| David K 
 
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| Baja Weekend Part 4 - Beyond San Juan de Dios 
 
 Sunday afternoon going north on Highway One, I stopped in Catavina to
 buy some gas from Alfonso ($3/gal for Magna). He also sells Premium. He
 said in about a month, the Pemex pump in front of the hotel (across the
 street) will once again be working. Alfonso was not disappointed by the
 prospect of being no longer needed. He said he would go fishing and
 enjoy life!
 
 I stopped at many side roads to add GPS data and to map the relationship
 of Highway One to the old main road. The Baja Almanac and Topos are all
 wrong in the San Agustin to Catavina area. They just paved the old road
 which is a mile or more east of the new.
 
 Between Km.103 and 104 is a cafe on the north side of road. This is the
 start of today's adventure... The road to San Juan de Dios and other
 interior places, begins here.
 
 The road first goes up the slope behind the cafe. This road has several
 forks and no signs! Sonny Espinoza's tractor and some copper mines are
 soon passed.  The first fork is 2.5 miles from the highway, turn left.
 The Sauzalito copper mine/ ghost town is another mile down the road at
 N30?05.9' W115?21.8'. The road turns north and crosses the San Juan
 de Dios river 1.3 miles from Sauzalito. In July of 2000 there was much
 more water and a pond with ducks!
 
 Just 0.2 mi. past the river is the next fork. Left is a rarely used
 backroad to El Rosario, go right. A major fork is reached 0.5 mi. from
 the river. Left goes to Los Martires and on to San Quintin on the Baja
 2000 race course of two years ago. Stay right and pass through an
 awesome boojum forest that rivals any in Baja! I stopped along here and
 made myself a late lunch (2pm). A rancher and his son drove up in an
 older Toyota 4WD truck and stopped to check on me. I told him I was
 going to San Juan de Dios and that I knew Sonny Espinoza (who owns the
 land). LdB and I met Sonny and his family two years ago when he was
 using that tractor to build or repair roads.  I asked about the road to
 San Quintin over the mountains... muy malo? He said "si" but looked at
 my truck (also a Toyota), and said "no problema"! Si, si... Toyota
 numero uno. It was a 'special' moment!
 
 11.6 miles from the highway (5.4 from the river) is the next fork. To
 the left is a ranch, down in a valley, go right. A half mile later is an
 open gate and another road left to the ranch. The road is now traveling
 east and a third road comes in from that ranch at the bottom of a grade.
 
 15.6 miles from the highway at 30?10.73'/ 115?15.55' is a cross
 road. To the right goes to Cerro Blanco. Continue ahead. Now, the next
 fork is a big one, and I took the wrong branch. It is 1.3 miles from the
 last one, at 30?10.98'/ 115?14.27'. Right goes to San Juan de Dios,
 I went left.
 
 This would end up being an interesting mistake. I had read about El
 Sauce de Carter in Peterson's Baja Adventure Book. This left fork goes
 5.1 miles to the Arroyo Grande and El Sauce de Carter is in a stand of
 tall trees, just to the left along the (now dry) river bed. 'Sauce' in
 Spanish means willow tree.
 
 Peterson tells of a 5 mile hike up the river bed to a beautiful gorge
 with tall trees, blue palms, and huge pools. The road on the map ends
 here... but a well traveled road crosses the river bed going north. I go
 north! 1.3 miles from El Sauce de Carter is a major fork (30?15.45'/
 115?12.98'). Both branches seem to go on forever. I take the right
 branch as it is heading straight for Matomi mountain! Having been in
 Matomi Canyon several times (on the other side of the mountain), this
 interests me. I would love to find a short cut across Baja... would this
 road take me to Puertecitos?
 
 Nope! I arrive at a gate.... again! I am 2.8 miles from Arroyo Grande
 (Sauce de Carter) and must turn around. In the Baja Almanac go to page
 N-16, Z-6, this new road's gate is almost at that bend in the trail
 shown going north to 'La Huertita'. Mount Matomi looms just beyond. So
 near, yet so far! I turn back, get back to 'right' road and arrive at
 San Juan de Dios 4.9 miles from the Sauce de Carter road. I have time to
 re-examine the ruins there and the other adobe ruins that Jack Swords
 found, a mile beyond, just as the sun sets.
 
 San Juan de Dios is about 22 miles from Highway One over a mostly good
 road. The waypoint for the mission visita ruins and Jack's other adobe
 ruins are on my Baja Missions web page, along with dozens of other new
 and historic photographs at
 http://community-2.webtv.net/DrDrip/bajamissions
 
 Or, find the link on my Baja web site, http://DavidKsBaja.com
 
 GPS waypoints on the Missions page are set to map datum WGS84. Waypoints
 in this article are set to NAD27, so you can plot these spots on the
 topo maps.
 
 The final chapter is next...
 
 
 [Edited on 15-11-2002 by David K]
 
 
 
 
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| Damn David 
 
 You and bajamur are baja blood brothers. The relentless ones. HEHEHE. Great post.  I just tried to send you a instant message.  Is that thing working.
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| Nov. 2002 Article 
 
 This was a fun solo trip. Mexitron and his friends explore up this way a lot, including their climb to the top of Matomi Mountain http://community-2.webtv.net/thebaja/mexitron
 
 
 
 
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 Thanks for bringing this adventure back up for us newbies to see.  I can't get enough of the details of peoples trips.
 
 Email me all the coord's you have & I'll try plotting it on a map.
 
 
   
 
 
 
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 Hey, Mexitron, are you still up for exploring upper Arroyo Grande sometimes this winter?
 
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 Hey David,
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 Yes jide--by all means!!  David K?
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 Steve, Gerald, Lou... the only thing keeping me from going to Baja is money... If I have it, I will be there! The Arroyo Grande hike sounds great. I
first read about it in the former Baja Traveler/Baja Explorer magazine. Looks exotic... and Gerald, bring MORE wine!
 
 
 
 
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| D.F.F. (dry food freak) 
 
 I'll bring more wine for sure, actually I found a dehydrated version for backpacking!!!!
 
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 Yah, that oft dreamed of dehydrated alchohol........good news is that the hike up to the Arroyo Grande doesn't look to be too far---we can haul in
wine and a couple cases of beer too!!!
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| Viva Baja in Arroyo Grande? 
 
 With all that beer and wine, we could have a Viva Baja party!
 
 For those geographically challenged, Arroyo Grande canyon is between El Rosario and Puertecitos, six miles south of Matomi peak. Closest roads at El
Sauce de Carter and San Juan de Dios. Kinda what I would call "DOWNTOWN BAJA!"
     
 
 
 
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| Great trip... 
 
 It seems you had a great time David..... this kind of stories is what keeps the Baja fever going... does that makes you kind of a Baja
virus....???....
  
 Thanks for sharing them with us....
 
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| Arroyo Grande 
 
 Just as a matter of information, there is another Arroyo Grande in northeastern Baja Calif.  Canada Arroyo Grande is north of Mex 3 and extends
nortward emptying into the southernmost end of Laugna Salada.  It begins in the foothills of the Sierra Juarez north of San Matis and goes
northeasterly  between the Sierra Tinajas and the Sierra Pinta for a distance of about 30 km.
 
 
   
 
 
 
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\"Never argue with an idiot.  People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
 
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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