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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 04:17 PM


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If someone was going to hide a vehicle after murdering the owner, wouldn`t they remove the plates? Or try to disguise the vehicle some how? Or burn the vehicle to hide evidence? Or keep the cameras?


Or, park it in town with the keys in the ignition. Instant POOF. It's gone. :lol:




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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 04:31 PM


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The fact that there were valuables still inside, and the vehicle was intact is testament to the remoteness and lack of traffic in the area. In most parts of the peninsula, a car could not be left for a night without being stripped, let alone months.


Exactly. The idea that someone would go to the length of hiding a car down 40 miles of dirt road is preposterous, at best. It wouldn't take more than a few hours for it to 'disappear' in one of the yonkes.
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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 05:06 PM


unless the person saw the flyers and knew that the police were hot on the trail, and didn't want to take a chance.
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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 05:10 PM


Speculation and rehashing gets you no where and makes me and i would think other nomads stop reading and that is a bad thing because we need good fresh intel, eyes and ears on the ground and resolution not speculation and what ifs that mire the important and pertinant information.:fire:
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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 05:12 PM


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unless the person saw the flyers and knew that the police were hot on the trail, and didn't want to take a chance.
Maybe Chapo Guzman forced Gary to give him a ride to that remote location after holding him hostage for 3 months, then loaded him in his helicopter and dropped him in the ocean so there was no witnesses. Can you see how pointless this is?



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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 05:16 PM


Iagree, stop all the negative speculation, ban Edoc from this post...He may (hopefully) have met a lovely latina, and is busily frying his brain as we speak....WHY? All the doom and gloom? When LL pulls the plug, thats it....



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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 05:58 PM


I love you too Chuckie, when I see you I will give you an abrazo fuerte and un besito amigo!! Muah!!
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Iagree, stop all the negative speculation, ban Edoc from this post...He may (hopefully) have met a lovely latina, and is busily frying his brain as we speak....WHY? All the doom and gloom? When LL pulls the plug, thats it....
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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 06:10 PM


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Iagree, stop all the negative speculation,


Negative speculation can be helpful, Chuckie, if it makes any sense, but most, to this moment, hasn't made any sense at all.

We can hope for better in the future. :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 06:13 PM


Of course not, if it comes from a woman!! That goes without saying!!
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Iagree, stop all the negative speculation,


Negative speculation can be helpful, Chuckie, if it makes any sense, but most, to this moment, hasn't made any sense at all.

We can hope for better in the future. :biggrin:
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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 06:15 PM


We need to slow down and pace ourselves. We apparently have three weeks of speculation and innuendo to create before the good guys return to the scene. :lol:

Although Janene does seem pretty capable.............:rolleyes:
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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 06:18 PM


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Of course not, if it comes from a woman!! That goes without saying


You, a woman, are in the minority [although not alone] for bloviating BS in this thread.




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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 06:23 PM


really? I think I had some good ideas...well that's ok I was just trying to help...
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Of course not, if it comes from a woman!! That goes without saying


You, a woman, are in the minority [although not alone] for bloviating BS in this thread.
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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 06:28 PM


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Of course not, if it comes from a woman!! That goes without saying


You, a woman, are in the minority [although not alone] for bloviating BS in this thread. [/quote bloviating, word for the day! (yes, I had to look it up).;D
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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 06:38 PM


Until you played the gender card, I was willing to cut you some slack. Now I'm just going to sit quietly and believe in my heart that you watch WAY too many soap operas on TV and that your opinions reflect that kind of conditioning. That's just speculation on my part. I'm just trying to help.:lol:



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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 06:40 PM


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Of course not, if it comes from a woman!! That goes without saying


You, a woman, are in the minority [although not alone] for bloviating BS in this thread. [/quote bloviating, word for the day! (yes, I had to look it up).;D


Good for you Willard guy, you just proved you don't watch Bill O'Reilly on Faux! Now back to the regularly scheduled speculation.




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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 06:52 PM


Actually I never watch TV. I am taking the day off relaxing and getting away from studying. I hate sitcoms and soap operas. Remember that sometimes life is truer than fiction. I was brought up however, on non-fiction books that my mom used to read and I loved as well: In Cold Blood by Truman Capote, A stranger beside me, about Ted Bundy, and many other true crime mysteries.
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Until you played the gender card, I was willing to cut you some slack. Now I'm just going to sit quietly and believe in my heart that you watch WAY too many soap operas on TV and that your opinions reflect that kind of conditioning. That's just speculation on my part. I'm just trying to help.:lol:
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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 06:59 PM


I have " lurked " on this forum for awhile, as there are often informative and interesting posts, but have never really "logged in " Why? Because with all the good hearts here, people who care, there are those who appear to be at the " upper level" who are very critical and at times, outwardly abusive to posters. i can hear it now, get a thick skin, whatever, for all the good some of you nomads do, lizard lips etal there are some of you who are so full of yourselves and nasty it is staggering. There are people here, myself included that are concerned about what happened to Gary. We are are expressing thoughts, some of them maybe dumb, but often by going over a situation , some little potentially inconsequential grain becomes VERY important. i doubt my feelings will be well received because there are some people here who think they are vastly more intelligent than the rest of us. I have lived in Baja on and off for 30 years and there is always something new to learn. I suspect this will be my last post( raise your glasses in toast) because the attitude is as we say here, es insuportable
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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 07:09 PM


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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 08:44 PM


I like your comments. I hope you continue to post. I agree with you 100%.
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I have " lurked " on this forum for awhile, as there are often informative and interesting posts, but have never really "logged in " Why? Because with all the good hearts here, people who care, there are those who appear to be at the " upper level" who are very critical and at times, outwardly abusive to posters. i can hear it now, get a thick skin, whatever, for all the good some of you nomads do, lizard lips etal there are some of you who are so full of yourselves and nasty it is staggering. There are people here, myself included that are concerned about what happened to Gary. We are are expressing thoughts, some of them maybe dumb, but often by going over a situation , some little potentially inconsequential grain becomes VERY important. i doubt my feelings will be well received because there are some people here who think they are vastly more intelligent than the rest of us. I have lived in Baja on and off for 30 years and there is always something new to learn. I suspect this will be my last post( raise your glasses in toast) because the attitude is as we say here, es insuportable
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[*] posted on 4-8-2014 at 09:37 PM
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I think this could potentially provide a lot of information and answer many questions.

Some have written that Gary is an avid shooter and probably took snapshots along the entire journey.

My thoughts were that since it's probable that he perished slowly, he likely recorded his condition. Others in his situation either write notes or take images of the situation knowing that they will help people understand. It's therefore possible that the camera may have videos recording Gary's thoughts, fears, and decisions during those last days.

Of course, it's also possible that Gary fully expected to return to his car from the walk for help and the danger took him by surprise. But the first scenario is more probable. So some important information could come out of that camera.
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