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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 09:15 AM


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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 09:28 AM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
HIJACKED

This thread just got hijacked by football....there goes a great thread :no: :(

"Football"? What is that? Sounds like some esoteric ethnic ritual...:?:



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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 09:37 AM
Foot Ball?


Sometimes it is tough to face the day when you have 'Foot Ball'. You just have to put your best foot forward, and be careful where you step.....like a well hung dachshund!

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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 09:51 AM


Briton is going to vote on whether or not to ban Donald Trump. Which way do you think the vote will go?
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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 10:21 AM


best. thread. ever.


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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 10:31 AM


Has anyone cared what Britain had to say for the past 220some years?



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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 10:57 AM


220, 221, whatever it takes........
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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 11:45 AM


If only there were more dirt roads in Mexico. You would not get foot ball then....only dirty knuckles.
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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 11:46 AM


Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
Has anyone cared what Britain had to say for the past 220some years?


They must have said something to tick off the Tea Party.....throwing all that stuff into the harbour and starting a fight...

A bad day in the colonies?




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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 11:51 AM


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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 11:52 AM


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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 12:41 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaBill74  
....... Which way do you think the vote will go?




I dunno......

CNN sez:

CNN) With less than a month until the Iowa caucuses, followed immediately by New Hampshire's first-in-the-nation primary, it's time the conservative base and Republican establishment destroy Donald J. Trump -- before it's too late for the party, the conservative cause, and the nation.

To save our republic and the Republican Party, a senator from a different era offers a roadmap.

The great Roman orator Cato the Elder had a fierce hatred for Rome's mortal enemy, Carthage. So much so that Cato would end every speech, regardless of topic, with a reminder -- "Carthago delenda est" -- Carthage must be destroyed.

Cato rightly saw the Carthaginians as an existential threat to the Roman Republic. Like Carthage, Trump is a behemoth with sway over the same territory that the GOP covets.

Trump channels the populism of Patrick Buchanan of the 1990s. His appeal to the public strikes deeply at the GOP establishment which has utterly failed to address the concerns of what Nixon, and now Trump's own signage, called the "silent majority." These voters and taxpayers are sick and tired of being run over, run down, and run off by their "betters."

When pollsters and demographers examine "Trump voters" they find them largely white, angry and economically struggling. Their America appears to be in the rear view mirror -- where hard work, strong morals and an unwavering resolve were rewarded with opportunity and eventual success.

As the New York Times' Nate Cohn's analysis showed last week, the GOP frontrunner runs best with blue collar, rural registered Democrats. They have taken a beating in recent decades. Trade agreements and economic shifts have sent the good paying union jobs they once held to sweatshops in developing countries. The private sector unions that defended them have entered into terminal decline. Society seems to have undermined their sense of self as cultural values alien to them have become the norm, and government bureaucrats and the coastal elites seem to have grown more overbearing.

These are powerful realities for people in Trump's America that the political prognosticators, who rarely send their children into the military or get their hands dirty at work, don't understand. Trump is an enigma to them -- at once part of their club, moneyed, well-educated and successful, yet appealing to a group of people who are so different.

To follow Cato's advice, the Romans went outside their comfort zone and built a serious navy -- something they didn't have beforehand -- to take on and destroy Carthage on its own terms.

The conservative base can undo Trump by first acknowledging and then embracing the cause of the righteous anger that has catapulted Trump to the top spot in the field. The complaints about lack of opportunity and Washington's complicity in the diminishing optimism of the American people have to be folded into the message of every non-Trump candidate.

That may be a difficult task with this current crop of contenders, each with his own claim to privilege and elitism, but it's an obstacle that can be overcome.

The candidate who beats Trump (or a collection of the also-rans in tandem) has to unwind Trump's self-made, fire-breathing populist narrative.

Trump is no true conservative. He's not even a reactionary in the best sense of the word. He's a self-aggrandizing opportunist. His policies go no further than his catchphrase, "you're fired." Listening to his first television ad is like a preview for a bad movie -- an empty supercut of the highlights (or lowlights) without the plot being revealed because it's so thin.

