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Sharksbaja
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Attn: Dropouts! How to post as a Nomad and get away with it, or not.
That may sound a bit misleading and a little strange.
"I sure feel a better after a successful post."
That sounds odd also.
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I am certainly by no means an expert but I have been witness.
Rewards are not always of tangible substance, certainly not here, after all were not playin' for chips.
What are we playing for? It's obvious to me sometimes. We are playing for ourselves of course.
Ludicrous? Folly?
Ask yourself the question:
"Why do I post and respond the way I do to some"
Do you post "off the cuff" or do you spend valuable synaptic time trying to illustrate your position.
Other influences may affect ones written words;
Do you exhibit extreme emotion during confrontational exchanges?
Does your ability to communicate succinctly deminish through your reluctance to continue a heated exchange.
Do you resent later your dialog, hoping it's percieved correctly and welcomed or do you worry that it will fail in all eyes?
Does the fear of being pegged as belonging to one group or another hover over all your contributions.
Do you really care personally how the rest of the board members view you.
Do you wish you could always be viewed as an independant by your peers here.
Is it so important to you to contribute, even anonymously, if your view(s) become threatened?
What should you do when one demonizes you, should it bother you?
Should you respond? Should you keep personal these feelings?
These are just some common questions folks might ask themselves sometimes.
Normal feelings for most people. So why do people treat each other with enormous disrespect or vice versa?
Is there a way to forgive and forget. Should you?
These questions lend themselves particularly well with inexperienced (Forum)individuals, anonymous converts and a horde of lurkers.
One thing is for sure, you must get over the injuries fast and counter effectively.
Participation time has given me a clearer perspective of the general position of some of the more active players.
I had not until recently felt the need to delve into others past scripturesas a way to justify or condemn a post. Why would one?
Maybe the confidence or lack of, played heavy.
To be sure, qualifying or disqualifying by way of research can be of paramount importance.
One thing is sure. Try to know through effort who you are dealing with, it makes for a much more level playing field.
Joining others in a lamblasting however may carry permanent side-effects.
Above all else; post your own opinion as an opinion and stay with it. Posting "as fact" can be very precarious. Be sure.
The "truth" can be your devining rod.
Beware the agendas too.
Before you write something with harsh overtones and disdain remember what they say on SNL,
SIMMA DOUN NOW 
but don't take it too personal and go away.
You may have more allies than you thought.
now back to your story.............................................
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KurtG
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You're taking this much too seriously.
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Sharksbaja
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How many unnecessary emails do you get from D Os? Sorry, I guess I should have mentioned that.
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comitan
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Sharks
Well written and thought out, really too much to think about and how much time and effort went into that post,whew!!!!!!!!!!!
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Sharksbaja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
Sharks
Well written and thought out, really too much to think about and how much time and effort went into that post,whew!!!!!!!!!!! |
10 minutes to write and 2 mins for the pic and 1 min to post Way too much effort
ya think? Think of the cause
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jrbaja
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I think it would be
for many on this board! Independent thought from some o these characters? Paleese!
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Sharksbaja
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Does anyone know: where in Baja I took that photo?
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Baja Bernie
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Sharks
Okay!
I was setting here this morning thinking about the old timers who have dropped off and the newbee's who might never leave the legions of the lurkers.
Right in the middle of my heavest thoughts I received an email with 17 points on how the Dalai Lama looks at 2005.
Now! Now! I am serious and just a few won't hurt anybody who wanders around Baja
#5. Learn the rules so you may break them properly
#6. Don't let little disputes injure a great relationship
#7, When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to correct it
#14. Share your knowledge. It is a way to share immortality
#16. Once a year, go someplace you've never been before
Seems to me that these simple things, if practiced, would make for a fun forum where the old timers would enjoy returning and the youngsters would not
feel that they were going to get shot if they posted.
Shark, I think a lot of us are trying to figure out how we can have fun and start learning about Baja again.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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Sharksbaja
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Me too, Bernie
I agree with your points. Unfortunately "fun" to some isn't fun for the rest. Thanks for the input.
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Cincodemayo
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Sharks...
Looks like Loreto Bay the other side of the 9th hole????
Don\'t get mad...
Get EVEN.
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Sharksbaja
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nope, north of Loreto
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zforbes
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Bernie...care to share the other 12 Dalai Lama hints? They sounded like pretty good advice to me.
When I first started reading I used to get you and Baja Blackie mixed up...now I can tell quite well without your signatures who is who. And I think I
could id a few others as well. By nature I am an observer, not terribly combative and more apt to prefer the company of lizards to loudmouths of any
persuasion. I like your style!)
Sharks...pretty perceptive; good questions.
I don't really have a lot to offer about Baja, since my experience is limited. But I sure take it in, and when I have something to say, I will. I have
not been scared off by the fray, but I'd rather levitate with BajaJudy and enjoy the flowers than spend my time on arguments of dubious merit.
Cheers...Zoe
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Natalie Ann
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Bernie - How nice to be reminded of the words of the Dalai Lama. He also said, "Kindness is my religion". Used to be my tag
line.... guess I'll use it again for awhile. Thank you.
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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Baja Bernie
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Zforbes
Naw! I don't want to push anything on the people. But I will slip them in where I think they fit. And speaking of that--my favorite is: "Approach
love and cooking with reckless abandon"--just seems to right!
Thanks for the compliment about style--does that mean I'm a lizard--hope not because I pulled the tails off of to many of them when I was a kid.
Natalie Ann--we can sure use more of that here--Here is another just for you--"Be gentle with the earth."
I still can't buy prayer wheels.
I still enjoy Rumi--guess it is because where he lived was much like Baja.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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Gypsy Jan
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My answers:
1. I am entranced by all things Baja. I like this board and try to think that I am talking face-to-face so I don't forget the rules of politeness
that allow a society to remain functioning while disagreeing.
2. Yes and yes.
3. I try not to.
4. Probably, I usually get choked up when I am engage in an emotional debate that I feel I have a stake in.
5. A little bit.
6. Probably.
7. Some.
8. Sure.
9. Not terribly worried about it.
10. Depends (not the diaper, the situation).
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Baja Bernie
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Gypsy Jan
"I like this board and try to think that I am talking face-to-face so I don't forget the rules of politeness that allow a society to remain
functioning while disagreeing."
If we all followed you suggestion this this place would become a very friendly second home again.
The basic rules of civilization--politeness--how strange that we have to be reminded of them.
Hey! I see you smiling as you read this--all of you AND me too.
Have a wonderful Baja day.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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Frigatebird
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Hey Sharks,
nice thoughts, as I think we could all benefit from a little more intraspection, tolerance, and maturity.
Isn't that photo from your trek around Bahia Concepcion? Specifically, Punta Concepcion?
Avatar courtesy of Herb 
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Sharksbaja
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No Alzhiemers here......
Frigate, you are good. Just south of the Manganese mine.
The friggin' bird was en route
[Edited on 8-19-2005 by Sharksbaja]
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Frigatebird
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It was all the nicks on the rock that sparked my memory.
Avatar courtesy of Herb
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Sharksbaja
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Frigatebird
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That's a big place.
with as much diversity as Baja!
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