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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
..."BFGoodrich Baja T/A
The BFG Baja T/A is purely a desert survivability tire. It's not about trail traction, flexibility, or light weight. The Baja T/A is built to
stay in one piece and hit rocks at 120 mph while under a 6,000 pound, 800 hp, sand-blasting ball of fury known as a Trophy Truck. The Baja T/A
features a virtually bombproof sidewall. There is also a full race-only version that's even stouter, but you'll have to be on the sponsored list to
get a set of those. The BFG Baja T/A can roll down the street fairly smoothly, but the stiff sidewall can cause some flat-spotting on cold mornings.
These are hand-built, purpose-bred tires that don't do much else than what they were designed for. They pack up in mud, don't flex enough or stick
well to rocks and are worthless in snow and ice. But you can't beat 'em for high-speed desert use." |
What are you going to believe, me or your lyin' eyes? 
Seriously, I have personally seen different, but I'm not selling them, and have no dog in being right so believe what you will. If you check the
speeds in a Baja race, the average is nowhere close to 120 mph, and a lot of the terrain is in other than high-speed washes.
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David K
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I am running 32" Dynapro tires, no rub with my stock suspension.
To run taller tires I would need a lift... no money for that and since the only road I drive were a lift would prevent damage is the Mision Santa
Maria run... and I already have damaged by rear bumper when the truck was new with 31" tires, no big need to spend $$ that I don't have just to run a
taller tire.
I have a min. 9.5" of ground clearance now. That serves me well... at this time with 95% of my driving being on paved roads. I have just one vehicle
that must do everything for me, not just for off road trips... That is why I have a truck that doesn't ever break down... I can't afford two!
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Roberto
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Ken, have you ever tried the Krawler?
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Ken, have you ever tried the Krawler? |
I am moving up to a 35" Tire, but it will need to be a tire that can attain ~45K mi. like the Goodyear MTR/K. The Krawler like the bias Swamper
TSL-SX would wear too quickly.
In fact, I ran the TSL-SX for 22K mi. before it was completely worn down. 
YES, EXPENSIVE!
This past weekend, my friend with MTR/Ks was again, UNSTOPPABLE. I have seen these tires work time and again to the point that I know these are right
up my alley . If it wasn't for needing a Mud-Terrain tire, I would go with the Falken AT.
Mike's LJ Rubicon with a new set of Goodyear MTRs with Kevlar
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David K
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That looks like the tire that CG (Chris) popped a rock through just 5 miles from Santa Ynez towards Mision Santa Maria...
[Edited on 2-25-2012 by David K]
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Ken Cooke
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Treadwright.com RETREADS (yikes!)
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
That looks like the tire that CG (Chris) popped a rock through just 5 miles from Santa Ynez towards Mision Santa Maria...
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Those were retread tires with BFG sidewalls and imitation Goodyear treads.
Guard Dog (formerly MTG): The Guard Dog is an On/Off-Road Maximum Traction tire developed to meet the needs of pickup truck and sport utility vehicle
drivers who desire the looks and performance associated with rugged, off-road driving. Guard Dog Combines a uniform center lug pattern for better
wear with a wider and more open outer lug pattern for maximum off-road traction.
Kedge Grip: Our own unique blend of crushed (recycled) glass and crushed walnut shell particle blended into our full grade truck rubber. Kedge Grip
acts in a twofold way; first the walnut shell is designed to come out leaving small (approximately 1 mm) size pits in the tread surface that will act
as additional siping and create more traction edges to grip the road. The second is the crushed glass which is designed to stay in longer and create
a gritty surface to help anchor you to the road. Does it really work? Don’t take our word for it, read some of the testimonials. Also, check out
the 4Wheeler magazine (though under a different name that we are not allowed to use any longer due to trademark issues) in the August 2009 issue.
They consistently had excellent results with our Kedge Grip.
MSRP: $145.00
Online Price: $135.00
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wessongroup
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Are these possible ... going to check out what they cost.. just for fun
Thanks for the great pic's .. that is one steep "road"
http://www.neatorama.com/2009/09/10/airless-tires-for-milita...
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David K
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That is the road to and beyond Mision Santa Maria! The Widowmaker included!!
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wessongroup
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Sent the Company an email ... asked if the could be purchased for "off road use" in Baja ..
Will be interested to hear what they have to say ...
Big time Defense Company ... locked up with DOD
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Barry A.
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Those are one ugly tire!!!!!
Barry
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Ken Cooke
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'CG' plans on the Wild Peak!