Trump is no everyman. He built his empire with $100 million from his wealthy father. Far from born into working or middle class, Trump never struggled a day in his life except by his own failings in business and the resulting repeated bankruptcies. His privileged background enabled him to make money off money -- not exactly high on the hierarchy of middle-class values.

As for being incorruptible, Trump gave big to politicians. He admitted that was meant to buy favors. His policy positions are similarly ephemeral -- he supported the Big Government policies of Democrats and slippery values of the Clintons when it suited him. Steadfast, he is not.

If his opponents can show Trump is the emperor with no clothes, they can win over voters. When attacked, Trump seems to grow stronger but to date Trump's phony persona has yet to be unmasked. That's his Achilles' heel with his voters. An inauthentic and craven Trump would have little appeal to those seeking a candidate who would really fight for them.

The consequences of failure are huge. Not only is Trump's support base incapable of winning 270 electoral votes and the presidency, his unpredictability and inconsistency are liabilities and deeply dangerous for those who want to govern as conservatives in a methodical and principled way.

If Trump continues to do well, there could be all kinds of consequences for Republicans who want to truly address the cultural, economic and personal struggles of the voters who now stand with him.

We don't need more damage to the conservative brand. Trump must be destroyed or conservatism and the GOP will be." .....


Oh....I dunno......:light:

[Edited on 1-18-2016 by BajaNomad]




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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 01:06 PM
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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 01:08 PM


A person who is getting 30% of likely voters in 1 party is truly supported by 5-10% of the population and commands a lot of attention hmmmmm whats wrong with this picture?

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaBill74  
....... Which way do you think the vote will go?




I dunno......

CNN sez:

CNN) With less than a month until the Iowa caucuses, followed immediately by New Hampshire's first-in-the-nation primary, it's time the conservative base and Republican establishment destroy Donald J. Trump -- before it's too late for the party, the conservative cause, and the nation.

To save our republic and the Republican Party, a senator from a different era offers a roadmap.

The great Roman orator Cato the Elder had a fierce hatred for Rome's mortal enemy, Carthage. So much so that Cato would end every speech, regardless of topic, with a reminder -- "Carthago delenda est" -- Carthage must be destroyed.

Cato rightly saw the Carthaginians as an existential threat to the Roman Republic. Like Carthage, Trump is a behemoth with sway over the same territory that the GOP covets.

Trump channels the populism of Patrick Buchanan of the 1990s. His appeal to the public strikes deeply at the GOP establishment which has utterly failed to address the concerns of what Nixon, and now Trump's own signage, called the "silent majority." These voters and taxpayers are sick and tired of being run over, run down, and run off by their "betters."

When pollsters and demographers examine "Trump voters" they find them largely white, angry and economically struggling. Their America appears to be in the rear view mirror -- where hard work, strong morals and an unwavering resolve were rewarded with opportunity and eventual success.

As the New York Times' Nate Cohn's analysis showed last week, the GOP frontrunner runs best with blue collar, rural registered Democrats. They have taken a beating in recent decades. Trade agreements and economic shifts have sent the good paying union jobs they once held to sweatshops in developing countries. The private sector unions that defended them have entered into terminal decline. Society seems to have undermined their sense of self as cultural values alien to them have become the norm, and government bureaucrats and the coastal elites seem to have grown more overbearing.

These are powerful realities for people in Trump's America that the political prognosticators, who rarely send their children into the military or get their hands dirty at work, don't understand. Trump is an enigma to them -- at once part of their club, moneyed, well-educated and successful, yet appealing to a group of people who are so different.

To follow Cato's advice, the Romans went outside their comfort zone and built a serious navy -- something they didn't have beforehand -- to take on and destroy Carthage on its own terms.

The conservative base can undo Trump by first acknowledging and then embracing the cause of the righteous anger that has catapulted Trump to the top spot in the field. The complaints about lack of opportunity and Washington's complicity in the diminishing optimism of the American people have to be folded into the message of every non-Trump candidate.

That may be a difficult task with this current crop of contenders, each with his own claim to privilege and elitism, but it's an obstacle that can be overcome.

