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Mika
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Hi all,
I just heard from a friend who drove down to GN to Loreto yesterday (9/7). This is basically the same thing posted here already, but I thought I will
post it anyway.
San Ignacio had 2 feet of mud through the road leading to the center of town. No electricity. No electricity in Santa Rosalia either. It will be a
long time the electricity is fully back up because so many power lines are down. In Mulege, people had their mattresses drying outside, trash in the
trees and all over. A lot of dead stuff, fecal matter and smelled so much. Flies everywhere.
As for the driving itself, except for one place just south of Sta. Rosalia it is very drivable. (Note that my friend is driving a sedan.) All the
bridges on the new road between Sta. Rosalia and Mulege were washed out, the old road just got covered in mud, but it was cleaned off, and that is
what is now being used.
Everywhere people are talking that there is no water and no beer.
On a brighter side, because of so much rain, desert is full of green and it is so beautiful, showing the beauty and strength of Baja.
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mtgoat666
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Location: San Diego
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Mood: Hot n spicy
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What happened in San Ignacio?????
So much talk about Mulege,... I am still wondering what happened in San Ignacio Village. Any news?????????
maybe it is buried in all the prior posts, just can't find way to plow thru the long string of posts
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wilderone
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Could someone please explain how all the cash donations are going to be used? Are supplies going to be purchased in the US with the money and taken
down to [where? - Mulege, Lopez M., or?]. Who will be purchasing? Paying top dollar or getting discounts, used items or what? What supplies are
going to be purchased - construction, household, emergency food/water? Who is going to oversee the funds so that it is assured that the money is
spent wisely? Will there be accountability by those collecting the money? Will the collection be ongoing (a year?), with disbursements made at a
later date for later needs? Follow-up, progress reports? I don't agree that supplies and cash should be turned over to the resident priest. This is
a serious endeavor and needs to be well thought out. Our local TV had a spokesperson from a San Diego Red Cross office who said that they accommodate
international relief, and that Mexico needs to request their help. Maybe the mayor of Mulege can specifically ask the San Diego Red Cross to help
them, and maybe there needs to be some advice provided in this regard. Need somebody at ground zero to relay immediate needs and coordinate efforts.
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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I spoke to Juanita at Casa Leree...the village was also hit very hard with the most severe flooding since 1959...but she said everything was under
control...the army and locals were dealing with things and that they didnt need any immediate aid.
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EngineerMike
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Wilder1-
There are several conduits now. Nomad Mexrick (Rick Barber of Mulege MLS), Baja Bush Pilots (most welcome guys in Baja in times like this), Mulege
Student Scholarship Program, Inc., Mulege Rotary is mobilizing and will have an announcement hopefully w/in 24 hrs (forgive them for not having com's
up as they have much on their individual plates), a whole lot of individuals in caravans, and I'm sure I've missed some.
Here is what MSSP is and will be doing:
Collections will continue till they stop coming. Thanks to all who have given, and those that will hopefully soon.
We will purchase food & repair supplies in the U.S. at home stores, etc. and truck them down ourselves. We are trying to get dispensation at
MexCustoms thru the Consulate today; no promises- I will pay the duty if we don't get a pass, as I don't want to spend weeks or months trying to save
15%. Virtually all this stuff is 30% more in MX anyway due to their import taxes.
I'm leaving Thu or Fri w/the first load which is already full, and staying at most overnight. I'll talk to the Military at the Kindergarten food
station, Bomberos at the firehouse, Saul Davis who knows everybody and everybody knows him, the Delegado, hopefully DIF, and then head back for next
round of purchase/load/travel. After John we made 5 trips in rapid succession over 2.5 months. After Julio- 3 trips. Subsequent loads will include
a 5x8 box trailer. Each trip's load will take first what didn't fit last time then new stuff depending on recon results as they evolve. There is no
question we will run out of cash months before the needs are satisfied. My wife & I are donating the gas & travel costs 100%, and the time.
Our funds will be overseen by me personally (same as the Scholarship funds overall). We will report here on Nomad what the situation is each trip,
and what we forsee. Each person who donates receives appropriate receipt for their donation, and follow up reports on how disbursement happens. Hope
to count you in soon.
