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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 04:16 PM


Yes it is a Disease!!

It is the Disease of "No Morals, No Honor, No Respect, No Common Sense of Decency!!

Oh! for the Good ole Days of Honesty, Truth, Respect, Dignity, Kindness,.

We must Hope and yes pray a lot that this next Young Generation will grow up and realize just how much harm their Parents are doing to them.


Just how stupie they are__--- Someone Nuts are making a big Issue out of Texas People wanting to and being able to put the Confererete Flag on their Vehicle License Plate.
It is None of their Business!!!!!

Oh ! Well Someday they will get their Due.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 04:36 PM


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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Yes it is a Disease!!

It is the Disease of "No Morals, No Honor, No Respect, No Common Sense of Decency!!

Oh! for the Good ole Days of Honesty, Truth, Respect, Dignity, Kindness,.

We must Hope and yes pray a lot that this next Young Generation will grow up and realize just how much harm their Parents are doing to them.


Just how stupie they are__--- Someone Nuts are making a big Issue out of Texas People wanting to and being able to put the Confererete Flag on their Vehicle License Plate.
It is None of their Business!!!!!

Oh ! Well Someday they will get their Due.


So "spot" on, skeet. Somewhere along the way something went horribly wrong with this country. Even this uneducated mind can see that this country is being destroyed by the lefties/liberals and the A.C.L.Jew.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 04:45 PM


Skeet----------there is hope------------I have 4 kids-------oldest is a CPA, and teacher on the side at a Christian School-----next oldest is an Attorney (not practicing anymore) and now a Procurement officer for the Piaute Tribe in Bishop------next oldest is a "stay-at-home-dad" with two young kids while Mom (a school teacher) brings home the bacon---------and the youngest is a Director with United Health Care. We had no real problems with any of them.

I think they are all Republican's ( one I am suspicious of, but he is secret about it)

So there is 'hope' for some of them kids out there. :biggrin:

(Yes, I am proud of them) :yes:

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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 05:11 PM


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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Yes it is a Disease!!

It is the Disease of "No Morals, No Honor, No Respect, No Common Sense of Decency!!

Oh! for the Good ole Days of Honesty, Truth, Respect, Dignity, Kindness,.

We must Hope and yes pray a lot that this next Young Generation will grow up and realize just how much harm their Parents are doing to them.


Just how stupie they are__--- Someone Nuts are making a big Issue out of Texas People wanting to and being able to put the Confererete Flag on their Vehicle License Plate.
It is None of their Business!!!!!

Oh ! Well Someday they will get their Due.


So "spot" on, skeet. Somewhere along the way something went horribly wrong with this country. Even this uneducated mind can see that this country is being destroyed by the lefties/liberals and the A.C.L.Jew.


so, we got skeet, who is an avowed racist and thinks the state of TX should be in business of putting symbols of slavery on license plates,...
and we got sanquintinsince73, an antisemite who thinks ACLU is a jewish consiracy,...
and barry who thinks they are all right in his book;...

hard to stomach nomads that sit by and allow such hate to fill nomadlandia
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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 05:14 PM


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so, we got skeet, who is an avowed racist and thinks the state of TX should be in business of putting symbols of slavery on license plates,...


I personally hate the Confederate flag. Yes, hate IS a strong word! :yes:




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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 05:26 PM


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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 05:45 PM
THIS IS GREAT!!


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I love the symbolism, here!:lol:




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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 05:50 PM


goat---------it ain't HATE.

I do not like HATE, and never condone it. I was offended (dismayed a better word) by the reference to "Jews" in several previous posts-------people that HATE are radicals, in my book, and I normally don't even comment on such obviously crazy statements. In my book, Skeet, et all are not HATERS or racists, from what I can tell--------just very upset at what is going on, as I am, and are not taking the PC route to cover up what is obvious to everyone.

