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latina
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At the beginning of this the family said he didn't take fishing gear.
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
I'm sorry, but it's highly unlikely anybody could survive very long in those harsh unforgiving conditions in the Baja desert during the last days of
summer in September.
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Nomads have pointed out that the San Jose road is fairly well traveled. That's 7 miles by road from Gary's vehicle. Therefore, it went from highly
unlikely, to unlikely. If he knew which direction to turn to reach that road then it could even go up to likely.
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willardguy
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 please, somebody find this guy!
The first day seemed like a week and the second day seemed like five days and the third day seemed like a week again and the fourth day seemed like
eight days and the fifth day you went to see your mother and that seemed just like a day and then you came back and later on the sixth day, in then
evening, when we saw each other, that started seeming like two days, so in the evening it seemed like two days spilling over into the next day and
that started seeming like four days, so at the end of the sixth day on into the seventh day, it seemed like a total of five days. And the sixth day
seemed like a week and a half.
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vgabndo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
vgabundo, this isnt occuring in Catavina. It's towards the coast. Catavina apparently has jurisdiction over it but it closer to areas know for
smuggling operations.
You have looked at the maps indicating where the car was found, havent you? |
I was responding to the incorrect suggestion that the cartels were not operating in the rural areas, but closer to the border. And yes, I've been on
one of those roads, and expect to be going back soon for the search. I've flown all over the area on Google to get an idea of the lay of the land.
Not that that will be of much use.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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BajaNomad
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The current post #1 of this thread states:
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
He is not an avid fisherman either... he just loves Baja, the people, the views...
He does not use plastic, he has enough cash to last him awhile.
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When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
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We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
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BajaBlanca
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The camera and how charged it is, is brilliant.
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micah202
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
The camera and how charged it is, is brilliant. |
...could be helpful,,though I don't suppose I'm the only guy who carries chargers and 120v adapters 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by micah202
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
The camera and how charged it is, is brilliant. |
...could be helpful,,though I don't suppose I'm the only guy who carries chargers and 120v adapters |
Or, extra batteries when away from the grid. [in fact, always]
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BajaNomad
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From El Mexicano:
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
– John Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
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Skipjack Joe
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Clothing
IMO the best thing to come out of this afternoon's brainstorming had to do with clothing.
When Gary left the States he must have packed clean clothes and underwear. We all do that. There are no exceptions to this. They may have been neatly
packed or not but everything should have been clean. If he had met his end within that first week then most of his clothes should still be clean.
Especially the underwear. For a 3 week trip I would assume that he would pack 10 pairs or more. If say 8 are still in perfect condition and 2 are used
then he probably didn't last long. If, however, he stayed on the beach for 4 months then I would expect few articles of underwear to still look like
they came out of the washer.
So the shape of the clothes they find could provide important clues about time.
That's assuming that nobody in the fish camps will do the laundry for you. I've never met one that does.
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EnsenadaDr
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No offense Skipjack, but if the man remembered to change his underwear on a daily basis over the course of 4 months he should remember to call his
family as well. No excuse for not keeping in touch with his family that is worried sick about him if indeed his mental status is intact.
[Edited on 4-12-2014 by EnsenadaDr]
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Mulegena
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The Family Search in May:
Divide into Spanish-speaking teams who will act in concert, but separately; communication by long-range 2-way radio.
- In the evening when the fishermen are in-camp visit each camp with a list of pre-determined questions, photos of Gary, etc.
- Same for the ranches.
- Write down findings for each ranch/fish camp on a clipboard.
- Gather together and confer.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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chuckie
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Finally! Some sense of organization is coming into play....Way ta go!
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DENNIS
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GOOOD MORNING BAJA CALIFORNIA
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Nice to see you folks are still micro-managing an investigation which will only take place in your heads.
Hey.........is anyone going to bring up the use of Cadaver Dogs, or are we still too busy checking skid marks on underwear?
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
GOOOD MORNING BAJA CALIFORNIA
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Nice to see you folks are still micro-managing an investigation which will only take place in your heads.
Hey.........is anyone going to bring up the use of Cadaver Dogs, or are we still too busy checking skid marks on underwear? |
At least they are trying to help.
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Especially the underwear. For a 3 week trip I would assume that he would pack 10 pairs or more. |
except that not everyone wears underwear, especially if they wear surf trunks all day and night! 
now, socks are a different story. wear em once then turn them inside out and wear them again. then they are dirty!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
At least they are trying to help. |
Of course they are, but this has turned into a "frustrated sleuth" parlor game competition and has long ago left the realm of reality.
What's your take on the skidmarks, Jon? Do you think an intensive lab analysis will give us a trail of eateries to use in establishing his path of
travel along with a time frame based on the "specials of the day" evidence , or should we just stick with the "bread crumb" method?
Pardon my insensitivity to all good efforts here, but 76 pages of home CSI bantering drove me to it.
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[Edited on 4-12-2014 by DENNIS]
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wessongroup
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at a boy
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EnsenadaDr
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Dennis you make fun of everything. I think Skipjack had a good idea, just that if Gary's mentation was to the point that he could take care of his
personal care, he would have most likely called his family. What is this dividing Spanish speakers going to the fish camps? From the postings here
many of the eyewitnesses during that time said there was no way Gary could have passed on those roads being inundated with rain. Besides, Lizard Lips
and I are Bilingual, not all Gringos are si or no persons. Even Dennis could drum up a conversation.
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EnsenadaDr
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Dennis you know you could always turn on the old boob tube and watch your daily news instead of following something that to you appears to be nonsense
and speculation. You are a free man to pick and choose how you spend your valuable time. | Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
At least they are trying to help. |
Of course they are, but this has turned into a "frustrated sleuth" parlor game competition and has long ago left the realm of reality.
What's your take on the skidmarks, Jon? Do you think an intensive lab analysis will give us a trail of eateries to use in establishing his path of
travel along with a time frame based on the "specials of the day" evidence , or should we just stick with the "bread crumb" method?
Pardon my insensitivity to all good efforts here, but 76 pages of home CSI bantering drove me to it.
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