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[*] posted on 5-1-2020 at 10:36 PM


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You are being selfish just like ***** and *****. "I'm on a fixed govt. Income, stay home and don't impact my life."

[Edited on 5-1-2020 by JZ]


You sure like to make assumptions about people you don't know, solely based on the fact that they don't agree with you.

I'm not on a fixed govt. income. I work and my income has been affected by the isolation and lockdowns.

No one needs to commit suicide or die because they are out of work, if govts started financially helping people instead of giving bail-outs to multi-billion dollar companies.






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[*] posted on 5-1-2020 at 10:44 PM


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No one needs to commit suicide or die because they are out of work,



"No one needs to..."

How rich. Tell that to their families. "Your father didn't need to kill himself, son."

The virus is here and will be here for a long time. Ppl arguing for stay at home after the point of the medical professionals getting ready are nuts.





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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 12:50 PM


Covid-19 shutdown will lead to 130M starvation deaths. But ***** and ***** want you to stay home and not impact their lives on the govt. teet.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/un-warns-coronavirus-fallout-wil...




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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 01:57 PM


Any actual updates on topic?
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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 04:15 PM


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Just saw this for BCS....

http://www.californiahoyusa.com/2020/04/36-hour-arrest-for-a...

Does anyone know if BCN has a similar restriction?


https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-califo...





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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 04:17 PM


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I don't know if this is the wrong thread for this, but does anyone have any info on Baja reopening? I've heard you can still travel freely for most of Baja. Any recent info anyone?


Re-open is more border (and maybe business/economy) related IMHO.

If you're looking for road / highway restrictions, perhaps viewing what's posted in trip reports, road conditions and/or Q&A forums would prove beneficial in some way? Or posting a question there instead of here?

Just a thought.






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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 05:11 PM


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Covid-19 shutdown will lead to ....


...uncertainty, for sure. Mexico or elsewhere.

Those who want to go back to work (generally, the service sector) face things not being as they were, and may never be again for years/decades to come (will there be a vaccine that works well?). When will customers/clients feel comfortable returning to public gathering locations again? Restaurants, bars, hotels, airplanes, sports venues, etc, etc, etc. If they don't return, there are a LOT of businesses that will be no more. I can't speak for how this will be in Mexico. Time will tell.

Service-sector businesses need to figure out creative ways add value in the face of unprecedented (for a generation) circumstances that continue to appear as though they aren't going away (completely) any time soon. Those unemployed (at least in the US) face putting pressure on their employers, and could make them fail in the short term when a further delay in re-opening would provide the runway to survive longer-term. Nobody knows the answers.

One loses their freedom of speech (US) if they yell "fire" in a crowded theater - because of the risks to the others around them beyond having to listen to their words. There may be some similar concerns on "rights" today for those that put others at a health risk in public, etc. Something to keep in consideration.

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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 05:18 PM


USA research and stats - info of use to other countries going up on the covid curve and facing economic decisions, etc:

https://news.wharton.upenn.edu/press-releases/2020/05/penn-w...

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf
https://www.bls.gov/bls/newsrels.htm#OEUS




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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 05:23 PM



Lets hope that they can stay on track with the reduction in infections!

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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 06:24 PM


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Lets hope that they can stay on track with the reduction in infections!






i dunno bout dat...

i wont be getting on any airplane cattle car until there is a reliable treatment or vaccine for covid-19,... I suspect many, if not most, people feel the same way...





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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 06:31 PM


I'm just-a-hopin' and -a-prayin' there's not a second wave ?



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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 07:02 PM


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i dunno bout dat...

i wont be getting on any airplane cattle car until there is a reliable treatment or vaccine for covid-19,... I suspect many, if not most, people feel the same way...



I'd get on a plane right now. The air in the cabin is very safe. Much, much better than a bus or subway.

Plus they will spread ppl out. I've been thinking how I could go to Hawaii.




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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 07:28 PM


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i dunno bout dat...

i wont be getting on any airplane cattle car until there is a reliable treatment or vaccine for covid-19,... I suspect many, if not most, people feel the same way...



I'd get on a plane right now. The air in the cabin is very safe. Much, much better than a bus or subway.

Plus they will spread ppl out.


The airlines will,spread people out right up until the point they sell the last available seat. Airlines would go out of biz leaving the middle seats empty.
Airline air is as safe as the people seated around you. The people around you are overweight and unhealthy. The average gringo.




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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 07:31 PM


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Lets hope that they can stay on track with the reduction in infections!



A fine and dandy idea but infections in Mexico are not going down and the US is at best starting leveling off.




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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 08:05 PM


btw... another concern - and I'm not expert enough to know how much of one it is for Mexico... is that the countries where vaccines are produced are likely to maintain only domestic distribution at first.

There have been interviews with pharma company reps this week in the business news, and they're indicating intentions to manufacture in multiple countries due to this reality.

I'm totally unaware of how this will impact Mexico, but is certainly something to consider in expectations going forward.




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The airlines will,spread people out right up until the point they sell the last available seat. Airlines would go out of biz leaving the middle seats empty.
Airline air is as safe as the people seated around you. The people around you are overweight and unhealthy. The average gringo.


At the beginning they will 100% for sure spread ppl out.

It's not a sustainable model. But it will be the norm for a while.





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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 09:06 PM


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A fine and dandy idea but infections in Mexico are not going down and the US is at best starting leveling off.


Ppl are going to get it. And many ppl are going to die.

The entire goal was to let the medical teams to ramp up and get ready.

If we don't get back to business, being very cautious, as soon as possible than the indirect side effects of Covid will be 500x of those who die directly from it.





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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 09:16 PM


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Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly  


A fine and dandy idea but infections in Mexico are not going down and the US is at best starting leveling off.


Ppl are going to get it. And many ppl are going to die.

The entire goal was to let the medical teams to ramp up and get ready.

If we don't get back to business, being very cautious, as soon as possible than the indirect side effects of Covid will be 500x of those who die directly from it.


And there is the crux of the matter,,,

Capitalism has gone amok, and humanity has to pay the price......






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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 09:34 PM


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Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly  


A fine and dandy idea but infections in Mexico are not going down and the US is at best starting leveling off.


Ppl are going to get it. And many ppl are going to die.

The entire goal was to let the medical teams to ramp up and get ready.

If we don't get back to business, being very cautious, as soon as possible than the indirect side effects of Covid will be 500x of those who die directly from it.



Nobody really needs grand parents. flock ‘em, let ‘em die, so we can go back to work for the man. Is that your world view?




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[*] posted on 5-2-2020 at 11:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly  


A fine and dandy idea but infections in Mexico are not going down and the US is at best starting leveling off.


Ppl are going to get it. And many ppl are going to die.

The entire goal was to let the medical teams to ramp up and get ready.

If we don't get back to business, being very cautious, as soon as possible than the indirect side effects of Covid will be 500x of those who die directly from it.




Not really sure the medical teams, esp in Mexico, are all ramped up for an even bigger spike when things open up, people get complacent and chit hits the fan harder and faster.





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