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ramuma53
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Bajaguy
Why people think that problems go away just by looking the other way; to correct a problem, you have to act every day.
You want to see the problem, just look how many kids on your block are consuming drugs every day and how it affects their lives?
We are just stopping a little bit here, but most will arrive to your home town and will continue to do so untill you convince people that you have to
act, with a little act but act, not just look the other way like you propose.
Here you can not find employees free of drugs, fisherman sell their day catch for drugs while their families stave; drug dealers kill people to
protect their business, extort and kidnapp; those are the side effects of a traffic that bring drugs to the USA, but who cares? what would have
happened if in Chicago people like you, had their way?
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
"As the World Turns" |
"As My Stomach Turns" 
In Memory of E-57
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ramuma53
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Olivia was caught by the Army with 10 Kilos of Cocaine but released just 2 days after the event; ... |
Yah, that's believable.. NOT!
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Pescador
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Well, I knew when I got back down here and was able to talk to some of my friends who are pretty much in the know about what goes on in Bahia
Concepcion, that I would get pretty much the correct picture and I am afraid that the majority are not totally in agreement with El Mano Negro and had
some pretty derogatory things to say about his character and ways of doing business. So I guess that no matter how many times you try to brand
someone with a negative paint brush, it just does not always come out the way that you want.
And now we hear that she is getting friendly with all the powers that matter which makes her extremely smart or something.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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[Edited on 11-13-2009 by ELINVESTI8]
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bajamigo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
Rafael thank you for your update. |
Do you have a little applet that posts this message every so often? Seems obsequious, especially since the contents of ramuma's posts seem to come up
a little short in the reality department.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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I must admit that I had to look up the word obsequious and after reading the definition I must tell you if you knew me you would not have asked that
question using that word. I am my own man and do as I please as long as it is legal and I have the money to do it. Since neither of us knows who is
telling the truth in this matter I elect to thank the purveyor of the update and will continue to do so to both sides until one side or the other is
proven to be a liar. Thank you for your understanding.
David
Obsequious
1. characterized by or showing servile complaisance or deference; fawning: an obsequious bow.
2. servilely compliant or deferential: obsequious servants.
3. obedient; dutiful.
Synonyms:
1. sycophantic, flattering. 2. cringing, submissive. See servile.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
Since neither of us knows who is telling the truth in this matter |
Probably the only one who doesn't know whats going on, is you Investi.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Jesse since I do not want to get into a war of words with you or anyone else for that matter as to which party is telling the truth and which is not,
I will just say that the only people who actually know the truth are the parties involved and not us which includes you and others. So why don’t you
just let it alone where I am concerned and allow me to think as I choose to think without your comments to what I know and what I don’t know and I
will continue to thank the parties involved when they make an update. I think that is fair don’t you? Thank you!
David
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Diver
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Sorry David but some/many of us think you are whacked.
Ramuna is obviously an alarmist liar; obviously !
Onsequious = "suck-up".
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Now that is funny Diver. Call me whacked, but I still maintain that none of us know the truth. I am not willing to go along with a lynch mob to
besmirch someone’s character without proof. It's that simple. I do not know any of the parties and only know what I have read here. If what has been
written here and in the on-line reporting is the truths you hold on to, God help us all.
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Skipjack Joe
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David,
It's true that none of us know the truth.
But what we're seeing here month after month is one party bashing another without us knowing the truth. This is't an argument between two parties.
This is one man attempting to destroy an individual online and boasting about it.
And then you post periodically "thank you ramuma for an update".
Can you understand how pathetic this thread is?
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bajamigo
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And never a question about the factuality of any single item in ramuma's posts. Simple stuff, like "how do you know that, ramuma," or "where did that
information come from, ramuma." Any investigator worth his salt would raise some very basic issues, rather than function as an apologist for ramuma
with a mindless refrain of "thank you for the update."
David, I'm sure you are a successful and competent investigator. This thread presents excellent opportunities for you to demonstrate that. Please do.
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David K
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David,
I have met the two people that ramuma53 is trying to destroy... I also talk to others in the Bahia Concepcion/ Mulege area... Mark and Olivia are
victims of harassment, and more... None of the claims made by ramuma53 are true... There was no navy ship anchored off the beach, either... It is
really laughable.
It is one day's drive from El Rosario to Bahia Concepcion... go there, meet Mark and Olivia... You won't meet ramuma53 because he isn't there when he
says he is. If you do meet him at his Tijuana office or where ever, I bet you would realize all the things Jesse say are correct.
Go ahead, do some investi8'ing and I think you will stop feeding this human shark...
tu amigo,
David
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Just know I thank both sides for their updates and have never taken the side of Rafael, Olivia or Mark. I think my posts will bear that out.
Now, if what Rafael said is untrue with respect to his written statement on Baja Nomad: "Olivia was caught by the Army with 10 Kilos of Cocaine but
released just 2 days after the event..." then Olivia has legal standing to file libel charges against Rafael in Mexico, or am I mistaken. If what
Rafael said here pans out to be untrue then as far as I am concerned everything he has said to date or in the future holds no credibility. That goes
for Olivia and Mark too if anything they have said in the past is untrue. Now as for me investigating this matter well, it’s obvious I cannot since I
am not a Mexican police detective and I am not assigned the case. Rest assured if I was I would conduct a thorough and unbiased investigation to get
to the bottom of things. Since I can do nothing I will continue to be impartial in this matter until the truth is found out and hopefully revealed
here.
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bajaguy
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David....based on my 34 years in law enforcement, I find it hard to believe that if anyone was caught with large quantities of cocaine in Mexico by
the army or the police they would be out of jail anytime soon after the seizure......I'm sorry, but his story doesn't wash.......
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comitan
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(Since I can do nothing I will continue to be impartial in this matter until the truth is found out and hopefully revealed here)
David since you can do absolutely nothing about this situation, why do you continue to prompting their posting. Why not let it die the horrible
death it deserves.
[Edited on 11-12-2009 by comitan]
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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ELINVESTIG8R
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
Rafael thank you for your update. |
Ok so I guess I am a bad man in your eyes for stating the above when one of the parties gives an update, well then so be it.
I will continue saying thank you when one of the parties gives us an update. I thank you in advance for your patience.
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David K
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Update? A myth or lie shouldn't count or get any recognition as a factual update, should it?
No navy ship, no unloading drugs nightly way down a dead end bay in front of countless Nomads who live and camp along there, and no arrest and release
2 days later...
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Dave
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Turtles live a long time...
And I expect this thread will outlive most. 
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