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[*] posted on 12-24-2009 at 12:02 PM
Saran Gas ?


Is that some sort of attempt to make fun of Sarah Palin's Flatulence ?

While I can't claim to be any expert on SARIN Gas, an aerial delivery from South of the Border in a stolen plane seems to me to be a little unlikely and not the most efficient bang for the (volume) Buck. I could be wrong. I've been enlightened by Conspiracy Experts before pointing out Amazing things that mostly nobody (not under confinement for their own protection) would think of.

I confess to being a little unclear why these well-organized and well-funded terrorists would not simply steal the light aircraft IN the United States. They'd have a MUCH bigger selection and not need worry about getting through the ADIZ. Although it's been a lot of years since I was active in General Aviation, security at local airports wasn't great then and I don't see where there have been a lot of changes.

Don't take any of this as Criticism. Count me as one of those prospective Conspiratorial Allies ready to take the plunge.

What's your position on Fluoride ? Mixed with Sarin or not ?
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[*] posted on 12-24-2009 at 12:39 PM


Bill: You and I know that if someone is determined they will get the job Done Flouride or Not.

I am not into Conspiracy Theorys: However I did do an long through Investigation in Hollywood where a State Employee was taking $5,000 a whack to get their name moved up on the Local Cadilac Dealers list for New Cadilac.

Loading an Aircraft would be easier from South of the Border. Especially if close to a large City.
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[*] posted on 12-24-2009 at 02:26 PM
Hollywood Hijinks ?


Skeet ?

What does "I did do an long through Investigation" involve ?
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[*] posted on 12-24-2009 at 02:37 PM


i think it's kinda like if you get stopped by TSA and they pull you into secondary at the boarding gate......and they have to do a "long through investigation" rectally (rectumally? sp?) to see what you might be hiding up there.....:lol::lol::lol:



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[*] posted on 12-24-2009 at 02:56 PM


Mr. Bill

I forgot!
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[*] posted on 12-24-2009 at 03:45 PM


:rolleyes:

I just hope you run all those letters and forms through spell check, otherwise the authorities might think you are a foreigner. ;)

If you think about those jugs of avgas they used it makes one think about where they filled those up. GN? Ensenada? I mean how easy and how available is avgas down there. Is it just that easy to go to an airport or what and fill up?

Inasmuch I wouldn't think it too hard to check that out by the authorities.
Still, these guys obviously have an inside. Too bad that GN checkpoint doesn't check. They might have seen the jugs of gas go through. I doubt that any out-of -towners would know the shortcut around the stateline checkpoint.

They must have some really lame investigators that work the stolen airplane thang. Oh, and that is some radar installation!:lol:




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[*] posted on 12-24-2009 at 03:53 PM


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I doubt that any out-of -towners would know the shortcut around the stateline checkpoint.


c'mon Sharks!

even I know about that one!




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[*] posted on 12-24-2009 at 04:21 PM


Comon you guys ! this is Baja Sur Mx.!

There is no organized Investigation at all. No one is paid to Investigate Aircraft Thefts in Mexico. Especially if it is Americano!!

If you can get a good Accident Investigation with the help of the NTSB it has to involve Airliners!

It is very easy to go to Loreto Aiport and buy Aviation Fuel. Just pay the guy who is handling the Pump a couple of estra Bucks, same at any location. he will not ask what you are going to do with it.

Question Sharks: have you ever seen an approach or take off from the Old Airstrip at the Hotel Mulege??

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[*] posted on 12-24-2009 at 04:39 PM
Dinero Exchange ?


"Just pay the guy who is handling the Pump a couple of estra Bucks, same at any location .........."

Are those available at ANY Cambio or only special ones ?
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[*] posted on 12-24-2009 at 04:48 PM


Any Place in Mexico if you want something done just Flash a couple of $20 Bills and it is done.
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[*] posted on 12-24-2009 at 05:07 PM
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Cars can have low-jack systems installed so they can be found in the event of theft.
Why not planes?
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[*] posted on 12-24-2009 at 06:00 PM


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Cars can have low-jack systems installed so they can be found in the event of theft.
Why not planes?


