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Iflyfish
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We are in agreement here for sure. Escalating expectations have played a significant role in the problems we are facing. These escalating expectations
include our belief after WWII that we were invincable and could solve world problems with force i.e. Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan. They also
include the escalated expectations of Wall Street traders, bankers and the Corporate elite that they deserved a larger piece of the pie. Ditto for the
belief that a college education equaled success. Ditto for the notion that everyone could own a home and that serial refinancing was a panacea for all
individual economic problems. Again we agree.
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I am nursing a cold and this has been a very interesting discussion and good way to use the healing time. Thanks to my Nomad friends for engaging in
this interesting dialogue.
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"Iflyfish, All those communist(collectivist systems) you mention? They've failed. I agree. Your point?"
Then we can agree that the current Corporatist system is also failing and that adjustments need to be made.
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I am sorry, now I understand the problem. For the definitions of Logical Fallacies go to the site http://www.skeptically.org/logicalthreads/id12.html and you will find them below the list. The links on my post do not take you to these
definitions but to a definition of Athiesm. Sorry for the confusion.
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A Momentary Digression for Must-See TV
Having just run across this on the Dish Guide, I don't want anyone who might be interested to miss out.
Although I initially thought it might be referencing the NY occupation, the numbers were a bit too high.
Tonight, 6 p.m. Current TV.
"The World's Toilet Crisis".
A documentary on the 2.6 Billion World residents who don't have toilets (or Home Depot obviously).
Even assuming that some would share, there is a sales-opportunity there that could end the Jobs crisis.
I'm setting the DVR.
OK, Back to the other stuff now.
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Iflyfish, No. I do not agree that the current system is failing. The intervention(adjustments as you call it) of the Obama administration into the
free market has created an unnatural situation. Picking and choosing which company to support at tax payers expense isn't free interprise, it's
socialism and cronyism. I condemn the whole concept and the gang that's responsible for it.
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obscene
Found on AFL-CIO’s Executive Paywatch.
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wonder who your congressman thinks about??
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I think the two major political parties in this country have us doing just what they want, debating(putting in nicely) issues among ourselves which
takes our eye off the ball of what really is going on with these low life bottom feeding, lying, good for nothing, cheating, self serving b*st*rds!
JMO 
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Goat------------I can guarantee you that a lot more than "1%" of the American population are "millionairs"---------think about it!!!
Homes owned, investments, IRA's, motorhomes, cars, and just stuff adds up to well over a million for many when considering "net worth".
-------but I get your point.
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Barry A.
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How many "workers" could manage and run an S&P 500 corporation?
They left out the Hollywood crowd, and the sports stars ---------
In a free Country, you get what you're considered you are worth by those that pay you------duh
Way to much obsessing over all this---------
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Strength in Numbers ?
Well, they "could" hire 750 Minimum-Wage CEOs and take a vote on decisions.
If enough Monkeys with Typewriters could produce a Literary masterpiece after enough time, I'm sure they'd come up with something at IBM, etc
eventually.
Wouldn't they ?
I'd hate to be in that Boardroom.
BTW, that Gore-TV "Toilet Crisis" was a LOT of Scheisse.
And, I only watched the first 5 Minutes. Saved it on DVD for another time. Maybe while having Breakfast. If I can stomach Obi in the a.m., I should
be able to handle that.
I did learn you need to watch where you step in India. And, that was in the City. Probably the same around Wall Street right now.
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This should surprise a lot of Conservatives...
Article: Medical help for illegal immigrants could haunt Mitt Romney
link: http://www.latimes.com/health/la-na-romney-healthcare-201110...
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Ken---------that link takes you to the LA TIMES, but not to that particular article you reference. I could not find it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
What is wrong with loaning Chrysler and GM money? They paid the money back, didn't they? 
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No.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/02/business/02gret.html
http://radioviceonline.com/gm-repays-loan-to-us-actually-not...
http://www.edmondsun.com/business/x563631288/Don-t-believe-t...
Not to mention that the U.S. Government still holds significant "equity" in GM, which is currently underwater. For the government to break even, the
stock price needs to go up to $53, and the current value is about $24. This is an old article outlining the loss, but the price they quote is old -
$30.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/govt-looking-to-sell-its-gm-...
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Rick Perry is going to be the nest president of this Country and you had better beleive it! |
Everyone around the world that wants the US to tank is betting he or another republican wins. I on the other hand would like to see the US back on its
feet, and thus the last thing you need is another republican dumb burro in the white house. |
So Obama is a finacial and political genius, huh? Oh lord, help us!!! |
He didn't create the mess, thats for sure. |
He just made it a lot worse.
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OK, Ken, you have to search a little, but I did find it.
Interesting. Mitt is a moderate, so this does not surprise me that much, but yes, it might hurt him with the radical-right. I hope not, tho.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Mitt is a moderate, so this does not surprise me that much, but yes, it might hurt him with the radical-right. |
you mean this radical right??
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No, Goat-----------I don't even understand the point of that cartoon--------marijuana and the Tea Party?????? Don't get the implied
connection???????
More smoke where there is no fire.
Barry
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NO Surprises
Conservatives KNOW what Mitt is and, unlike those who haven't been paying attention, they're not about to be surprised by old news already out there.
Whether his "Last Man Standing" strategy is going to prevail, Quien Sabe ?
It IS on-track exactly where its been all along. He has a solid 25 percent (+/-) as the FIRST choice along with around 35 (+/-) percent as the SECOND
choice. His plan is to be the guy settled on. Should that work, he's cleared the only BIG hurdle. Making it through the Primary cycle. In the
general, Conservatives won't stay home and they won't vote for Obama.
But, we'll know at the end of January.
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