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Skipjack Joe
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The products are designed to alter your RNA with synthesized RNA to provoke you replicate the synthesized RNA so your cells become a super
producers.....
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Completely wrong!!!!
mRNA can only be synthesized by the body from DNA in your nucleus. Each strand is coded to create a single protein. You cannot alter RNA by injecting
RNA. You can only alter it by changing the DNA. The synthesized mRNA is not replicated because as stated RNAs don't replicate. The synthesized mRNA is
used by the ribosomes to create protein and then is discarded in the same manner as the natural RNA. Your body, therefore, CANNOT and does NOT become
a super producer of synthesized of mRNA!
So your premise about the danger of mRNA is based on a misunderstanding of how the body work. You have been corrected on this before. Why do you
persist on spreading this misinformation?
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Good question. She was more interested in shutting down that conversation, likely due to her not having
done any research and she wasn't about to prescribe it for me.
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Cells Talk in a Language That Looks Like Viruses
https://www.quantamagazine.org/cells-talk-in-a-language-that...
The issue is not solely that your body IS going to change in unexpected ways by injecting synthetic messenger RNA to join with your mRNA in hopes of
it multiplying infinitely forever.
The issue is that the experimental mRNA vaccine product is intended to cause you to produce high quantity of (presumably) similar COVID viral
proteins, the type that supposedly provoke your body to produce the virus infection excretion, except that the biopharma marketers hope the mass
produced proteins will be weaker, and your body will be more able to fight them.
The theory is that by becoming a factory, producing high quantity of these proteins, you will be better able to handle the infection and symptoms?
But what if producing large quantities of similar covid proteins produces an uncontrolled response?
Or the nanoparticles covering and masquerading the synthetic RNA cause a severe adverse rejection response?
And, if the vaccine can cause you to produce COVID proteins, weren't you already able to produce COVID proteins? Meaning, is it possible that YOUR
BODY produces corona type proteins as part of cellular cleaning, and it is not an external contagion? Just as Antoine Bechamp argued and Louis Pastor
agreed a long time ago?
Have you you read about exosomes? They act and appear exactly like what biopharma labels viruses?
Perhaps we are not at risk from external bacterias and virus infection, as much as we at risk from poor health, and toxic lifestyle? You don't kill or
block external virus, you create and excrete virus, nor do you want to promote increase of protein virus production, you heal yourself to reduce the
need for virus excrements to clean cells.
Top WHO scientist says vaccinated travelers should still quarantine, citing lack of evidence that COVID-19 vaccines prevent transmission
https://www.businessinsider.com/who-says-no-evidence-coronav...
[Edited on 2-15-2021 by gnukid]
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I think what a lot of people don't realize is that these "vaccines" haven't been properly tested. Normally it takes a few years to get a new vaccine
approved for general use on people. In this case, due to the urgency of the pandemic, an Emergency Use Authorization was granted. They have NOT been
FDA approved. The long term impacts have not been studied. As an example of what can happen as a result, the swine flu vaccine that was rushed through
last decade created lasting problems for a thousand health care workers who were pressured to take it:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/shaunlintern/these-nhs-staff-were-t...
I put "vaccines" in quotes because these Covid vaccines aren't anything like traditional vaccines which inject a dead version of the virus to
stimulate an immune response. As mentioned in previous posts, these "vaccines" actually enter your own cells to stimulate your ribosomes to produce
pseudo-virus particles which then stimulate an immune response. Sounds pretty scary, you'd think we'd want them to be thoroughly studied before
unleashing on billions of people... Well, if you take the vaccine, YOU are the long term study.
The concern is both the initial shock from the vaccine injection, and also the longer term impacts months down the road. In previous studies on the
first SARS virus 10 years ago, animal studies showed Antibody Dependent Enhancement, which is an immune over-reaction when the animal is exposed to
the real virus weeks or months after vaccination. In this case, the vaccine may prove to be worse than the disease. I guess we'll see fairly soon how
real this problem is.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...
The other complication I have heard is the lack of tracking of vaccine adverse reactions. It's not totally clear but there seems to be a tendency to
count anyone who has died within 28 or 60 days of testing positive for Covid as a Covid death, even if the death wasn't directly caused by the virus.
The counting mechanism for Covid cases is advanced. By contrast, officially, there are zero deaths resulting from the vaccine. The bias is highly
skewed.
Here is a website that has tried to make sense of the VAERS data. You can look through the accounts of deaths by selecting to display 252 reports in
the lower right. Then beside this, click "search COVID reports". Select Deceased "Y" when it pops up on the left. Then go down and hit "Search" and
you will filter out all the deaths from the many reports.
