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KurtG
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morow, or the day after, I am going to check out the road from San Javier to the Commondu's. It may be a few days before I have internet options to
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looking forward to that report also.
Thanks for the story and pics. |
Also looking forward to that road report. It is one of my favorites. Glad that the bad report I was given about San Isidro/Comondu was inaccurate.
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Mulege Canuck
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Motoged y AK
Thanks for the road info for Commondu to San Isidro. I am planning a San Ignacio - San Juanico - Commondu - Muluge Loop this February.
Looking forward to your report on the San javier road report.
Thanks again
MC
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I think we passed you guys, We were almost to San Juanico, and you gave us a wave, we were in a white Bronco. 2 bikes and a small car.
We had just come from Comondo! We started in Loreto. we took the road that was just below San Javier, It was also marked with race tape.
Was a little rocky in some places but not bad all in all! will try to post some pictures.
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David K
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Comondú
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liknbaja127
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Sorry, had a long drive today!
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David K
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I am jealous you were there and I wasn't! Have a great holiday season amigo!
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | Ged forgot to mention the shower in the annex that we stayed in. There was a dirt path to an outbuilding in the court yard, which had a floor drain
and a pipe in the wall that could have held a shower head, but didn't. Our shower was a five gallon bucket filled at the faucet in the garden, and a
plastic pitcher used as a ladle. Refreshing! The same five gallon bucket was also the plumbing for the toilet, if we had been brave enough to use
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I've found that when you stay at places that don't leave the chocolate on your pillow you may not find a shower head, or find one plugged with mineral
deposits, so I've begun carrying a cheap shower head with the other junk I haul around. It may not make it onto a moto trip supply list but worth
taking up space on a 4-wheel trip. Especially if your wife is with you.
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ANY water source on a desert moto trip is luxury...
The second luxury is your own TP....lots of Cordon to squat behind 
Don't believe everything you think....
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AKgringo
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Loreto to San Jose Comondu
The Paved road from Mx 1 toward San Javier was a delight to drive, with some fantastic scenery. There was one construction detour for about a half
mile (no problem) and some hairpin turns to watch out for, but a good road.
I found the road north just past Rancho Viejo, and it is not marked, but you will you know you are on it by the pink flagging along the route.
As LB127 stated, it is a pretty good road that has had recent work done on it. You can't smooth out bedrock with a blade though, so when it is rough,
it is definetly 4x4 terrain, or a tough 2wd with limited slip or a locking differential.
There are two grades to climb and descend, with some interesting switchbacks. I liked it better than the road between San Isidro and Mx 1, because in
between the rough spots, it is a pretty nice cruise!
By the way, I encountered two more bicycle riders about half way across. It turn out, they were part of the same group that we crossed paths with in
Arroyo San Raymundo.
They were German, and started their ride in Alaska, nine months ago! And get this, they were amazed that I could drive my Kia down
the route they traveled!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Mulege Canuck
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Thanks AK
We're there any sections against rock bluffs where my 8 ft wide camper would not fit ?
MC
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There are some vertical rock faces on the north end of the road, but you should have plenty of clearance. You will probably be brushing the dust off
the camper in a few places with fairly soft new growth vegetation, but nothing you should have to get out and cut back.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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I have moto'd that road from SJ Comondu to Loreto years ago. I recall that the western side had some boulder fields that I would describe as similar
to glacier tailings when I backpacked. Have they filled in with dirt or just gotten tamped down, no way a blade would have any effect on them. How was
the road across the volcanic spine between east/western sides, again those areas had some razor sharp rocks with assorted baby heads that blades
wouldn't touch. I would love to ride that road again if it's in better condition. Any photos?
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Mulege Canuck
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Thanks AK
New route planned now.
MC
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AKgringo
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Sweetwater, they just ran a race across that road, which I would describe as more north/south. The north end (westerly) does have quite a few
potential spear tips, but they are mostly visible, or beaten down. There is one arroyo about the mid point that has lots of cobbles, but as you
suspected, they have pretty much been beaten into a drivable surface. The southern (easterly) end is pretty smooth sailing.
I assume you are riding a dirt/off road capable machine, I wouldn't take a chopper on that road!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Mulege Canuck
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Thanks AK
New route planned now.
MC
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | Sweetwater, they just ran a race across that road, which I would describe as more north/south. The north end (westerly) does have quite a few
potential spear tips, but they are mostly visible, or beaten down. There is one arroyo about the mid point that has lots of cobbles, but as you
suspected, they have pretty much been beaten into a drivable surface. The southern (easterly) end is pretty smooth sailing.
I assume you are riding a dirt/off road capable machine, I wouldn't take a chopper on that road! |
Since this map was produced (2010):
The road from Loreto to San Javier is paved.
The road from Ejido Francisco Villa to San José Comondú is paved.
A new paved road from Las Barrancas goes north to San Juanico (off the map).
[Edited on 12-1-2016 by David K]
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willyAirstream
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a side note....the new road from Los Barrancas to San Juanico is 50% complete, wide shoulders and leisurely driving, the other half is paved, but is
not being maintained, large pot holes, wash outs etc. The new portion is being done in 3 mile +/- sections. An easy drive, but stay extra alert on the
old pavement.
Thanks everyone for the reports.
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FWIW, in September we did the San Isidro-Comondu-Loreto via San Javier trek and while it was rough in spots, not much 4x4 was needed. In comparison, a
week ago we did Viscaino to Conception the long way. Went out to the coast at San Ignacio then into San Juanico for lunch and gas.
Left there to La Purisima via the dirt and arrived just before sundown. We had no info on the road out of San Isidro to Conception figuring it was a
more or less graded road. As we started up the grade right after the left turn we figured when we get to the top we'll be off like the wind. Not so
much. There are very few spots that you could go over 20 or so mph then back into short steep rough up and down. The last 10 miles or so before Mx 1
were pretty smooth and fast but we both agreed, while quite a bit shorter than the Comondu road, this one was much slower and rougher. Nothing close
to impassable, other than the truck parked in the middle of the road in the bottom of a gully we had to wheel around 15ish miles from Mx 1 at 8pm, but
nothing like what we found the Comondu road to be like.
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David K
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Ged, after re-reading this just now... I realized I never saw the photos you took of the ruins or remains of Mission La Purísima???
Any chance I can see what you got? I need to get there myself!
FOUNDED IN 1720 as the 6th California mission:
1956
1956
1949
Here are photos of it from the 1920s:
Behind pole with cross.
1926
Earlier.
1906
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David K
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The twin towns of Comondu and La Purisima are Shangri-la towns per the old Baja books... I was in Comondu as a kid when it was on the main 'highway'
to La Paz (1966). Need to go back!
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