The candidate who beats Trump (or a collection of the also-rans in tandem) has to unwind Trump's self-made, fire-breathing populist narrative.

Trump is no true conservative. He's not even a reactionary in the best sense of the word. He's a self-aggrandizing opportunist. His policies go no further than his catchphrase, "you're fired." Listening to his first television ad is like a preview for a bad movie -- an empty supercut of the highlights (or lowlights) without the plot being revealed because it's so thin.

Trump is no everyman. He built his empire with $100 million from his wealthy father. Far from born into working or middle class, Trump never struggled a day in his life except by his own failings in business and the resulting repeated bankruptcies. His privileged background enabled him to make money off money -- not exactly high on the hierarchy of middle-class values.

As for being incorruptible, Trump gave big to politicians. He admitted that was meant to buy favors. His policy positions are similarly ephemeral -- he supported the Big Government policies of Democrats and slippery values of the Clintons when it suited him. Steadfast, he is not.

If his opponents can show Trump is the emperor with no clothes, they can win over voters. When attacked, Trump seems to grow stronger but to date Trump's phony persona has yet to be unmasked. That's his Achilles' heel with his voters. An inauthentic and craven Trump would have little appeal to those seeking a candidate who would really fight for them.

The consequences of failure are huge. Not only is Trump's support base incapable of winning 270 electoral votes and the presidency, his unpredictability and inconsistency are liabilities and deeply dangerous for those who want to govern as conservatives in a methodical and principled way.

If Trump continues to do well, there could be all kinds of consequences for Republicans who want to truly address the cultural, economic and personal struggles of the voters who now stand with him.

We don't need more damage to the conservative brand. Trump must be destroyed or conservatism and the GOP will be." .....


Oh....I dunno......:light:


[Edited on 1-18-2016 by rts551]

[Edited on 1-18-2016 by BajaNomad]
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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 01:33 PM


no political experience. doesn't take lobbyists donations. self funded so far, until the general election. speaks in a different tone than EVERY OTHER politician for the past 30 years. "bring jobs back! who cares if your boss makes money? you will too!:light:

obviously, he needs some experts to surround him and make policy. why can't that work? cuz he's a self-made billionaire? Obama did it, minus his own funds.

if it comes to Trump-Sanders i'll go Dem
if it comes to Trump-Hilldebeast i'll go for a breath of fresh air, not like the past 25 years.....

edit: imagine for a moment..... if the U.S.A. made shoelaces, combs, shoes, belts, Levi's, TVs, tires, or any of the multitude of items YOU use on a daily basis. Not so hard to imagine, right? what the guvmint doesn't want is for everyone to have a job, making things US consumers want made here in USA. if all of those things cost double (how much does a comb or TV cost you at walmart?) or triple, but 80% of the population was working then it would pay $20/hour to make combs all day long! the pay scale would grow from there.... win/win/win for business/you/guvmint.

i guess we could stay with the status-quo and import millions of people every year who need guvmint assistance like we continue to do. somehow the business/guvmint interests are served. HOW ARE YOU WORKERS GETTING AHEAD?

this is my political rant for the next 4 years so don't expect an answer.....

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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 01:48 PM


"To put that in perspective, if you exploded one atomic bomb the size of the one that dropped on Hiroshima every second for a year, the total energy released would be 2 zettajoules. So since 1997, Earth's oceans have absorbed man-made heat energy equivalent to a Hiroshima-style bomb being exploded every second for 75 straight years."
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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 02:02 PM


Geez....didn't mean for the thread to present a "narrow" opinion....so much for quoting anyone, huh?

See what foot ball does to the world? Or is it politics?

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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 02:06 PM


motoged, looks like your post a few back where you quoted bajabill74 somehow screwed up code causing this weird formatting. Perhaps delete that post?

Might work.
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This meant for narrow minded people?:P



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[*] posted on 1-18-2016 at 02:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
motoged, looks like your post a few back where you quoted bajabill74 somehow screwed up code causing this weird formatting. Perhaps delete that post?

Might work.


Looks like you cracked the code.....:saint:




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