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Bajaboy
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Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
So? Did we get the frame welded or not? |
I mentioned already that it's scheduled for Monday.
Unfortunately, the choir decided to dress up like politicians and claim to have all the answers.
[Edited on 5-18-2012 by Bajaboy]
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rts551
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
It worked great until congress changed in 2007! It got worse when the executive branch also was lost. Some hope and change when we won the house in
2010... but the enemy senate refused to pass any budgets the house has submitted (they don't want things to get better, as it goes against their
plans). In the meantime, more Americans on food stamps than ever, and 15 Trillion in debt... more debt added in just 3 years as in the entire history
of all pervious U.S. presidents, combined! |
where do you get this nonsense?
Here let me help you out a little. You should repeatedly visit this site.
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/07/fiscal-factcheck/
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/romney-wrong-on-deficits-au...
and
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/02/a-texas-size-whopper/
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rts551
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Sorry Ralph, but leftist propaganda doesn't change what I lived and experienced raising two kids and growing my business, at the same time.
Tax cuts cause MORE money to come into the treasury, because tax cuts incease business revenues which increases employment which increases tax payers.
More people paying a small/ fair tax is FAR GREATER than a few people paying a higher tax. |
David, David, David..Factcheck.org is NOT a leftist organization. get with the program.
Now, Lots of us have raised families and had Jobs. and have done quiet well. It could be that those who have not, have not due to personal
decisions.
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Barry A.
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Ralph--------I just read all 3 of your "cites" in the links you provided, and I read them completely--------I see nothing there that refutes what
David K. has said---------.
It's like we live in parallel universes, seldom seeing what the other side sees--------we only see what we want to see.
Barry
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Bajaboy
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Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Ralph--------I just read all 3 of your "cites" in the links you provided, and I read them completely--------I see nothing there that refutes what
David K. has said---------.
It's like we live in parallel universes, seldom seeing what the other side sees--------we only see what we want to see.
Barry |
Problem with Dk's arguement is the use of "we lost", the "enemy Senate", etc. He attacks an idea based on the party instead of the idea. When
Universal healthcare was backed by the republicans, I'm certain he was for it.
I have a hard time discussing a topic when all one wants to do is use sound bites from their party of choice. Instead, I prefer to engage with people
who think through an idea and are open to change their opinion based on new knowledge or information.
To merely say it always "their" fault is short sighted and ignorant. Unfortunately that is what today's politicians have brought us. There is no
discourse or discussion.
Okay, I'll let the chest-pounding continue....
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Googled "House CRACKED FRAME"
Googled "Senate CRACKED FRAME"
And now must admit. This thread has gone way over my head. Toodahloo...
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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rts551
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Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Ralph--------I just read all 3 of your "cites" in the links you provided, and I read them completely--------I see nothing there that refutes what
David K. has said---------.
It's like we live in parallel universes, seldom seeing what the other side sees--------we only see what we want to see.
Barry |
Check again. more debt in 3 years than all of the other presidents combined? The national debt tripled under Reagan and has gone up 50% under Obama.
The Treasury Department’s “Debt to the Penny” Web site makes it easy to track the growth of the national debt during Obama’s presidency. There are two
key figures — for publicly held debt and for gross debt, which includes bonds that the government owes to itself (such as Social Security trust fund
bonds.)
As of Jan. 20, 2009, the publicly held debt was $6.31 trillion and the gross debt was $10.63 trillion. As of May 14, 2012, the publicly held debt was
$10.92 trillion and the gross debt was $15.68 trillion.
So, the publicly held debt has grown by $4.61 trillion, and the gross debt has grown by $5.05 trillion. Thus it’s certainly correct that the national
debt has grown by about $5 trillion under Obama.
and looking at all the debt added by all previous presidents makes the number 5 times that (remember some of that debt was paid down over the years).
Debt is a problem for sure but Just trying to keep the facts straight.
