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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 08:19 AM


Dennis got his daily rise out of everyone and is now out attending to his daily chores. Don't take his comments too seriously.
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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 08:26 AM


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..........just that if Gary's mentation was to the point that he could take care of his personal care, he would have most likely called his family.


....mannnn,,,,gotta agree with Dennis---there's so many times I wonder if I missed the announcement that there's a prize for the right guess!

.....''"frustrated sleuth" parlor game competition'' indeed!




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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 08:39 AM


You can all make fun of the responses here but how many of you spent considerable time on true crime documentaries or books? Over the years I have read hundreds and the answers don't come many times from the experts they are by people or investigators going over and over the same thing for days, and even years until one seemingly insignificant fact stares them in the face and leads them to the answer. I encourage any and all of you to put your two cents in and don't feel you are stupid doing this. I also don't think anyone should make fun of anyone's ideas either.
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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 08:42 AM


Dennis has sunk to the level of his own underwear.....



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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 08:42 AM


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...........I also don't think anyone should make fun of anyone's ideas either.


...maybe if you get beyond asserting your guesses as if they are facts!!


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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 08:45 AM


Sorry if you have misinterpreted my guesses as being facts, the missing person's case would have already been solved.
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...........I also don't think anyone should make fun of anyone's ideas either.


...maybe if you get beyond asserting your guesses as if they are facts!!


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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 08:48 AM


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..if only someone actually -listened- to you!!!:(
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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 08:53 AM


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You can all make fun of the responses here but how many of you spent considerable time on true crime documentaries or books? Over the years I have read hundreds and the answers don't come many times from the experts they are by people or investigators going over and over the same thing for days, and even years until one seemingly insignificant fact stares them in the face and leads them to the answer. I encourage any and all of you to put your two cents in and don't feel you are stupid doing this. I also don't think anyone should make fun of anyone's ideas either.

I admit it. I'm sofa-king stew-ped :lol:




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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 09:00 AM


Say what you will. But the freshness of clothing is a good indicator of how long the journey had been. If you can't get past the underwear thing than move on to other articles of clothing.
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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 09:06 AM


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You can all make fun of the responses here but how many of you spent considerable time on true crime documentaries or books? Over the years I have read hundreds and the answers don't come many times from the experts they are by people or investigators going over and over the same thing for days, and even years until one seemingly insignificant fact stares them in the face and leads them to the answer. I encourage any and all of you to put your two cents in and don't feel you are stupid doing this. I also don't think anyone should make fun of anyone's ideas either.

I admit it. I'm sofa-king stew-ped :lol:



...yeh,,I was going t'let that one slide!!





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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 09:09 AM


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Nice to see you folks are still micro-managing an investigation which will only take place in your heads.
Hey.........is anyone going to bring up the use of Cadaver Dogs, or are we still too busy checking skid marks on underwear?


On the bright side, this thread is just about guaranteed to finally displace "Turtle bust" as the most replied to thread ever. It's #3 right now and should overtake Playa Buenaventura by next week as #2. :lol:
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Have a great day to all of you. God Bless Gary's family and all of you. Life is short. Enjoy, love, laugh and embrace every last second on this precious Earth.
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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 09:19 AM


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You can all make fun of the responses here but how many of you spent considerable time on true crime documentaries or books? Over the years I have read hundreds and the answers don't come many times from the experts they are by people or investigators going over and over the same thing for days, and even years until one seemingly insignificant fact stares them in the face and leads them to the answer. I encourage any and all of you to put your two cents in and don't feel you are stupid doing this. I also don't think anyone should make fun of anyone's ideas either.


On the contrary, this online detective work is mental masturbation! Nothing will be solved until someone goes to the site and investigates, talks to to local people, and searches around in the scrub to find the body. much theorizing, but no data collection! For example, someone needs to go inspect his panties and count skid marks, rather than theorizing about number of skid marks when you don't even have the most basic knowledge of whether he wore boxers or tightly whities or went commando!