I spent the weekend with 'CG' and he discussed tire choice. His friend Tom (Club Zopilotos) is buying the BFG AT/KOs on his newly purchased Ford
Explorer. In exchange, 'CG' will buy Wild Peak tires for this vehicle that he plans to use as his Baja Exploration vehicle.
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I just spent 4 days in Death Valley running Sperry Wash, Echo Canyon from the Nevada side, Titus Canyon and Goler wash by Barker Ranch (Charlie
Mansons hideout) from the east side on a new set of BFG AT KO tires no problems. Even the Echo Canyon water falls could stop me.
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Ken Cooke
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That sounds great, TW! I liked the street ride of the BFG AT/KOs, but the traction off-road - particularly in the swamp section of the Mission
Impossible trail was lacking. Its all a compromise either way you go.
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I have BFG all terrain tires on my 2007 2WD Toyota Highlander. They look great, lots of tread remaining. No serious off road use, maybe 3000 miles on
nice dirt roads. I have 55,000 miles on these, one flat tire.
10,000 - 15,000 miles remaining I would guess. Worked well for me.
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Ken Cooke
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I'm real eager to hear what CG thinks of the Wild Peak tires. His vehicle now has a set of BFG AT/KO tires which he is removing, because as he
repeated throughout our conversation - "In Baja, you need a tire with a 3 ply sidewall. That's what I like about the Wild Peak - It has a
3 ply sidewall, and I like what I read about the tire on the JK Experience as well as in the magazines."
I can't wait to hear what he says about these tires. He has run everything from BFG Krawlers, to Interco IROC's to 2 Ply Pro-Comp X-Terrains, to
retread GenWright tires. So, his opinion is golden with me regarding these tires.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The Baja TA is the racing tire, not DOT approved for highway use... I knew. I think only General makes a DOT approved tire that looks almost identicle
to their racing tire... The Grabber (with red letters). |
FYI - that's not entirely true. There is more than one Baja T/A. The racers get a "special" version, and it does not have a DOT number on it. You can
buy another version, based on that one, that does have the DOT # on it. I think it retails for about $800/tire.
The retail version is Kevlar-belted, at last word. The racing tire ... who knows.
At least that's my understanding - but what do I know, I'm not a racer.
[Edited on 2-22-2012 by Roberto] |
Very true, Roberto... there are a few different versions of the Baja T/A. Under the Baja T/A line, there are what they call "projects" that are the
less agressive tread; some that are kevlar reinforced (KR) which is what a lot of the trophy trucks run, and they also make a DOT version that is not
KR. There is also the more agressive tread which is still a Baja T/A (pictured below) that is not KR as well and has a DOT stamp on them. This is what
I run. They are great except for when you pick up a piece of re-bar!!!
These are a great tire!!! Maybe not for the jeep crowd (rock crawling), but for buggies they are super reliable. I've put thousands of miles on Baja
T/A's in Baja with only one major flat (above). Even still, it didn't go flat - it just had an annoying "thump" as the tire went around!
"Plan your life as if you are going to live forever. Live your life as if you are going to die tomorrow." - Carlos Fiesta
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Maderita
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
...His vehicle now has a set of BFG AT/KO tires which he is removing, because as he repeated throughout our conversation - "In Baja, you
need a tire with a 3 ply sidewall. ..." |
Is that implying that the BFG AT/KO does not have 3 plies?
My understanding is that all BFG AT/KO's have 3 polyester plies. BFG coined their construction "Tri-Guard."
Just looked at my Jeep's 33"x12.5" BFG AT/KO's. Yes, 3 plies, embossed on the sidewall.
Of course, the number of plies doesn't tell the whole story; there are many variables.
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Tires? No bigee! Anybody can get a flat tire. Have seen some dogs that will bite the sidewall and flatten a tire.
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Ken Cooke
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Says and Does are two diff things
| Quote: | Originally posted by Maderita
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
...His vehicle now has a set of BFG AT/KO tires which he is removing, because as he repeated throughout our conversation - "In Baja, you
need a tire with a 3 ply sidewall. ..." |
Of course, the number of plies doesn't tell the whole story; there are many variables. |
Chris is concerned mainly about reliability if he is solo in the Baja backcountry. BFG ATs don't have a great track record for reliability, so he is
selling the set of tires and bolting on a new set of Falken Wild Peaks instead.
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Ken Cooke
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Rockin' my new Falken Wild Peak AT t-shirt!
Thanks to all of my industry connections, I was able to score this cool Falken Wild Peak clothing! No, I am not a paid representative for Falken. I
just want to say, "BUY THEIR WILD PEAK TIRES! EVERY ONE OF THEM!!!"
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