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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:29 PM


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But what is the Del Carmen Hospital issue? Are they worried about getting paid?




They're probably worried about not getting paid enough. I've heard of people being held prisoner in hospitals here until the bill was paid. Fred Hoctor was one of them.

Anyway....if he can get to TJ, he can get to La Jolla. He's a Vet.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:31 PM


someone has to make the decision to medivac Ron and make the arrangements...really need to talk to "that man" who is with Ron...is Ron's daughter available to make a decision...I assume Ron is unconscious. Someone needs to step up to the plate and quickly make some decisions before it's too late...the hospital most likely wont do anything...need to find out what insurance he has too...but if money is an issue in getting him evacuated stateside, I'm sure we can all come up with that...but all depends if he is stable enough to move as well.



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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:34 PM


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someone has to make the decision to medivac Ron and make the arrangements...really need to talk to "that man" who is with Ron...is Ron's daughter available to make a decision...I assume Ron is unconscious. Someone needs to step up to the plate and quickly make some decisions before it's too late...the hospital most likely wont do anything...need to find out what insurance he has too...but if money is an issue in getting him evacuated stateside, I'm sure we can all come up with that...but all depends if he is stable enough to move as well.



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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:34 PM


One of Adrians friends and co-worker is engaged to the daughter of Sanatorio del Carmen's owners, I've met the family briefly and they seem like decent, nice people who would put a persons life before "getting paid"...

I've never been treated there but as far as I know it is said to be a very good facility with good doctors.
But then...I'm no doctor :)
That being said, I do agree that Ron being treated in the U.S. would be the best case scenario, because of the advanced treatments and diagnostics.

Is there any way to find out if Ron has insurance that would cover a transportation like that??




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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:35 PM


I can't do much with my hands from 4000 miles away..but I will glady give $1000 USD to whoever can get Ron to a US hospital NOW.

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bajaroger@yahoo.com
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I can personally highly recommend Scripps Mercy Hosptal ER at 435 H Street, Chula Vista, Ca. 91910-4307
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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:38 PM


Please add my positive thoughts and energy, so sad.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:38 PM


I am in San Diego and can get family from San Diego to points south on a moments notice. I will be following this thread closely.

Please U2U me if I can be of assistance.


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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:40 PM


Its most likely Chava and his Wife Maria who are with them at Del Carmen.
Chava is a good friend of Ron and Cristina and has been building Rons house for him for the last year or so.
Chava said he had to call someone to get a hold of Rons daughter (who apparently is on her way) but if someone wants to call Chava on his cell perhaps to tell him that its important to get him moved to a better facility asap. Heres Chavas no. 616-105-6936

Christ I hope Rons daughter gets there soon!!!




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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:40 PM


What Ron needs at this moment is a doctor who can bring some light on the subject, but it's Sunday and there are no doctors at Del Carmen at the time.
I can't understand why they dropped him off there.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:45 PM


I've just been informed by our Mexican friends at the Condor station, that in their opinion the best Baja norte hospital is the Los Angeles hospital in Tijuana, but not sure if they have an MRI.



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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:47 PM


Ron 'BajaGringo' (with TW) just over three months ago, at the Mike Younghusband slide show:





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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:49 PM


Ok, I just got off the phone with the woman at the desk in Sanatorio del Carmen, she said that up until now Ron does NOT need a blood transfusion, she did how ever ask that if anyone knows how to contact Ron's family to please please please make their contact info available ASAP, because they can not do anything without the consent of a family member, this is super important because if they were to start a treatment or a surgery without family consent and if something were to go wrong, they would be made liable, it's like that in any hospital for any major surgeries.

They are not being stubborn or greedy, they are simply following rules, as hard as it may be to understand.

She was very nice and told me that he did need medical attention btu that they could not give it to him until they had consent from a family member, so if anyone knows how to contact anyone from his family please u2u me the info so that I can give it to the people at the hospital.

The good news is he is alive so keep the prayers coming!




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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:52 PM


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Can someone in Ensenada check the Velmar Hospital???


I drove to Velmar and he is not there.

[Edited on 9-11-2011 by bacquito]

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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 01:58 PM


OK Rons daughter just posted on facebook a few minutes ago so I posted that it was important for her to contact the hospital ASAP to give consent to treat Ron



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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:01 PM


Thanks astro, do you need the hospital phone number??



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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:02 PM


very good news...good work sirenita...please call Chava 616-105-6936 so you are in the loop...I'm sure he already knows this but in lieu of family member present, there must be a clause where someone else can make a decision to give him the treatment he needs....cristina most likely is more apt to need a blood donor if she lost alot of blood...try to get a cel # for ron's daughter from Chava...
remember...sometimes you have to go out on a limb and make critical decisions fast that arent always popular with the hospital...trust your instincts...try to get Adrian's uncle's opinion or help...this is an extreme emergency and Ron & Cristina need all our energy and input. Sounds like an effort needs to be mounted to move them ASAP either to TJ or Ron to the states if possible so he stands a better chance at recovery....time is of the essence even though it is Sunday.

I once arranged a private airvac myself and it's complicated and alot of phone calls and insisting...i took a chance the guys' medical would pay for it and luckily it did...but he didnt care at the time and was concious so he gave me the green light to arrange it....which I'm sure Ron would too if he is concious....can you find out if he is concious?




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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:04 PM


astro...can you please give ron's daugher sirena's phone # I'll U2U it to ya..she could stay with them too probably.



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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:04 PM


If Ron is ex-Navy as posted on TalkBaja, get him to the Navy Hospital in San Diego where treatment is superior and free. Not sure about spousal coverage.

(info from another board)

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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:07 PM
Los Angeles Hospital in TJ is Excellent


So is Centro Medico Excel

The MRI lab is at a separate facility near both hospitals, and I have undergone two MRI procedures there; here's the contact info:

Imagen Radiological Integral
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Tijuana B.C., Mexico 22300

Mexican Tel: (664) 971-0940
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[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:08 PM


yes please Sirenita I'll post it on Ron FB so that Yessica can see to contact Del Carmen. I also posted Chavas no. on Rons FB for Yessica to see, wish we had her cell no!!!!



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