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bajadogs
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
Anything new on that girl found hanging at the mansion on Del Coronado??
cops said suicide others say murder. |
I say people with tons of money get away with murder. Period.
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Skipjack Joe
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A great outpouring of affection here. It's really wonderful to see this.
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pappy
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do we have a motive/reason as to why yet?
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BajaDove
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Over three thousand people hit the beach to surf out and say good-bye to Jr.
If its not where it is, its where it isn\'t.
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sancho
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1090 am San Diego, says an event re; Seau is going
to be held at Chargers Stadium Mission Valley SD
this Fri., 6:30 pm (I believe), free, free parking
I imagine it will be well attended
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The Sculpin
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"Suicide is always an option."
"There really is no reason to live."
This is the rational and logical way to look at things.
The irrational, emotional and selfish way to look at it is:
"Suicide is wrong"
"There's always something to live for"
If someone is in pain, the medical profession provides pain killers. If the pain is beyond any type of relief, death is not allowed? Why let one
person suffer so others can feel good about "relieving their pain" or "helping a friend in need"? And the ones left living have the gall to say "it's
a sign of mental illness"?!?
Sorry, but I have seen too much sensless death to condemn someone for bravely taking their own.....
Whoa there, Cowboy - pull back on those reins!
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Sculpin
A. "Suicide is always an option."
"There really is no reason to live."
B. "Suicide is wrong"
"There's always something to live for"
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Wow. I find myself agreeing with both sides.
Perhaps closer to my belief would be:
"There's always something to live for but suicide is an option"
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Foreseeing your own death is a nightmare nobody should ever have to face before an old and fruitful fulfillment of life. The mind is powerful. It can
outfox itself. It is working when you think it isn't. It can lie to you, sending compelling argument and whispers of futility. Do not ever
underestimate it.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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DENNIS
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Have we buried Junior yet? Soon...I hope.
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Ateo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Have we buried Junior yet? Soon...I hope. |
Yeah, as someone who lives nearby, I'm tired of hearing about it. No offense, but let's get on with life. No one ever lived a single day in the
past. This is my last JR. post.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Sculpin
"Suicide is always an option."
"There really is no reason to live."
This is the rational and logical way to look at things.
The irrational, emotional and selfish way to look at it is:
"Suicide is wrong"
"There's always something to live for"
If someone is in pain, the medical profession provides pain killers. If the pain is beyond any type of relief, death is not allowed? Why let one
person suffer so others can feel good about "relieving their pain" or "helping a friend in need"? And the ones left living have the gall to say "it's
a sign of mental illness"?!?
Sorry, but I have seen too much sensless death to condemn someone for bravely taking their own..... |
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Sculpin , please , I'm not singling you out , but your poignant comment brings to mind some of my own experiences.
In over 30 years in the medical profession , I can tell you there are terminals you can do nothing about.
But the odds to help a fairly young man are in the patients favour.
I have to believe that being tough or stoic may have been his demise.
Someone just didn't didn't dig deep enough into a possible condition or wasn't given the opportunity to do so.
I'd change "bravely" to unfortunately
JMO
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EnsenadaDr
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Suicide...
In the medical profession, we give a suicidal person two options: one is to receive medications and counseling to work through their feelings,and the
other is to act on their feelings. No matter how we feel personally, a patient has a right to make his own decision. And we must respect that
decision. It might make us sad, angry or experience a whole gamut of feelings. But in the end, the person decides how they will handle it. That is
one of the rights of a patient, to decide his own treatment or lack thereof. | Quote: | Originally posted by KaceyJ
| Quote: | Originally posted by The Sculpin
"Suicide is always an option."
"There really is no reason to live."
This is the rational and logical way to look at things.
The irrational, emotional and selfish way to look at it is:
"Suicide is wrong"
"There's always something to live for"
If someone is in pain, the medical profession provides pain killers. If the pain is beyond any type of relief, death is not allowed? Why let one
person suffer so others can feel good about "relieving their pain" or "helping a friend in need"? And the ones left living have the gall to say "it's
a sign of mental illness"?!?
Sorry, but I have seen too much sensless death to condemn someone for bravely taking their own..... |
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Sculpin , please , I'm not singling you out , but your poignant comment brings to mind some of my own experiences.
In over 30 years in the medical profession , I can tell you there are terminals you can do nothing about.
But the odds to help a fairly young man are in the patients favour.
I have to believe that being tough or stoic may have been his demise.
Someone just didn't didn't dig deep enough into a possible condition or wasn't given the opportunity to do so.
I'd change "bravely" to unfortunately
JMO |
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by KaceyJ
I have to believe that being tough or stoic may have been his demise.
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Ohhh well....since this is going nowhere, let me add.....I firmly believe "Status Failure"...or loss thereof was a/the prime motivation.
His grandeur, one day real, became a delusion and he couldn't deal with it.
Kinda irreverent even talking about this.
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mtgoat666
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never ate at his restaurant. was it any good? the fam all looks fat, so must have been big portions, eh? what was he known for cooking?
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EnsenadaDr
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Fat...
Goat, the family is all from Samoa...which may or may not be an excuse...in fact, from what I just read, the family is now having doubts about giving
Seau's brain to researchers in Boston, they are consulting with Samoan elders to discuss this. In actuality during the autopsy they probably could
have saved some brain tissue for positive identification of any abnormal brain tissue due to multiple hits on the field or degenerative brain disease.
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
never ate at his restaurant. was it any good? the fam all looks fat, so must have been big portions, eh? what was he known for cooking?
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
never ate at his restaurant. was it any good? the fam all looks fat, so must have been big portions, eh? what was he known for cooking?
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Seriously??? Wow...   
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
never ate at his restaurant. was it any good? the fam all looks fat, so must have been big portions, eh? what was he known for cooking?
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Seriously??? |
serious!
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David K
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The sports bar/ restaurant he owns is in Mission Valley... He (and probably his parents) lived 35 miles away in Oceanside... I don't think he was a
cook at his restaurant (or was very often if at all)... I doubt if his parents went there to eat as a regular habit (if ever)... Samoans are naturally
very large people... Did you ever see the movie 'You, Me and Dupree'? Remember 'Paco'... first guess from Dupree was, Paco was Samoan.
Junior Seau was a football player not a restaurant cook... one of the best in the NFL. He had other TV rolls where he traveled the world to perform
various jobs to se if he could.
So, no... he wasn't known for his cooking nor is big portions the entire reason for their natural large size.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Did you ever see the movie 'You, Me and Dupree'? |
Nope!
So his restaurant serves Samoan food? But he did not cook there or eat there? 
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KASHEYDOG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Did you ever see the movie 'You, Me and Dupree'? |
Nope!
So his restaurant serves Samoan food? But he did not cook there or eat there?
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Hey goat !! Were you born a butt head or have you been workin' on it all your life???..........
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience..... ....  ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ??
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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