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captkw
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I will get back to you..
just did a bbq for some 40+ folks and would love to reply with facts ...about water and the fed,state,army corps of engineer and other water
projects..but its late.....but,,before you go here,,,you Better kNOW your stuff !!...not some fool that is book read !!................sueno !! Good
Night...K&T
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vgabndo
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You are not some fool who is book read??????? I don't believe I am alone in having reached that conclusion without your admission. And... good night
to you sir.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Ateo
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I HATE this new Nomad software. It took things backwards. Just spent 30 minutes compiling data into a post and it didn't go thru.
This forum is trapped in 2003.
Here was some of what I was gonna post:
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/the-gap-between...
[Edited on 2-17-2015 by Ateo]
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by captkw  | | just did a bbq for some 40+ folks and would love to reply with facts ...about water and the fed,state,army corps of engineer and other water
projects..but its late.....but,,before you go here,,,you Better kNOW your stuff !!...not some fool that is book read !!................sueno !! Good
Night...K&T |
You go sober and come on back and dazzle us with your common sense!
Re you anti-education nonsense,... You are a mechanic that wrenches engines. Educated people designed those engines. You are the minimally educated
primate that changes the oil and replaces broken parts, following specs written by some young book-learned 20 year old engineering intern 
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Ateo
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| Quote: Originally posted by captkw | | just did a bbq for some 40+ folks and would love to reply with facts ...about water and the fed,state,army corps of engineer and other water
projects..but its late.....but,,before you go here,,,you Better kNOW your stuff !!...not some fool that is book read !!................sueno !! Good
Night...K&T |
Can't wait to read your facts. I'm always willing to change my mind given evidence. Are you?
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luv2fish
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The Sky Is Falling
| Quote: Originally posted by wessongroup | Most definitely .. hard to swallow, without water to wash it down .. beer and/or wine can work for a while, but, long term not a good idea  |
http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_24993601/california-dr...
So back 200 years or more, what was the excuse for the droughts ????
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motoged
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Ateo,
Good link.....too bad the other stuff evaporated.....gives you something to do now.
It led to me thinking about my thinking....which led me to thinking about epistemology....which led to:
http://www.iep.utm.edu/epistemo/
A headful, for sure
[Edited on 2-17-2015 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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David K
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Bravo!
SOME 'progressives' are so sure there is no God (or 'Mother Nature' to some), and that man creates weather and can change weather... but since
accurate digital measuring instruments didn't exist 200 years ago, they will dismiss it as an anomaly. Nature bats last folks!
Have any of you seen photos from the San Diego area 100 years ago or more? There are no trees here naturally other than some oaks in the creek beds
above 1,000 feet. No golf courses, lawns, birds of paradise, oleanders, nada... Just some dry brush and cactus! Drought is NORMAL here... lot's of
rain is abnormal. Every few years we have a real wet season, but most years we do not.
[Edited on 2-18-2015 by David K]
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Glidergeek
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We all know the sky is falling. And we all know a $100+ Billion bullet train through the San Joaquin valley makes more sense then desalination plants!
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by Glidergeek | | We all know the sky is falling. And we all know a $100+ Billion bullet train through the San Joaquin valley makes more sense then desalination plants!
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Oh good one... governor moonbeam loves that one!
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motoged
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And you are so sure?
Quite the leap from repeating weather cycles to religion...   
But since you brought it up...."fundamentally":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwdVD1gGDvA
[Edited on 2-17-2015 by motoged]
[Edited on 2-17-2015 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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redhilltown
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
Bravo!
The 'progressives' are so sure there is no God (or 'Mother Nature' to some), and that man creates weather and can change weather... but since accurate
digital measuring instruments didn't exist 200 years ago, they will dismiss it as an anomaly. Nature bats last folks!
Have any of you seen photos from the San Diego area 100 years ago or more? There are no trees here naturally other than some oaks in the creek beds
above 1,000 feet. No golf courses, lawns, birds of paradise, oleanders, nada... Just some dry brush and cactus! Drought is NORMAL here... lot's of
rain is abnormal. Every few years we have a real wet season, but most years we do not. |
The "progressives" have no claim for or against a god. Many if not most of the greatest "progressives" throughout history believed in religion. This
is an idiotic red herring. We could go down this road in that well, if there IS a god, why is he letting people suffer and why are not prayers
answered but the reply is going to be he (not she), is mysterious and we do not understand his intentions. It is completely useless to this
discussion.
[Edited on 2-17-2015 by redhilltown]
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captkw
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Drought !!