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data
You will see that most deaths are in old people, but there are definitely younger people too (however mostly old people have gotten the vaccine so
far). It is also hard to determine if the death was a mere coincidence or if it was caused by the vaccine. Maybe a lot of the deaths were existing
conditions that were exacerbated by the shock reaction from the vaccine which pushed people over the edge. But in that case, it should still be
counted as a vaccine-induced death to be consistent with the criteria for counting Covid deaths.
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Gnukid,
You make claims about the illegitimacy of the vaccine. I refute specific statements. You then claim I'm wrong and make new arguments. I then refute
statements in your counter arguments.
A week goes by and you make the same original statements again.
This is madness. I'm through playing your game. You can't make a lie to be the truth by repeating it over and over like a recorded broadcast. You may
as well copy and paste your comments.
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Mexico just received its biggest shipment of the vaccine AstraZeneca manufactured in India. Almost 1 million doses.
https://www.gob.mx/salud/prensa/recibe-mexico-embarque-con-870-mil-dosis-de-vacunas-contra-el-virus-sars-cov-2?fbclid=IwAR3YGWahrdRYVjOWXQO5EwI4yLSCmE
1M5ttRrI2Ixe01FDowlAsj8nfpYoY
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| Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe | Gnukid,
You make claims about the illegitimacy of the vaccine. I refute specific statements. You then claim I'm wrong and make new arguments. I then refute
statements in your counter arguments.
A week goes by and you make the same original statements again.
This is madness. I'm through playing your game. You can't make a lie to be the truth by repeating it over and over like a recorded broadcast. You may
as well copy and paste your comments. |
He actually does do this. i'm not sure if he gets frustrated when presented with actual evidence showing his claims are nothing but BS, or if he
actually forgets where he was. it has to be really frustrating when everytime you post up your "facts" they immediately get exposed as propaganda
spewing from some fringe antivaccine group!
I also don't understand why he wants so many people to die uneccisarily. if anyone actually believes his nonsence, they are putting their lives at
risk! after all, vaccines have saved over 100 million lives over the years - but that doesnt matter to gnuey - those deaths would be neccisary
collateral damage in his deranged fantasy world!
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does anyone doubt his "windmill tilting" is simultaneously underway on several other forums. no doubt, it's difficult to keep your pitch straight
while attempting to convince the mostly rational.
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Nice.
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Skipjack Joe
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Here's an informative article about the dangers of antivaccine misinformation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-56047409
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A question: how many people do you think have died from the Covid vaccines? What number (maybe expressed as a % of those vaccinated?) would you
consider to be unacceptable?
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Informed Consent requires people taking the vaccine be fully aware of the risk versus reward, unfortunately there is no sufficient data.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/09/...
Use CDC VAERS Wonder tool to read reports of adverse effects of covid 19 vaccines, you can pull all the data and read all the reports, though, the
number pf people reporting into the system makes up a small percentage of total adverse affects, the actual total is much higher. These reports are
evidence of the high risk associated to the vaccine short term, while no long term data is available since no studies have been completed. Data is
being added daily showing paralysis, deaths, convulsions, severe allergic response, etc.
https://wonder.cdc.gov/
Consider, COVID vaccines use synthesized mRNA to join with your mRNA, multiply thousands of times a second, and provoke your body to super produce
"covid" spike proteins.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/the_facts_about_pfize...
Meaning, your body produces "covid" spike proteins, which are not living things, nor external, and your antibody response response is the viral
reaction. You produce the "covid" spike protein, and you produce the viral response in repose to toxins in the environment. Meaning, Covid is not an
external living thing, flying around waiting for you. it is a part of normal healthy expression activity to clean your body of toxins. Aersol
transmission has not been demonstrated, hundreds of studies have been unable to show transmission human to human.
Your body relies on engagement with bacterias and proteins to provoke an immune response to create antibodies that make you strong, never has
isolation been a rational approach to health, nor toxic hand washing, social distance and facemasks, especially for healthy people. Those "covid
precautions for healthy people are clear examples of failure of common sense and logic, that are extremely harmful.
Al along numbers were amplified without any positive test results, simply assigning covid positive to existing deaths.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronav...
Everyone knows deaths with COVID are not deaths from COVID. Fauci and Birx have stated the deaths are normal deaths that would have occurred, but, are
coded as with covid. 96% of those "with Covid" deaths are from 2-3 severe comorbidities. Of the total deaths a very small number are respiratory
illness only attributed to covid, pneumonia, influenza.