Ken------------the world to this day suffers from slave traffic--------it must be stopped, and many are working on that as we write------it is a huge problem. But the Confederate Flag is NOT a symbol of slavery, no matter how you choose to interpret it, it's not. It was the flag of a near-Nation that was very proud of it's heritage, had many things going for it, but did embrace slavery at the time when it was generally excepted--------we know better now, and the South does too. Get over it!!!! You can (I guess?) HATE what happened 150 plus years ago, but what good does it do to HATE all that the flag represents now? Do you HATE the African Nations that still are trafficing in slaves??? or Asia where it is still common??? Maybe so, but I think it is a waste of time and energy to be even thinking about something that is now ancient history in the USA, unless your agenda is to keep that memory alive and festering here. I say condemn what happened back then and keep that history alive, but don't condemn the symbol of a proud part of the Nation and the people of the South today. I simply don't understand that.

Yes, racism exists, and it always will, but it is not prevalent, and it is felt only by radicals that can't, or won't, think straight. I condemn it when it flares up in my presence, but I am not on a crusade as that does more harm than good, IMO.. I try to conduct my life in a good way, but keep out of others business unless it interferes substantially with mine. I wish the Govt. would do the same.

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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 05:54 PM


On the cartoons-------------and the "symbolism is what"????????????

Some are calling for public defunding the PBS because it often represents a point of view that does not represent all tax payers---------why should the public support something that they don't necessarily agree with?? Makes no sense!!!

I personally listen to PBS, and send in my check every year, but I don't think it should be supported with "public money".

Something wrong with that???

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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 07:00 PM


Heck, you might as well hate cotton. Or sugar. Those crops required a labor force that produced the demand for slaves.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 07:41 PM


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But the Confederate Flag is NOT a symbol of slavery, no matter how you choose to interpret it, it's not.


people interpret things differently. it IS
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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 10:02 PM


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But the Confederate Flag is NOT a symbol of slavery, no matter how you choose to interpret it, it's not.


people interpret things differently. it IS


Yes, if that is the way you want to interpret it---------you can make something out of nothing, too, if you so choose. I repeat---to what end???

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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 10:30 PM


I have stopped posting on this thread. My cold is over and I am now out and about. It is however interesting to me that this thread has devolved into a discussion of Racism. The original topic, as I recall, was about Illegal Immigration and whether or not the current focus on this by the Republicans was likely to dissuade Hispanic voters from voting Republican. Do these dots connect?

Is it conceivable that Hispanics might believe that this focus has racist motivation by people on the right wing of the Republican Party?? Sounds like this could not be the case because Racism does not exist on the right wing of the Republican Party if I get the drift of the recent posts. Nope, no racism involved in the Civil War, that was about lowering taxes and deregulating Corporations as I recall my history
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/corporate_accountability/history...

There has been no history of racism toward Mexicans
http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/articles/mexico/mexican-amer...

How could anyone see America as racist?? We did after all make slaveholding illegal, gave the Native perfectly good land to live on and helped them march to reach that land http://www.cherokee-nc.com/index.php?page=62

and apologized to the Japanese Americans we interred during WWII
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/jun/13/local/me-59411

and apologized for the Tuskegee syphilis study http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

and there is certainly no structural racism in America, everyone has the same chance as you do!
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/07/26-2

and America has never engaged in wholesale slaughter of people of other races
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP13.HTM

and Republican candidates are very supportive of plight of minorities
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/11/herman-cain-racism_...

and Republicans would never engage in blatant racism against minorities like Hispanics
http://moleprogressive.blogspot.com/2008/09/blatant-republic...
http://www.entertainedorganizer.com/2011/10/republican-racis...

How could Mexican Americans feel that they are being discriminated against by God fearing, flag waving, proud American Republicans? Impossible.


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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 11:09 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Quote:
Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Yes it is a Disease!!

It is the Disease of "No Morals, No Honor, No Respect, No Common Sense of Decency!!

Oh! for the Good ole Days of Honesty, Truth, Respect, Dignity, Kindness,.

We must Hope and yes pray a lot that this next Young Generation will grow up and realize just how much harm their Parents are doing to them.


Just how stupie they are__--- Someone Nuts are making a big Issue out of Texas People wanting to and being able to put the Confererete Flag on their Vehicle License Plate.
It is None of their Business!!!!!

Oh ! Well Someday they will get their Due.