Funny... I thought this thread was about the drought...it's 6 o am and I just
read this thread all the way through again....seems likes grumpy folks here....and to the "goat"... I specialize in fuel Injection and electrical
systems and Diagnostics...seldom holding a wrench, more time with a DVM and brains...your child like comments show a lot about yourself.. anyway
calif. is in a drought and I DONT know the answer of how to make snow and rain...why anyone would want to argue with this fact is beyond me !! the
east coast has been getting hammerd and the west coast has had this high pressure ridge just offshore stopping any rain...really sucks....very few
folks have had the time to really get to know the water systems in ca. or even care !! I think I'll go try a rain dance !! K&T
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David K
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LOL... of course one cannot include God here without upsetting someone, so that is why I also included Mother Nature. The whole point is the 'belief'
or 'religion' of an all powerful man (or maybe government) that can change the weather or change the climate... a false god, false belief but with
many followers. Naturally, that is my opinion... but so is man created climate change, an opinion and not a proven fact... just a bunch of projections
or predictions made that none of which have come true.
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Ateo
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged |
Ateo,
Good link.....too bad the other stuff evaporated.....gives you something to do now.
It led to me thinking about my thinking....which led me to thinking about epistemology....which led to:
http://www.iep.utm.edu/epistemo/
A headful, for sure
[Edited on 2-17-2015 by motoged] |
Wow Ged, that is SOME website! Lots to absorb there................Thanks.
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vgabndo
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
Bravo!
The 'progressives' are so sure there is no God (or 'Mother Nature' to some), and that man creates weather and can change weather... but since accurate
digital measuring instruments didn't exist 200 years ago, they will dismiss it as an anomaly. Nature bats last folks!
Have any of you seen photos from the San Diego area 100 years ago or more? There are no trees here naturally other than some oaks in the creek beds
above 1,000 feet. No golf courses, lawns, birds of paradise, oleanders, nada... Just some dry brush and cactus! Drought is NORMAL here... lot's of
rain is abnormal. Every few years we have a real wet season, but most years we do not. |
A few thoughts on your comment about godless progressives. First, you seem to tip your hand when you use the word god as a proper noun. This is
commonly done by those who believe there is only one god and that it's name is God. This is one of the root causes of the global holy war, IMJ.
More to the point, I tend to agree with those who postulate that the more intelligent a person is, and the greater their educational attainment, the
greater likelihood they will be both non-religious and liberal. It is only anecdotal, but the National Academy of Sciences in the US, an undeniably
august body, self-describes as overwhelmingly atheistic, and they are commonly charged with having a "liberal bias". I judge that they are not
atheistic as a result of being progressive, but that they are politically progressive and refuse to believe in supreme beings in the sky, or life
continuing after death because they are the most intelligent and well educated among us.
Your argument that southern California has always been a desert (or near desert) is irrefutable. The error of filling that terrain with lawns and
swimming pools and millions of water consuming human beings can probably be laid at the feet of those who professed that God would provide. Certainly
no consensus of scientists was suggesting that water would magically appear.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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MMc
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This was written by a bunch of lefties, why else would the public disagree with hard facts
Now I need to freshen up the sand I'm sticking my head under.
[Edited on 2-17-2015 by MMc]
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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David K
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Perry, the point you make about man's use of water here in SoCal is correct. The climate here will grow almost anything we want to see growing... if
one adds water.
I did not use the word 'desert', and this side of the mountains is not desert as much as it is dry Mediterranean or semi-arid in classification. Our
average rainfall is just over 10 inches a year... but we have gone multiple years with less than that, so this time is nothing new.
Swimming pools store water, so they being kept full are not nearly the users of water as agriculture (we 'gots' to eat), or golf courses (I think is a
real waste of land and water... but my opinion does not make me want to take away another's enjoyment of the activity the way some groups like to
dictate how others live).
More and more homes here are going to native plants, removing lawns, and changing wasteful irrigation products to smart watering drip irrigation and
multi stream rotor sprinklers, as well as controllers that adjust based on weather data and don't water when we do get rain. This kind of irrigation
modernization is what I do for a living, besides write about Baja history!
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bledito
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It's the Aliens. They are changing the climate and causing the droughts so they can kill off all the humans and take over the planet.They drink sea
water with no problem. That is the reason we are trying to colonize Mars.
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wessongroup
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Have never stated weather or anything is NOT cyclic "naturally" ... As in fact everything is .. in one way or another .. based on the Law of
Thermodynamics ... Something for nothing, doesn't exist
Was only discussing the "need" for water to exist by living organisms ... in that post
And the aspect of "natural events" being impacted by man
Ya know, like the salmon runs ...or: air water and soil polution and of course human population growth on the planet ... UN checked by "natural"
factors
Moving water to populations has been going on a while, think the Romans, and will be going on for the foreseeable future
Anyone that thinks California is NOT in a drought is out of the mind ... whether it is caused by man, or not ... That really isn't all that important,
when ya don't have enough water ... to drink, and grow food and fiber ... taking it to the bottom line
And I'm so happy, some are thinking of my thinking as progressive ... I'm usually call a racist, tea bagger, white devil slave master .. among others
And yes .. .this software does put a crimp in posting for some
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