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Ken Cooke
 
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4 hrs = ½ day Jeep trail.  I would like that, but the wife will want to rest.  Maybe,we could run in the afternoon and people can sightsee and sleep
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I will plug that in my agenda Rich T!  
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rich t
 
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Pioneer Mine Trail
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IMO 
The list of difficult rides diving distance from San Felipe. Hardest first. 
 With the local names 
 * Huatamote from Parral to L Diablo. (No record of a passage yet). 
*  Mini Summit Going up Hill (aka power line road summit) 
*  Mini summit going down hill 
*  Pioneer Mine road 
*  Turquesia grade 
*  Matomi 
*  Pole line road (stack the rocks and move it down the list) 
*  The other SF arroyos: Huatamote, Azufre, & Chanate, & Curevitas  
  (previous recent weather dependent) 
*  Both the Pinta passes 
*  San Pedro (aka Green Door) 
 
Add your own choices to the list 
 
 
[Edited on 8-9-2018 by PaulW]
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Paul, We should run the la turguesa(XR Trail,Freds Tractor Trail) this winter,a local Mexican jeep club ran it earlier this year, I met up with them
at Coco's in April. 
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Power line refers to Mini Summit not Pole line.
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Telegraph is improper for all the tracks.  
Poleline and Powerline are not the same tracks 
I used telegraph because I saw it in print somewhere I should not have repeated it.
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10-4 Paul... I will just delete my stuff added today. You guys have fun and keep an eye open for history! 
 
 
 
 
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 Quote: Originally posted by rich t    |  Paul, We should run the la turguesa(XR Trail,Freds Tractor Trail) this winter,a local Mexican jeep club ran it earlier this year, I met up with them
at Coco's in April. 
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Agree it has been on my to do list for years. Went there a long time ago but was voted down by my companions.
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 Quote: Originally posted by PaulW    |  IMO 
The list of difficult rides diving distance from San Felipe. Hardest first. 
 With the local names 
 * Huatamote from Parral to L Diablo. (No record of a passage yet). 
*  Mini Summit Going up Hill (aka power line road summit) 
*  Mini summit going down hill 
*  Pioneer Mine road 
*  Turquesia grade 
*  Matomi 
*  Pole line road (stack the rocks and move it down the list) 
*  The other SF arroyos: Huatamote, Azufre, & Chanate, & Curevitas  
  (previous recent weather dependent) 
*  Both the Pinta passes 
*  San Pedro (aka Green Door) 
 
Add your own choices to the list 
 
 
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Thanks for the comprehensive list, Paul.  
 
 
 
 
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The Xr trail a tuff one on our bikes years ago was not passable by 4 wheeler. With all the SXS going up hopeful it is more easy now. After the
boulders to get to hill climb. That took many runs on the bikes to get over rock pile at bottom climb. 17 or more years ago sounds like best in a
jeep.
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 Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider    |  | The Xr trail a tuff one on our bikes years ago was not passable by 4 wheeler. With all the SXS going up hopeful it is more easy now. After the
boulders to get to hill climb. That took many runs on the bikes to get over rock pile at bottom climb. 17 or more years ago sounds like best in a
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I drove up La Turquesa near the mine about 10 years ago, but I couldn't find the route to the uphill grade.  It was a nice side trip for our group.
 
 
 
 
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I have done both ends but never the whole trail. 
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                                                           Did you go the bottom up turn around go back down. Or stop at start up hill.
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For what it's worth, here is my observation after finding the top of the grade in February 2007 to 'discover' it was an auto road and not a single
track as I thought Kacey Smith had described it: http://vivabaja.com/207/ (first two pages) 
 
Following that trip, 'steekers' rode in with his m/c and took photos of the grade from the turquoise mine, then Ken and his group tried to get to the
bottom of the grade from the turquoise mine. Finally, with help from TW and others, Roy 'The Squarecircle' in an LR-3 Land Rover made it to the base,
then drove to the top and on the Hwy. 1. 
 
 
 
 
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I think Roy had more trouble at the bottom of the hill after getting out of the arroyo than the section from the mine to the arroyo exit.
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Yes the bottom of the hill had large rocks holes very steep angle at bottom. This was years ago Mike was on his TT680 custom framed Yamaha. I was on
my TT680 with Cr500 Susp and Girl on back. She was able to walk faster then we could ride the bikes HAAAA       
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We did the part from hwy 5 to the mine in the Jeeps about 7 years ago, last year I took a look at it from hwy 1 looking down, was on a 6 day dirt bike
trip and that was not part of our route but took a look for future rides. 
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courtesy of Animals4x4 Club, Mexicali 
 
 
  
  
  
...and on to THE SUMMIT and Laguna Hanson for these hardy 4 wheelers!  Muchas gracias por las fotos, Animales 4x4! 
 
 
 
 
 
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Chloe Blair 
 
 
Chloe Blaire offered to provide THE IMPOSSIBLE participants with a full MATOMI tour!  
 
Chloe Blaire wrote: 
"Cinnamon valley is in Matomi Canyon and it has an arch like they have in Utah..  Have you gone all the way in Matomi to the ranch hole, has water
fall and a large pool of water.  You can even do dry camping there."
 
 
 
 
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 Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke    |  Chloe Blaire offered to provide THE IMPOSSIBLE participants with a full MATOMI tour!  
 
Chloe Blaire wrote: 
"Cinnamon valley is in Matomi Canyon and it has an arch like they have in Utah..  Have you gone all the way in Matomi to the ranch hole, has water
fall and a large pool of water.  You can even do dry camping there."  |  
  
 
Arroyo Las Blancas, south of Arroyo Matomí: 
  
 
Photo from PaulW... from one of your threads Ken: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=68128 
 
I was going there last March 2017 but the boulders blocking the Narrows of Matomí Canyon prevented that!
 
 
 
 
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