Lots of retirees here, this seems like a good excuse for them to get out in the desert, drive their atv toys and exercise their gray matter!
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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 09:31 AM


Its all good Goat. The underwear thing is a stretch but anything is welcome. I just got off the phone with the family and they are now making arrangements to obtain the 4 Runner and conduct a search when they are there. I have to coordinate with the rancher for him to be there at the same time. They read every post and know that the beach has to be covered and more flyers need to be posted in and around and all over Catavina and the beach camps.

As soon as I know exactly when they are going down I will post it.
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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 09:32 AM


Wow, this is really declining. I'm outta here.
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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 09:46 AM


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Say what you will. But the freshness of clothing is a good indicator of how long the journey had been. If you can't get past the underwear thing than move on to other articles of clothing.


I agree. Not so much on the underwear, as I and most[male] beach campers do, live in our swim trunks sans undies for the entire trip; but on other articles of clothing like t-shirts. I personally change my shirts once a day, and bring enough for the length of the planned trip, plus a couple extras. The clean ones are neatly folded in the suit case the dirty ones shoved into a plastic trash bag for the trip home. This could very well be a way to track the number of days he was actually camping. Of course, he could have washed his clothes in the ocean, but they will have some salt residue on them.

It's not necessary fool proof for tracking days out, as one of the guys I go camping with will often wear the same shirt (even when covered in fish blood, food, and who knows what) for days and days; but that's him.




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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 09:49 AM


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Nice to see you folks are still micro-managing an investigation which will only take place in your heads.


This is rich! I'm retired in Mexico so I have free time. Dennis by September 27th. you had already posted 27 times to this thread when you told us that you had promised to not post anymore useless information here. After that you only posted one hundred and twenty-nine more times!

On March 29th. you posted: "Why all the useless speculation?" however, you seem to have answered your own question six days earlier when you said:

"Total nonsense. This board is designed for discussion and nothing that is allowed through the gates is sacrosanct or immune from speculation and comparison.
If low key is what people want,...perhaps there shouldn't be so many objections to others' ideas."

After 156 posts to this thread, it seems to me that the more you talk, the more you contradict yourself. Just speculating.

(I have to say that all the speculation has caused me to re-think the possible subjective dangers of my going into an unknown desert searching for a possible narco body dump.)




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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 09:58 AM


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Say what you will. But the freshness of clothing is a good indicator of how long the journey had been. If you can't get past the underwear thing than move on to other articles of clothing.


I agree. Not so much on the underwear, as I and most[male] beach campers do, live in our swim trunks sans undies for the entire trip; but on other articles of clothing like t-shirts. I personally change my shirts once a day, and bring enough for the length of the planned trip, plus a couple extras. The clean ones are neatly folded in the suit case the dirty ones shoved into a plastic trash bag for the trip home. This could very well be a way to track the number of days he was actually camping. Of course, he could have washed his clothes in the ocean, but they will have some salt residue on them.

It's not necessary fool proof for tracking days out, as one of the guys I go camping with will often wear the same shirt (even when covered in fish blood, food, and who knows what) for days and days; but that's him.


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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 10:24 AM


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Its all good Goat. The underwear thing is a stretch but anything is welcome. I just got off the phone with the family and they are now making arrangements to obtain the 4 Runner and conduct a search when they are there. I have to coordinate with the rancher for him to be there at the same time. They read every post and know that the beach has to be covered and more flyers need to be posted in and around and all over Catavina and the beach camps.

As soon as I know exactly when they are going down I will post it.


Fliers should also be posted at what is known as the "Salón". This is used as a community meeting place for the entire area. If the community meets here on Sundays for church, or even a couple days a month for other reasons, it may be a good way to contact some of the people who rarely go to "town".

DavidK kindly plotted the location for the Salón, it’s not far from the road to Canoas off the Faro San Jose Road, so they are in the general area. They can’t miss it; it’s the only cement block building out there. Don’t pull into the parking area, park on the road and walk; we have gotten flats in the past from all the nails and glass, at least that’s what we blamed the flats on. GPS coordinates for the Salón are: 29.468506, -114.883711
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[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 10:26 AM


The man took medication to regulate his blood pressure. When they are able to check the car for personal belongings and if there are any meds left, then likely he died closer to September than March. Family can check medication refill dates and amounts so it can be figured approximately how long before meds ran out.


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