As to the Delegado asking the Red Cross, I'll make you a deal- you contact SanDiego Red Cross and find out exactly what "Mexico needs to request
their help" means. Sounds to me like they need Cruz Roja to ask Red Cross, but they likely have some specific protocol, maybe Governor or
President has to ask. Get the very specific scoop on this and email it to me at mike@fleming.cc. I will relay that immediately to somebody
in Mulege who can interface w/the Delegado (not sure who but I will find out). If it takes you a coupla days and I'm on the road, I will get the info
in Mulege and take it to the Delegado myself. Sooner is better, we're burnin daylight. Thanks.
Director, Mulege Student Scholarship Program
Oasis Rio Baja #M-3, & Auburn, CA
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ElFaro
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Renting a Semi and Truck Driver ?
Has anyone considered renting a Mexican Semi-Truck and Trailer rig with driver either as an independent or from a Company in TJ maybe willing to
donate the truck? People could load the truck at some dropoff point in TJ and then someone already heading down could either drive with the trucker
or lead/follow with their car/truck? Sometimes these truckers know how to get through the "red tape".
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Cypress
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EngineerMike, Some folks talk about it and some folks do it. You're doing it.
Good luck. Keep us posted.
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foxyrose
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PLAYA LOS NARANJOS MULEGE MX
I AM SUPPOSE TO VISIT OUR FRIENDS DUSTIN AND LILY BROWN LATER THIS MONTH, BUT HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THEM. CAN ANYBODY GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION
REGARDING THEIR WHEREABOUTS AND IF THEY SUFFERED ANY DAMAGE ON THE BEACH. I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE PALAPA BUT CAN NOT FIND ANY PICS OF THEIR NEW
PLACE. WOULD APPREICATE ANY INFO YOU CAN PROVIDE AS WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEM. HOPE TO HEAR FROM SOMEONE SOON. IF YOU SEE THEM, TELL THEM TO
PLEASE, PLEASE CONTACT US. WE ARE WORRIED SICK.
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Cypress
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foxyrose, The area along the Rio was flooded etc. Naranjos? Your buddies are probably OK. No power. No telephone. No way to contact you.
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Bob and Susan
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Location: Mulege BCS on the BAY
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dustin is fine...not even here
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JESSE
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In the Santo Domingo-Zaragoza-Insurgentes area things are advancing pretty good. We sent water, food, and blankets, and today i was informed
electricity is back, as well as cell phones. They are still working on getting the water back, and are fixing lots of damage due to high winds. People
are happy no deaths or serious injuries happened. I am heading up again this next Monday and will report on progress.
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Posada-BushPilot
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Posts: 126
Registered: 9-4-2006
Location: Carson City NV/Posada Conception, Mulege
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Mulege Rotary Club Bank Account info
For those of you who wish to donate dollars to the Mulege relief efforts thru our Rotary Club the following is our account information for
wire/electronic transfers.
Bank: BBVA Bancomer, SA
Branch #: 5140
Address: Calle Zaragoza sn Col Centro Mulege BCS
client name: Ramon Mesa Canett
Account #; 0159340572
interbank key: 012040001593405729
swift------BCMRMXMM
ABA#: 021000021
Mr. Ramon Canett (know as Gallito or little chicken in english) is the hospital adminstrator, the fire chief, and treasurer of our Rotary Club.
Quito, will assist him with disbursing the donations. Quito is last years President of our club, assistant fire chief and works at the high school.
Both very trustworthy gentlemen and we are blessed to have them active in our club.
The money will be used to purchase building materials, food, clothing, etc. to those Mexican citizens of Mulege whom they (Gallito & Quito)
determine to be in dire need of assistance.
They will be held accountable for every dollar and have proven to be reliable with accounting for expenditures.
I plan to post an update weekly with results of our fundraising drive. Please send me an email to let me know that you have sent in a donation and
indicate if you wish to remain anonymous.
Mike Fleming has agreed to allow us to use his paypal account for collecting donations which he will wire transfer into our Bancomer account. Thank
you Mike. I will re-post his instructions to use paypal in another post. This one is getting way tooo long.