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
"we" and "enemy" are my words of choice expressing my 'feelings' on what is going on in this country... Not words from any political party sound bite.
America is hurting, people are loosing their jobs, their homes and in some cases their families because growth is being surpressed.
One party believes free people are what makes America grow and prosper.
The other party believes a government agency must take more and more from a once prosperous people and decide where to spend that money in order to
remain in power by creating a dependency state...
I have NEVER been hired by a poor person.
When government is cut and people keep more of their money (freedom), America prospers... more pay taxes, and the budget can balance.
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Why are you not working if you never ben hired by a POOR person . I hear the rich are getting Richer or is that just a myth.
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Barry A.
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J.P.-----------That IS what rich people do best, you know--------get richer!!!! I think there is a lesson there someplace-------- like Duh!!!!! It
IS an "art form" you know.
You gotta problem with that??
(I don't)
Barry
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Gentlemen, control yourselves. This thread has gone way off track.
Be patient, maybe Bajaboy will give us an update on the welding job by end of Monday.
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Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
Gentlemen, control yourselves. This thread has gone way off track.
Be patient, maybe Bajaboy will give us an update on the welding job by end of Monday. |
Taking it in Monday after work and picking it up on Tuesday.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
J.P.-----------That IS what rich people do best, you know--------get richer!!!! I think there is a lesson there someplace-------- like Duh!!!!! It
IS an "art form" you know.
You gotta problem with that??
(I don't)
Barry |
I dont have a problem with the rich getting richer I have a problem with Wingnuts blaming their personal Failure on some one else. In my life as a
working person I did a lot of things I didnt want to do but I always provided for my family. as a result today I dont have to do anything that doesnt
please me.
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Hope they get that cracked frame fixed/repaired. No big deal. They can talk about it from now till hell freezes over. But, rich vrs. poor? Jeeze!!
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Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Hope they get that cracked frame fixed/repaired. No big deal. They can talk about it from now till hell freezes over. But, rich vrs. poor? Jeeze!! |
Talking about getting a cracked frame is as exciting as watching paint dry .Fix it or Junk it.
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Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Hope they get that cracked frame fixed/repaired. No big deal. They can talk about it from now till hell freezes over. But, rich vrs. poor? Jeeze!! |
Talking about getting a cracked frame is as exciting as watching paint dry .Fix it or Junk it. |
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Welding rod is being flown in from Krypton, at Government expense funded by an elitist superpac. (classified) I would say more but right wing agencies
have spy satellites watching my welder...
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rts551
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Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
J.P.-----------That IS what rich people do best, you know--------get richer!!!! I think there is a lesson there someplace-------- like Duh!!!!! It
IS an "art form" you know.
You gotta problem with that??
(I don't)
Barry |
I dont have a problem with the rich getting richer I have a problem with Wingnuts blaming their personal Failure on some one else. In my life as a
working person I did a lot of things I didnt want to do but I always provided for my family. as a result today I dont have to do anything that doesnt
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Ahhh some intelligence.. and hard work.....and Whistler... you can be on either side of the isle and make that statement. AMEN!!! In my
lifetime anyway, if you wanted a life, it was there. It was all about choices. Glad I made the right ones.
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rts551
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Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
That same corporation taught me how to fix a cracked frame. |
Must have been "rocket science" . You can weld on my frame any day Glenn. surprised you did not jump in earlier.
[Edited on 5-18-2012 by rts551]
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rts551
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Well, if it is personal decisions at fault for this economic disaster across America, that is sure passing the blame off those responsible for the
banking/ housing disaster (Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, etc.). It isn't isolated with a few making bad decisions, the whole country is suffering and we
are WORSE off than 3 1/2 years ago.
Thank God that I had a great run from 1980 to 2008 to build my business, in order to raise my kids from 1988 to 2008 when both had reached 18.
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Blaming others again....instead of the banking industry. Geeze...and if your business did so well after 28 years of all that hard work you must be
retiring about now. Right?
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I'm gonna vote for the welding rod
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