..take a quick look at the horizon to make sure no other flocks are inbound..then gather up any downed birds ...and either make them decoys or put them out of sight..under a goose deek or whatever. Note: A dead mallard with it's feet sticking up in the air amongst your deeks does NOT help your cause. :biggrin:







Now the sun is going down..and it's time to got get the rig while the other guys are gathering the deeks and blinds into a pile. Take a couple of photos of the boys hunting together to enjoy later over dinner.





Congrats on a good hunt...amongst good friends!



Okay, the deeks are back in the trailer, along with ALL THE EMPTY HULLS...shotgun shells...which you, as a responsible hunter, will NOT leave in the stubble for the farmer's equipment to jam up on. An easy thing to do with these coffin blinds is to keep all your hulls, wrappers, etc inside them to take with you when leaving the field. Easy enough to dump them at home later.


Treat the land as if it was YOURS...take any garbage with you when leaving. We get invited back to hunt to many fields..because we care...the landowners realize that..and are our friends.

The drive home is full of good cheer and camraderie...talking about who made the best wingshot..or who made the most misses. Who cracked me up the most with his duckcalling...
Making plans for the next morning's hunt.







The hunt is over, but hunting duties are not. There are ducks to be cleaned and made ready for our dinner tonight. I particularily love Remington Mallards...a recipe my mother contributed to a Ducks Unlimited Cook Book many years ago.


Tonight, however, Munga has the chef's hat on and is making us marinated duck fillets, whitetail deer steaks, hush puppies, Mountain Dew for the boys, and cold brews for the adults. Not too shabby, amigo.

Now that was a FINE DAY of GOOD FELLOWSHIP and GOOD HUNTING.

See ya next time.




[Edited on 9-21-2011 by Pompano]




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[*] posted on 9-20-2011 at 06:41 AM


Mtgoat:

You're a violent man with a non-violant message.

That's not lost on the reader. You're not convincing many here.
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[*] posted on 9-20-2011 at 07:15 AM


You are right Mtgoat. I apologize.

The matter should stand on it's own feet, regardless of the messenger.

Regardless, the PETA zealots turn people off by the very manner in which they go about their business. When the messenger shrieks his opinions into your face it has the opposite effect.

The Church, with it's periods of Lent and fasting, was far more effective in that respect.
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