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Mike Humfreville
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Check out this Poll
Without pointing fingers at ANYONE, would you enjoy nomad board with more or less infighting, name calling and personal criticisms? Or with less?
Thanks for your input.
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DanO
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I'll have to abstain. Every time I vote, I get nailed with jury duty.
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Tomas Tierra
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Bamboo chicken coops are the answer to this bickering!!
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jrbaja
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Are you again saying
you didn't delete your attacking posts Mike?
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bajablue
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Being that I am a dreadful "newbie" I am not sure if I am even aloud to chime in, but I think less fighting is always better. although I only have one
gold star. I am sure there are a lot of good "newbies" who could add some great stuff to this board, but get turned away. I have been reading this
board for over a year, but only post when I feel like I have something beneficial to add. I have to admit that it is hard to put my two cents in at
times, without the fear of another member turning it into a bashing. What I have learned, is that there are a select few who are bored and like
stirring the pot and I just take it for what it is. They have there group and anyone who is not in that "group" gets killed, no matter the "quality"
of the post. .. That is cool, but it can get a little tired after about one post.. With that said, everyone always says there is so much to talk about
in Baja, but it seams like we all get off track a little... The best way to stop the bashing would be, SIMPLY NOT responding to the basher's comments.
Then it would stop real quick.. Then again maybe we all need some harsh criticism every once in a while, I just wish it never got personal...
PS, I did not inhale and I do not know how delete!!
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Baja Bernie
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bajablue
You sir have hit the nail directly on its head--In fact I believe that you have driven it home with one healthy wack.
I believe that anyone should be allowed to post without the worry of being attacked. Unfortunately, as you say there are a minority who would rather
attack others than discuss all things Baja.
I must tell you that one of these guys is a friend of mine, JR, and I have been thinking of asking that a new button be added for his exclusive
use--this botton would allow him to repeat any post having to do with the chicken group or P-nche gringo's without even having to think--Zap! strike
the button and there you have it---an instant rant. No pain, no mess, and no thinking!
Come on JR--get back to the interesting things that you used to share with all of us that increased everyones interest and knowledge of 'our'
Baja.---I still have the pictures of those two blonde kids that you posted a long time ago and have enjoyed all of your stories and most importantly
your pictures of areas that most of us have never (and will never) see.
Oh! I voted for less conflict on the poll. I would have voted that way even if I had set up the poll. Guess I'm just a candy ass at heart.
Please, let's all get back to the positive Baja stuff and forget most of the negative junk.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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jrbaja
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I'll give it some thought Bernie
and I don't attack Newbies without first being attacked. As far as the P-nche gringo posts go, it is a major part of living in Baja. And there are a
group of them on here who I refer to as the chicken coop group.
They are the reason you left Baja. Perhaps not these specific ones but they all act pretty much the same as you know.
I have a bunch of them as neighbors on weekends when I am in Rosarito. Good thing it's only sometimes!
Perhaps I should have a poll? Who really wants to hear about Baja and all things concerned? Or who wants to hear some armchair blowhard tourists
ideas of Baja from a week or two spent in a gringo enclave?
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bajablue
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Thanks Bernie!
Like I said before. I have no agenda here and know nobody on this forum. I have no idea what the "chicken group or P-nche gringo's" mean, I just know
it gets used way to much. Kind of like the boy who cried wolf.. I just enjoy all the things by EVERYONE including Jr that people write, ABOUT BAJA..
Actually, if you go look in the photos section, JR has been posting some UNBELIEVABLE photos of late and I have really enjoyed that.
As for me, I am just here to soak it in and when I feel passionate about something or think I can answer a question, I will chime in. DOESN'T mean
it's right or wrong, it's just my two cents and take it for what it's worth. I can tell you this. It will NEVER be personal, because how could I in
the slightest bit know someone, just by what they write here on this forum, that isn't personal at all....
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MrBillM
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Cool, Mike !
You start a poll regarding attacks and you get attacked. I love it. I'm the (1) so far, who doesn't care one way or the other. It's all
entertaining.