So "spot" on, skeet. Somewhere along the way something went horribly wrong with this country. Even this uneducated mind can see that this country is being destroyed by the lefties/liberals and the A.C.L.Jew.


so, we got skeet, who is an avowed racist and thinks the state of TX should be in business of putting symbols of slavery on license plates,...
and we got sanquintinsince73, an antisemite who thinks ACLU is a jewish consiracy,...
and barry who thinks they are all right in his book;...

hard to stomach nomads that sit by and allow such hate to fill nomadlandia


Not a anti-Semite, I believe that we should defend Israel at all cost. It is the American Jews and their anti-Christian agenda that I have a problem with. Read on:

ACLU TOP HEAVY WITH JEWS



Most thinking people know that the American Civil Liberties Union is vehemently anti-Christian. What they don't know is that 3 of 6 of ACLU's top national leaders are liberal Jewish activists.

Although ACLU's executive director, Anthony D. Romero, is an in-your-face Hispanic homosexual, second in command is Nadine Strossen, Jewish. She was given the "Woman of Distinction" award from the Women's League of Conservative Judaism and the "Women who Dared" award from the National Council of Jewish Women. A member of the Council on Foreign Relations, she is married to Eli M. Noam, professor and founding director of Columbia University's Institute for Tele-Information.

Third in command at ACLU is legal counsel Steven Shapiro. As the legal mastermind of ACLU, he may well wield greatest power. Shapiro commands an army of 90 fulltime lawyers, maintaining an active docket of cases harassing the public expression of Christian values across America.

Geri E. Rozanski, director of affiliate support, is also a Jewish activist. Before joining ACLU, she was director for the large field operation of the American Jewish Committee.

Executive Director Anthony Romero may largely fulfill the role of a token Latino/homosexual figurehead. Ultimately, he may be Gentile window dressing, meant to deflect public attention from the real brains behind the ACLU, Strossen and Shapiro.

Jews behind "Civil Liberties" Fronts

Jews comprise only 2.5 percent of the American population, yet most of the largest anti-Christian "civil liberties" organizations are disproportionately staffed by them:

B'nai B'rith International, initiator of hate crimes laws in Canada, Europe, and Australia is 100 percent Jewish. The same is true of its civil liberties pit bull, ADL.

People for the American Way, founded and directed by left-wing Jewish TV producer Norman Lear, contains a disproportionate number of Jews in its top leadership. Three of eight have Jewish names. Carol Blum is executive vice president and chief operating officer. Elliot Mincberg is senior vice president, general counsel, and legal director. Sharon Lettman is vice president of external affairs and director of national programs and outreach.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, chief antagonist to public display of Judge Roy Moore's 10 Commandments, is even more predominantly Jewish. Its three top leaders are Jews. President and CEO is J. Richard Cohen. Founder and chief trial counsel is Morris Dees. Founder and president emeritus is Joseph J. Levin Jr.

ACLU: Distraction from Real Enemy

For the past 40 years, the evangelical right has found the ACLU the perfect villain for a simple reason: Since it is not perceived as Jewish, they can criticize it without danger of being labeled "anti-Semitic."

The ACLU performs a very devious and useful role as part of the overall conspiracy of Jewish activism against Christianity: It distracts Christians and conservatives from a much greater threat, ADL. The ACLU makes itself conspicuously outrageous, as threatening to Christian values and symbols as can be imagined. This entirely preoccupies the attention of the religious right. As a result, ADL/B'nai B'rith over the last 40 years has been free to develop and put in place their Orwellian "anti-hate laws" throughout the western hemisphere.

Milestones of such erosion of Christian freedom include:

1. Passage of ADL's Hate Crimes Statistics Act of 1990. This gave ADL complete control in America of hate crimes education and enforcement for police, FBI, and the US Justice Department.
2. Passage of ADL hate laws in 46 US states during the past two decades.
3. Creation of thought crimes bureaucracies, outlawing public criticism of homosexuality and Judaism in Canada, Europe, and Australia/New Zealand.
4. Creation of an "Office of Global Anti-Semitism" in the US State Department, making Christians into anti-Semites. (See, "U.S. State Department Says New Testament is 'Anti-Semitic'?")
5. Creation of a vast 55-nation anti-hate bureaucracy in Europe, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. OSCE vows to outlaw "cyberhate," ending free speech and free talk radio on the internet. (See, "Global Hate Crimes Gestapo Being Created")

Failure of Perception and Strategy

Yes, ACLU is busy defending pornographers and litigating against crosses, 10 Commandments in public, and nativity scenes at Christmastime. But in a far more threatening way, taking advantage of the distraction provided by ACLU, ADL has been massively destroying freedom of speech in most of the western industrialized world. To this moment, it has done so unidentified and virtually unresisted by the leaders of Christendom and the new right.