Fauci and Birx state guidelines for covid assign cause of death to people who die of other causes. https://goldenageofgaia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Dr-Sc...
Same in the UK, deaths are assigned to COVID with no testing nor attribution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYA24SacyYY&feature=yout...
RT PCR testing is looking for RNA, not for a unique identified illness causing virus, which has never been isolated. What is COVID Really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YvNRno-JB8&feature=yout...
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| Quote: Originally posted by Mark_BC |
A question: how many people do you think have died from the Covid vaccines? What number (maybe expressed as a % of those vaccinated?) would you
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Hey Mark - according to actual research and statistics - that answer would be none: google is your friend
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7008e3.htm
In the meantime - what is the acceptable number of deaths attributed to Vaccines to YOU? Because apparently 500,000 deaths due to Covid in the USA
is completely acceptable to you? so i assume you are OK with half a million deaths due to vaccine?
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You've already posted all of this Gnuey: each link has been vetted by people here in the forum who quickly pointed out you are wrong in your
interpritations or the link itself was shown to be Ultrarefined 100% pure BS!
when you are actually ready to educate yourself - open your mind, search out real facts and information - let us know. Until then, keep your
dangerous ignorance to yourself!
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it must be a process requiring patience and dexterity
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I know it is convenient to believe that deaths are over counted.
I guess to make the former president look bad. Which is I suppose why so many people in Belgium seem to have died from Covid, sarcasm.
However, as the governor of New York State has demonstrated, politicians of all sizes and shapes have an incentive to undercount deaths.
| Quote: | | New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has called for a “full investigation” of the allegation that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo was
hiding the real number of nursing home deaths during the pandemic in the state. |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Purdyd | I know it is convenient to believe that deaths are over counted.
I guess to make the former president look bad. Which is I suppose why so many people in Belgium seem to have died from Covid, sarcasm.
However, as the governor of New York State has demonstrated, politicians of all sizes and shapes have an incentive to undercount deaths.
| Quote: | | New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has called for a “full investigation” of the allegation that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo was
hiding the real number of nursing home deaths during the pandemic in the state. |
Strange this happened. The nursing home patients died in a hospital so the patient deaths were not attributed to contracting covid in a nursing home.
The deaths were still counted as a covid death, just not attributed to a nursing home. I guess if they died in the nursing home it counted as a
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| Quote: Originally posted by Mark_BC | I'm pretty sure I caught it back in November. It came on fast and strong but I was prepared and dosed myself with !vermect!n immediately and within 2
days it had mostly gone away. This stuff really works, it basically provides full immunity from catching the disease and will cure it if you do catch
it, even in later stages.
I hope this post doesn't get deleted, as this information could save many lives.
Edit: Here are some very interesting charts. Look at the US data, scroll down to daily deaths. It is around 3000.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Now look at India. About 150. Even though they have 4x the population of the US and live in very crowded societies, they have 20x fewer daily deaths.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/
Why the difference? Can you guess?
....... India is giving everyone the unmentionable drug above.
[Edited on 1-31-2021 by Mark_BC] |
AMEN....
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Interesting as the narrative proves false investigations begin into harm caused by government fraud with pandemic actions.
Newsom faces intensifying recall threat as pandemic frustrations grow in California
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/06/politics/gavin-newsom-recall-...
Cuomo Faces Revolt as Legislators Move to Strip Him of Pandemic Powers
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/17/nyregion/cuomo-nursing-ho...
Chris Cuomo inadvertently admits to lying about his coronavirus quarantine
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/chris-cuomo-inadv...
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2021/02/16/cuomo-lie...
At least 271 deaths, 9,845 adverse events after COVID vaccination so far: CDC data
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/at-least-273-deaths-9845-a...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-billions-pandemic-a...
Australian Covid vaccine dropped over false positive HIV result
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/australian-covid-vaccin...
VAERS Covid Vaccine Adverse Effects Summary - 929 deaths 2/20/21
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&...
Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted - Fauci "...the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe
seasonal influenza"
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387#
"As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK."
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-dise...
[Edited on 2-21-2021 by gnukid]
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so gnuey once again posts a bunch of BS - plus some legit sites that he purposely twists and trys to mislead. why is it gnuey that you think its
funny to try and lure people into dangerous beliefs and actions? is 500,000 deaths not enough for you? how many more do you need to satisfy your
blood lust?
or alternately - you are the textbook example of Dunning Krueger effect - congratulations, your wife must be very proud!
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