On behalf of the Rotary membership I'd like to thank you for your generosity and support.
randykephart@yahoo.com
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Bajahowodd
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I'm thinking that this IS the go-to spot. Thanks, Randy.
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foxyrose
Newbie
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Do you know if there was any damage to Los Naranjos. Does anybody of pictures.
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BajaNuts
Super Nomad
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Mood: no worry, no hurry....it's all good!
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foxyrose,
perhaps bob&susan meant for you to send your email to them via u2u and they would send you some pics instead of posting your email on the open
forum?
B'Nuts
[Edited on 9-9-2009 by BajaNuts]
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Siri
Newbie
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Registered: 9-5-2009
Location: loreto, bcs
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Latest Update from Baja Bush Pilots
My name is Siri Thomas. I live in Loreto (although I'm in the US now) and worked with the Baja Bush Pilots during their Airlift after Hurricane John
in 2006. I spoke with Jack and Claudia today and wanted to provide a quick update on the status of their efforts.
Jack is back from Baja, after surveying damage and meeting with Cruz Roja (the Mexican Red Cross) to assess needs and discuss delivery strategies.
Claudia is putting together a list of their resources and plans so far, including locations where you can drop-off physical donations which will be
picked up and transported down by BBP pilots and the options for making financial donations. She will be posting this to the BBP website and mailing
list shortly, and then I will copy the update into a Nomads posting, but with a few changes (most importantly, at Jack and Claudia's request, I will
be providing my name and contact information for credit card donations to BBP from Nomad members). I am only compiling the information (not the $
itself) to forward to BBP because their office is overwhelmed with responses, logistics and planning.
For those dual BBP/Nomad members, please know that I will post the next BBP update onto Nomads as soon as it's done, as well as a bit more information
on how the BBP airlift projects work for those who are not in BBP and may not know. For example, I saw a post where someone questioned the efficiency
(in particular, financially) of flying reliefs down instead of driving...they probably don't realize that BBP uses helicopters to deliver relief
supplies to isolated ranches all throughout the Sierras--places that can't be reached by road and lack landing strips so helicopters are the only
viable option.
Perhaps the most important thing to understand about the BBP is that they are working in conjunction with Cruz Roja (as they did after Hurricane
John). Donations will be spread around in the various towns and allocated based on assessments by Cruz Roja. Since CR is on the ground in most
affected areas, BBP finds them to be in the best position to make these important decisions.
Based on what I've seen of how the Nomads site is organized, I am thinking I will post BBP's next update here in a new thread specific to BBP, so
please check back here and/or look for a new thread with BBP in the subject.
Thanks to everyone who is organizing funds (particularly in the Mulege area), donating $, collecting clothes and other items.
Back shortly...
Siri
[Edited on 9-9-2009 by Siri]
[Edited on 9-9-2009 by Siri]
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ecomujeres
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Registered: 9-10-2006
Location: Mulege, BCS & Oakland, CA
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(first posted Jimena Donation Station Update topic)
UPDATED DONATION LIST - Sept 9
People keep asking "where do I donate?"
I have a one-stop shopping place for all of you who want to donate and am updating it as info comes in.
http://www.lasecomujeres.org/Jimena_links.html
For donation info, a new topic was created: "Jimena Donation Station Update". Please only post donation information th.ere
Let's get to work (wallets), Nomads! Keep Mike, Randy, Rick and the Bush Pilots busy tracking donations.
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David K
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Thank you Siri!
There are many, many non-pilots who used to read the Baja Bush Pilots forums and stay up-to-date with that group who can't since the forums there went
to a 'members only' blackout for viewing.
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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I was just sent an email and ask to post this info....
the Mulege people are working very hard and say the Serenidad airstrip should be ready for planes by tomorrow...wednesday.
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vgabndo
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Many thanks to new Nomad HENDO who stopped at our place in Mt. Shasta this afternoon and took boxes of clothing and fifty pounds of hardware on his
way to Mulege where he has a place at Don Chano's.
I'm very grateful, and in just a few minutes today I feel like I have a new friend. He and his sister are good folks and I welcome them to the Nomad
family.
Big white F 250 diesel with a lumber rack and two wheel barrows over the cab. If you see them blow 'em a kiss.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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