As long as Christian leaders lay blame upon secular humanism, the New World Order, liberalism, or the ACLU and remain afraid to identify the real culprit, liberal Jewish activism, all these Jewish-dominated "civil liberties groups" will continue to harass and enfeeble the church.

With Christian activism so misdirected, Jewish activism, much more focused and relentless, will continue to prevail.
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[*] posted on 10-26-2011 at 05:36 AM


Oh man...I really need to stop going right to 'Todays Posts' for expediancy. Way to early in the morning to stumble on this crap. There's some things I really don't need to know about a person I might come across one day next to a camp fire in a beautiful setting in Baja. The anonimity is concerning. Some of you guys are really frightening!
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[*] posted on 10-26-2011 at 06:19 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Quote:
Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Yes it is a Disease!!

It is the Disease of "No Morals, No Honor, No Respect, No Common Sense of Decency!!

Oh! for the Good ole Days of Honesty, Truth, Respect, Dignity, Kindness,.

We must Hope and yes pray a lot that this next Young Generation will grow up and realize just how much harm their Parents are doing to them.


Just how stupie they are__--- Someone Nuts are making a big Issue out of Texas People wanting to and being able to put the Confererete Flag on their Vehicle License Plate.
It is None of their Business!!!!!

Oh ! Well Someday they will get their Due.


So "spot" on, skeet. Somewhere along the way something went horribly wrong with this country. Even this uneducated mind can see that this country is being destroyed by the lefties/liberals and the A.C.L.Jew.


so, we got skeet, who is an avowed racist and thinks the state of TX should be in business of putting symbols of slavery on license plates,...
and we got sanquintinsince73, an antisemite who thinks ACLU is a jewish consiracy,...
and barry who thinks they are all right in his book;...

hard to stomach nomads that sit by and allow such hate to fill nomadlandia


Not a anti-Semite, I believe that we should defend Israel at all cost. It is the American Jews and their anti-Christian agenda that I have a problem with. Read on:

ACLU TOP HEAVY WITH JEWS



Most thinking people know that the American Civil Liberties Union is vehemently anti-Christian. What they don't know is that 3 of 6 of ACLU's top national leaders are liberal Jewish activists.

Although ACLU's executive director, Anthony D. Romero, is an in-your-face Hispanic homosexual, second in command is Nadine Strossen, Jewish. She was given the "Woman of Distinction" award from the Women's League of Conservative Judaism and the "Women who Dared" award from the National Council of Jewish Women. A member of the Council on Foreign Relations, she is married to Eli M. Noam, professor and founding director of Columbia University's Institute for Tele-Information.

Third in command at ACLU is legal counsel Steven Shapiro. As the legal mastermind of ACLU, he may well wield greatest power. Shapiro commands an army of 90 fulltime lawyers, maintaining an active docket of cases harassing the public expression of Christian values across America.

Geri E. Rozanski, director of affiliate support, is also a Jewish activist. Before joining ACLU, she was director for the large field operation of the American Jewish Committee.

Executive Director Anthony Romero may largely fulfill the role of a token Latino/homosexual figurehead. Ultimately, he may be Gentile window dressing, meant to deflect public attention from the real brains behind the ACLU, Strossen and Shapiro.

Jews behind "Civil Liberties" Fronts

Jews comprise only 2.5 percent of the American population, yet most of the largest anti-Christian "civil liberties" organizations are disproportionately staffed by them:

B'nai B'rith International, initiator of hate crimes laws in Canada, Europe, and Australia is 100 percent Jewish. The same is true of its civil liberties pit bull, ADL.

People for the American Way, founded and directed by left-wing Jewish TV producer Norman Lear, contains a disproportionate number of Jews in its top leadership. Three of eight have Jewish names. Carol Blum is executive vice president and chief operating officer. Elliot Mincberg is senior vice president, general counsel, and legal director. Sharon Lettman is vice president of external affairs and director of national programs and outreach.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, chief antagonist to public display of Judge Roy Moore's 10 Commandments, is even more predominantly Jewish. Its three top leaders are Jews. President and CEO is J. Richard Cohen. Founder and chief trial counsel is Morris Dees. Founder and president emeritus is Joseph J. Levin Jr.

