BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]

Go To Bottom
Printable Version  
 Pages:  1  ..  5    7    9  ..  70
Author: Subject: Ron Hoff/Bajagringo attacked
SiReNiTa
Special Correspondent
***




Posts: 881
Registered: 5-5-2006
Location: Ensenada, B.C.S.
Member Is Offline

Mood: Savoring life while saving the world!

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:08 PM


of course she can stay with us as long as needed.

I'm calling back now to see if there is any development, although if he was conscious he would be able to give consent?




Live life as well as you can,
don\'t regret the things that once made you smile,
learn from your mistakes,
and thank God for every second he gives you upon this earth.

Visit me at
Http://BajaScents.Scentsy.com.mx
View user's profile Visit user's homepage This user has MSN Messenger
SiReNiTa
Special Correspondent
***




Posts: 881
Registered: 5-5-2006
Location: Ensenada, B.C.S.
Member Is Offline

Mood: Savoring life while saving the world!

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:15 PM


Ok, the number is 646-178-3477

The woman said that as soon as they get family consent they can start proceedures, and thatas far as transportation goes there if a form that needs to be filled out by a family member, but this can only be done after talking to the doctors to see if it's safe to move him.
She also said Chava had just been there and said that Ron's daughter was on her way???




Live life as well as you can,
don\'t regret the things that once made you smile,
learn from your mistakes,
and thank God for every second he gives you upon this earth.

Visit me at
Http://BajaScents.Scentsy.com.mx
View user's profile Visit user's homepage This user has MSN Messenger
shari
Select Nomad
*******


Avatar


Posts: 13048
Registered: 3-10-2006
Location: bahia asuncion, baja sur
Member Is Offline

Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:18 PM


probably an american ambulance could be arranged to meet a mexican ambulance at secondary in at the border in TJ...that's what we did in our medivac from GN...the patient was a fireman so his buddies arranged the ambulance on the american side to meet at secondary for the transfer.



for info & pics of our little paradise & whale watching info
http://www.bahiaasuncion.com/
https://www.whalemagictours.com/
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
Bajagypsy
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1416
Registered: 8-31-2006
Location: Bahía Asuncion BCS
Member Is Offline

Mood: Living the dream

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:18 PM


Our thoughts and healing energy are being sent. What a senseless tragedy, I shudder at the morals and ethics of somepeople, what is this world coming to?



View user's profile Visit user's homepage
Natalie Ann
Ultra Nomad
*****


Avatar


Posts: 2819
Registered: 8-22-2003
Location: Berkeley
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:23 PM


Such sad sad news.
Many prayers I send for their survival and recovery.

nena




Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
View user's profile
SFandH
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 7084
Registered: 8-5-2011
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:28 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by shari
probably an american ambulance could be arranged to meet a mexican ambulance at secondary in at the border in TJ...that's what we did in our medivac from GN...the patient was a fireman so his buddies arranged the ambulance on the american side to meet at secondary for the transfer.


The Mexican ambulance service can arrange for American paramedics to be ready at the border. A friend of mine who lives in TJ had an emergency, called the Mexican Red Cross, an ambulance was at his house in 10 minutes and they took him straight to the border. Paramedics were waiting. Ambulances and other emergency vehicles have a special access that avoids the lines.




Want to adopt a mellow Baja dog or cat? - https://www.facebook.com/bajaanimalsanctuary/
View user's profile
shari
Select Nomad
*******


Avatar


Posts: 13048
Registered: 3-10-2006
Location: bahia asuncion, baja sur
Member Is Offline

Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:30 PM


sirenita reports that the doctors are standing by ready to start some sort of treatment when they get permission from a family member....usually written but in this emergency they said a phone call would do...in order to transfer him, his bill will have to be liquidated first so there may be some scrambling to get some cash together for this...which will most likely be paid back by the medical plan.



for info & pics of our little paradise & whale watching info
http://www.bahiaasuncion.com/
https://www.whalemagictours.com/
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
SiReNiTa
Special Correspondent
***




Posts: 881
Registered: 5-5-2006
Location: Ensenada, B.C.S.
Member Is Offline

Mood: Savoring life while saving the world!

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:31 PM


Has anyone checked in on Cristina lately???



Live life as well as you can,
don\'t regret the things that once made you smile,
learn from your mistakes,
and thank God for every second he gives you upon this earth.

Visit me at
Http://BajaScents.Scentsy.com.mx
View user's profile Visit user's homepage This user has MSN Messenger
Woooosh
Banned





Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline

Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:31 PM


This happened last night and as of 2:15pm today they are waiting for family consent to begin treatment? You've got to be kidding, he could have been in San Diego twelve hours ago not waiting. This can't be true.