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bajablue
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JR, Seee..
This is where you confuse me. Why does it bother you that (i am assuming David K) he post his week or two week trip? Who cares, the fact that he took
the time to write about it is pretty cool. That is his passion, so what if he doesn't go to the places you consider special or your type of enclave.
That is what this place is about, let people read it and if they go there, great.. I don't see anyone ever complaining about his "spots". Also, you
hate P-nche gringo's, but you live in an area where they all visit and terrorize... I think you need to keep heading south.. Just trying to feel you
bro, again nothing personal....
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Sharksbaja
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Excuse me Blue. Is that a new kind of lure yer tossing out?
If you only knew....why.
It is no secret, keep researching maybe you'll strike oil
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bajablue
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don't need to research, it's not what I am here for.... I just keep hearing the same thing over and over again.
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jrbaja
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Blue
I don't hate anybody. The feuds on here go back a long way although many of the posts have been deleted. This fact in itself has shown the lack of
backbone possessed by some on here.
Most of the bs being posted has stopped, since the armchair advisors were called on their nonsense. Those posts have all been deleted as well, of
course!
I enjoy all postings and pictures of Baja. I am passionate about all things Baja including any and all pictures and stories.
However, I am also passionate about truth, blowhards, and those who play by "questionable " rules. These are usually the guys getting too drunk,
wrecking their cars and atv's, taking credit for others work, and giving gringos a bad name in general down here.
Since I am a gringo and live in both Baja Norte y Sur, I feel I am entitled to comment on their behaviour in the hopes that some will at least think
about their actions before performing them.
If I didn't travel around down here so much, I probably wouldn't even be aware of this P-nche gringo behaviour that is becoming more prevalent every
day but living here, you grow to see things for what they really are. Not knowledge gained on a two week vacation.
When this whole feud started, it was because I was commenting on the behaviour of certain gringos down here. I had no idea that so many would take
it personally on here and that's when MH and the ccg'ers started calling me anti american. Needless to say, those posts have all been deleted.
Anyways, that's my story for the umteenth time and I'm sticken to it! Fortunately, I don't see this as anything more than entertainment (I don't
like TV) so I will continue contributing pics and stories along with observations from living here.
And obviously, I am not sorry that they offend some. The real folks seem to enjoy them.
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Dave
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Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
I don't attack Newbies without first being attacked. |
Not very sporting of you. How else you gonna train 'em?
I'm sure you know how I voted but I'd like to know who the other five like minds are. We could form our own CCG.
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Sharksbaja
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tis a fact, broken records many.
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bajablue
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It all sounds reasonable and yes I guess I was a little offended about the P-nche gringo stuff. Just know we all see it and I am sure everyone on here
does not approve of it. as far as your battles, that's on you and your ccg'ers, (by the way thanks for the abbreviation, so tired of reading that). I
was just offended again, when I got lumped in there and I think that's why a lot of others jump on you, because of the sort of paranoia theory that
everyone is against you. At the end of the day, I still don't like reading all the high school chit, but it's a free country, or is it?.....
Just do me a favor and keep continue contributing the pics and stories...
Saludos
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jrbaja
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The thing about polls started by *******
is that they wouldn't have the spine to start them without first scratching up some support!
Funny thing is, all the other polls have shown that there truly are a majority of intelligent people on here, capable of having thoughts of their
own. Much to the dismay of the cluckers!
Either way though, it still beats TV !
[Edited on 8-13-2005 by BajaNomad]
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jrbaja
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I've been over this a bunch
but the title P-nche gringo has to be earned by certain actions common to the ccg'ers.
It by no means applies to all gringos! But, more n likely, if you take offense to what I have to say, you probably are one. And that is directed to no one in particular.
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jrbaja
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Oh don't worry
soon's I gets threw u2u'n all my friends for support, DOh !!!
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Dave
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Quote: | Originally posted by Hose A
Actually I know who a third one is but he asked me not to tell. |
So?
You didn't swear or get paid, didya?
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