Marla, see my post at:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=43241


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[*] posted on 12-25-2009 at 12:28 AM


Would it be to much to ask for the Mexican Army or Federal police to set up a bait plane in a place known where it will get jacked by the narco guys? How hard would this be. I'm just trying to think outside the box. The cops in the US place highly wanted "bait cars" in neighborhoods with a high incidence of car thefts and they catch a lot of the perpetrators. :no:
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[*] posted on 12-25-2009 at 06:20 AM


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Mr. Billikins:

Since 911 there have been several reports done" Homeland Security has determined that Nuke Plants are Safe from attack from small Planes.
There is a General Aviation Govt. program right now but most of what it does is Airports and Crop Dusters.

Googel up the locations of recent Aircraft Thefts.
I think there will be an increase in these Thefts.

I would think that an Anti Theft Device would be a good Selling Point for all new and used Cessna 210's and similar aircraft.

As far as attacks on large groups of people, it does not take much Saran Gas in a low flying aircraft from TJ to spread trouble all over San Diego, El Paso, Tucson.
And Bill I will lay you a bet with good odds that I can take a plane to Mexciali and back and never get Busted!!

Bill There are already Terroists in Mexico. as well as in the States.


Skeet's, Just googled the small craft thing with regards to nuke's.. not sure about their conclusion... what about 660 Model Turbo Thrush.. that guy can carry a load.. just wondering..




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[*] posted on 12-25-2009 at 09:15 AM


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Would it be to much to ask for the Mexican Army or Federal police to set up a bait plane in a place known where it will get jacked by the narco guys? How hard would this be. I'm just trying to think outside the box. The cops in the US place highly wanted "bait cars" in neighborhoods with a high incidence of car thefts and they catch a lot of the perpetrators. :no:


That would be entrapment. Their court appointed ACLU attorney would get it thrown out of court.......oh, wait, that would only happen in the US....sorry, as you were...:lol::lol:..dt




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[*] posted on 12-25-2009 at 10:34 AM
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[*] posted on 12-26-2009 at 10:17 AM


did you lift that image off Scheme Designers website?
looks like one of his designs. Craig Barnett.

i wish i could hire you do do my website. you do a lot of very cool stuff with graphics.




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[*] posted on 12-26-2009 at 02:28 PM


Captain Mike...Ssssshhhhh don't tell anyone where I got the plane from. As far as computer graphics I'm not good at all. I just bought a program called Easy Gif Animator:HEREYou can do the same thing I do with this program. It does take some getting used to though. You too can make your Avatar airplane go from this to this

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[*] posted on 12-26-2009 at 09:05 PM


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Would it be to much to ask for the Mexican Army or Federal police to set up a bait plane in a place known where it will get jacked by the narco guys? How hard would this be. I'm just trying to think outside the box. The cops in the US place highly wanted "bait cars" in neighborhoods with a high incidence of car thefts and they catch a lot of the perpetrators. :no:


In so many instances in Mexico, this tactic would be so successful that I have often asked myself why isn't it being done by law enforcement?

And the conclusion I keep reaching is.............law enforcement itself must have a vested interest in many of these crimes continuing.

It's the only plausible explanation besides sheer cowardice.:?:




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[*] posted on 12-27-2009 at 10:50 AM
Never Discount Cowardice


Wherever the Cops might be.

Back in the late 90s into 2002 while I was working down in Hemet, Ca. and keeping an apartment there in what turned out to be a fairly rough neighborhood. I was less than Five minutes from the police station (at normal speeds).

Although they had amazing code and traffic enforcement, on any of the numerous occasions when shots were fired in the area, the response time was VERY SLOW. I remember one occasion when they showed up about 40 minutes later, figuring all would be sorted out by then, I guess. Should have probably told them there was a car out front with an expired tag.

Like they say "When Seconds Count, the Cops are only MINUTES away".
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