\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
woody with a view
PITA Nomad
*******




Posts: 15939
Registered: 11-8-2004
Location: Looking at the Coronado Islands
Member Is Offline

Mood: Everchangin'

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:35 PM


and why do the doctors need consent? isn't there some oath they take to help the sick and injured? not stand around waiting for someone to say okay?



View user's profile
BajaBlanca
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 13195
Registered: 10-28-2008
Location: La Bocana, BCS
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:37 PM


how far away is the daughter ???? someone must contact her to have her call in.




Come visit La Bocana


https://sites.google.com/view/bajabocanahotel/home

And always remember, life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by those moments that take our breath away.
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
SiReNiTa
Special Correspondent
***




Posts: 881
Registered: 5-5-2006
Location: Ensenada, B.C.S.
Member Is Offline

Mood: Savoring life while saving the world!

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:38 PM


I think the issue is that when a patient is in a delicate condition, if the hospital makes a decision and the outcome is negative they are held responsible, which is why in the great majority of hospitals here and everywhere they hesitate to act without family consent...

Maybe not the right way to do things but we have to work with what he have =(




Live life as well as you can,
don\'t regret the things that once made you smile,
learn from your mistakes,
and thank God for every second he gives you upon this earth.

Visit me at
Http://BajaScents.Scentsy.com.mx
View user's profile Visit user's homepage This user has MSN Messenger
Woooosh
Banned





Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline

Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:44 PM


are you kidding me? He has not received ANY medical treatment yet? If Ron is confirmed as ex-navy by his daughter- find some way to get him and his wife to San Diego ASAP. It's four hours away and his situation has to be deteriorating without treatment. Seriously. I don't know anything about emergency VA transport- but surely someone here must. Keep hanging in there for him- you are doing what you can!

[Edited on 9-11-2011 by Woooosh]




\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
********




Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:46 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
This happened last night and as of 2:15pm today they are waiting for family consent to begin treatment? You've got to be kidding, he could have been in San Diego twelve hours ago not waiting. This can't be true.


Probably because no one knew what to do or who to call. Perhaps this illustrates a need for a firm plan of action for the future.

Thank God for Mike or we may still be unaware of this mess.



.

[Edited on 9-11-2011 by DENNIS]
View user's profile
DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
********




Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:48 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
and why do the doctors need consent? isn't there some oath they take to help the sick and injured? not stand around waiting for someone to say okay?


They sue down here too.
View user's profile
Gypsy Jan
Ultra Nomad
*****


Avatar


Posts: 4275
Registered: 1-27-2004
Member Is Offline

Mood: Depends on which way the wind is blowing

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:52 PM
Sorry, Shari


Been there, done that and here is what happened.

I followed the Mexican ambulance to the border that was carrying my husband.

Yes, they cut across the lines and we crossed the border quickly, but the SD paramedics on the other side would not take him to the VA hospital.

The Mexican ambulance attendants carefully transferred my husband to my back seat and I drove him to the VA hospital.




“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain

\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna

\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
View user's profile
baronvonbob
Nomad
**




Posts: 196
Registered: 1-5-2010
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:52 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
This happened last night and as of 2:15pm today they are waiting for family consent to begin treatment? You've got to be kidding, he could have been in San Diego twelve hours ago not waiting. This can't be true.


Probably because no one knew what to do or who to call. Perhaps this illustrates a need for a firm plan of action for the future.

Thank God for Mike or we may still be unaware of this mess.

who, Mike, ?



.

[Edited on 9-11-2011 by DENNIS]
View user's profile
BajaNomad
Super Administrator
*********


Avatar


Posts: 4995
Registered: 8-1-2002
Location: San Diego, CA
Member Is Offline

Mood: INTP-A

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:52 PM


Dennis... ck u2u pls



When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel

We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
– John Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

https://www.regionalinternet.com
Affordable Domain Name Registration/Management & cPanel Web Hosting - since 1999
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
shari
Select Nomad
*******


Avatar


Posts: 13048
Registered: 3-10-2006
Location: bahia asuncion, baja sur
Member Is Offline

Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:56 PM


Jan...was it something like they had to take him to the closest hospital and not the VA hospital? I seem to remember something like that.



for info & pics of our little paradise & whale watching info
http://www.bahiaasuncion.com/
https://www.whalemagictours.com/
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
Woooosh
Banned





Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline

Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach

[*] posted on 9-11-2011 at 02:57 PM


I called the Naval Hospital and they wouldn't give me any info without authorization. They would not tell me whether emergency medical transport for Navy vets exists and how to access it. Not really what I was expecting from them.



\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
 Pages:  1  ..  5    7    9  ..  70

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

 

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt

 

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

 

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn

 

"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262