ACLU: Distraction from Real Enemy

For the past 40 years, the evangelical right has found the ACLU the perfect villain for a simple reason: Since it is not perceived as Jewish, they can criticize it without danger of being labeled "anti-Semitic."

The ACLU performs a very devious and useful role as part of the overall conspiracy of Jewish activism against Christianity: It distracts Christians and conservatives from a much greater threat, ADL. The ACLU makes itself conspicuously outrageous, as threatening to Christian values and symbols as can be imagined. This entirely preoccupies the attention of the religious right. As a result, ADL/B'nai B'rith over the last 40 years has been free to develop and put in place their Orwellian "anti-hate laws" throughout the western hemisphere.

Milestones of such erosion of Christian freedom include:

1. Passage of ADL's Hate Crimes Statistics Act of 1990. This gave ADL complete control in America of hate crimes education and enforcement for police, FBI, and the US Justice Department.
2. Passage of ADL hate laws in 46 US states during the past two decades.
3. Creation of thought crimes bureaucracies, outlawing public criticism of homosexuality and Judaism in Canada, Europe, and Australia/New Zealand.
4. Creation of an "Office of Global Anti-Semitism" in the US State Department, making Christians into anti-Semites. (See, "U.S. State Department Says New Testament is 'Anti-Semitic'?")
5. Creation of a vast 55-nation anti-hate bureaucracy in Europe, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. OSCE vows to outlaw "cyberhate," ending free speech and free talk radio on the internet. (See, "Global Hate Crimes Gestapo Being Created")

Failure of Perception and Strategy

Yes, ACLU is busy defending pornographers and litigating against crosses, 10 Commandments in public, and nativity scenes at Christmastime. But in a far more threatening way, taking advantage of the distraction provided by ACLU, ADL has been massively destroying freedom of speech in most of the western industrialized world. To this moment, it has done so unidentified and virtually unresisted by the leaders of Christendom and the new right.

As long as Christian leaders lay blame upon secular humanism, the New World Order, liberalism, or the ACLU and remain afraid to identify the real culprit, liberal Jewish activism, all these Jewish-dominated "civil liberties groups" will continue to harass and enfeeble the church.

With Christian activism so misdirected, Jewish activism, much more focused and relentless, will continue to prevail.



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[*] posted on 10-26-2011 at 08:12 AM


Hey, no racism here. Why would Mexicans not vote Republican?

"Although ACLU's executive director, Anthony D. Romero, is an in-your-face Hispanic homosexual".

This sentence uses race (Hispanic) and sexual orientation (homosexual) to begin it's rant against the ACLU. So from this writers perspective both Hispanic and Homosexual people are bad.

I can't see why Hispanics would not vote Republican and see their anti-immigration actions as racist. Can you?

Thanks for clarifying this sanquintinsince73

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[*] posted on 10-26-2011 at 08:16 AM


Quote:
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Hey, no racism here. Why would Mexicans not vote Republican?

"Although ACLU's executive director, Anthony D. Romero, is an in-your-face Hispanic homosexual".

This sentence uses race (Hispanic) and sexual orientation (homosexual) to begin it's rant against the ACLU. So from this writers perspective both Hispanic and Homosexual people are bad.

I can't see why Hispanics would not vote Republican and see their anti-immigration actions as racist. Can you?

Thanks for clarifying this sanquintinsince73

Iflyfish


Executive Director Anthony Romero may largely fulfill the role of a token Latino/homosexual figurehead. Ultimately, he may be Gentile window dressing, meant to deflect public attention from the real brains behind the ACLU, Strossen and Shapiro.

I think that this is what the article was trying to convey.
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[*] posted on 10-26-2011 at 08:22 AM


sanquintinsince73

Gee, guess I read it wrong.

"Although ACLU's executive director, Anthony D. Romero, is an in-your-face Hispanic homosexual".

You are right of course, no Hispanic or Homosexual would read this as racist or sexist. My bad.

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