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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 06:33 PM


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So, let me get this right. It's ok for you to make unsubstantiated statements like you did about Reagan and taxes and I am supposed to not refute them with facts? Just checking.

I wish I could share your enthusiasm about more ice pack this year. Can I be glad about that and still not see this particular individual finding as evidence that global warming is a hoax perpetrated on the public by Al Gore?

Is it ok If I believe, as a majority of scientists who study the phenomenon do, that we will see the affects of GLOBAL temperature rise by increasingly dramatic weather events i.e. more hurricanes, torential rains, tornadoes, warming ocean currents, rising sea levels? If it's ok for me to believe the overwhelming findings of climatologists then I assume you can see why i and others may not share your enthusiasm any more than we would be enthusiastic about a grossly obese person refusing an extra cookie.

Is it ok for you to post statements that are not true and then change the subject and not respond to the corrections? A simple 'Thank you" would be appreciated by this writer, who is helping you not to appear so ignorant by repeating untrue statements. Consider it a gift amigo.

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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 06:59 PM


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So, let me get this right. It's ok for you to make unsubstantiated statements like you did about Reagan and taxes and I am supposed to not refute them with facts? Just checking.

I wish I could share your enthusiasm about more ice pack this year. Can I be glad about that and still not see this particular individual finding as evidence that global warming is a hoax perpetrated on the public by Al Gore?

Is it ok If I believe, as a majority of scientists who study the phenomenon do, that we will see the affects of GLOBAL temperature rise by increasingly dramatic weather events i.e. more hurricanes, torential rains, tornadoes, warming ocean currents, rising sea levels? If it's ok for me to believe the overwhelming findings of climatologists then I assume you can see why i and others may not share your enthusiasm any more than we would be enthusiastic about a grossly obese person refusing an extra cookie.

Is it ok for you to post statements that are not true and then change the subject and not respond to the corrections? A simple 'Thank you" would be appreciated by this writer, who is helping you not to appear so ignorant by repeating untrue statements. Consider it a gift amigo.

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:yes::yes: But I fear the well presented gift may be rejected.




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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 08:12 PM


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So, let me get this right. It's ok for you to make unsubstantiated statements like you did about Reagan and taxes and I am supposed to not refute them with facts? Just checking.

I wish I could share your enthusiasm about more ice pack this year. Can I be glad about that and still not see this particular individual finding as evidence that global warming is a hoax perpetrated on the public by Al Gore?

Is it ok If I believe, as a majority of scientists who study the phenomenon do, that we will see the affects of GLOBAL temperature rise by increasingly dramatic weather events i.e. more hurricanes, torential rains, tornadoes, warming ocean currents, rising sea levels? If it's ok for me to believe the overwhelming findings of climatologists then I assume you can see why i and others may not share your enthusiasm any more than we would be enthusiastic about a grossly obese person refusing an extra cookie.

Is it ok for you to post statements that are not true and then change the subject and not respond to the corrections? A simple 'Thank you" would be appreciated by this writer, who is helping you not to appear so ignorant by repeating untrue statements. Consider it a gift amigo.

Iflyfish


Ditto from me too. Well said Iflyfish!!! I will leave it at that.
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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 08:26 PM


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*Can't we just discuss the ice pack getting bigger the very year some said it would be gone?
*Can't we be happy that nature is stronger than man, but that man can learn from his mistakes and do better?
*Can't we see that climate changes, and it is a NATURAL thing, and raising taxes does not change it one way or another.
*Can't we be adult enough to have different opinions and listen to each other without getting upset or nasty?
*Can't we just enjoy reading Baja Nomad to see and enjoy each other's contributions?

Thank you for participating in this thread... I really thought everyone would welcome the news of more ice instead of no ice this past August, compared to the year before. :wow: :rolleyes: :biggrin: :yes:
David, I agree with you that certain individuals and groups have used the global warming issue as a vehicle to enrich themselves, but do you really believe that the thousands of climate scientists, who after years of meticulous in depth research, have come to the conclusion that man's activities are negatively affecting the environment, are somehow part of some vast conspiracy to make Al Gore rich and destroy America?



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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 08:31 PM


Points well made Rick. And it isn't so much about the man as the sad number of others like him you could have been describing. More people are killed by baseball bats than by guns, right David.
Take a breath, let it out slowly, I invite you to LOOK for a contradiction to your argument now and then and see if it has merit before you share. It can deliver a liberating feeling, breaking out of lock step. I bless your journey.




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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 08:33 PM


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Points well made Rick. And it isn't so much about the man as the sad number of others like him you could have been describing. More people are killed by baseball bats than by guns, right David.
Take a breath, let it out slowly, I invite you to LOOK for a contradiction to your argument now and then and see if it has merit before you share. It can deliver a liberating feeling, breaking out of lock step. I bless your journey.
busted out the baseball bat theory, oh thats low :lol:
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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 08:41 PM


David is playing you guys.
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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 08:52 PM


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David is playing you guys.

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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 09:32 PM


Of course he believes it, he's still playing you.
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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 11:05 PM


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David is playing you guys.



You're giving him to much credit. If he was playing he would do it better.

Anyway, that brings us back to deception and it's merits.
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