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[*] posted on 3-5-2007 at 01:29 PM
KNOW YOUR NEIGHBOR


The attached is must read true story/article on the corruption of the mexican government/Justice system. Very Scary! This took place in La Mision and is still ongoing.

http://www.ieweekly.com/news.htm
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[*] posted on 3-5-2007 at 01:57 PM


Yeah ---

It's a shame that people from the states move down here and dont understand what could happen to them. Power dictates and that is Mexico. We come from a legal system which we believe will protect us and of course, that can be nonsense at times as well but, it isn't so negotiable at the street level as it is in Mexico. In the case of the land dispute, the better connected lawyer called in some markers and bought a dose of hell for seemingly innocent people. Then of course, as is the way in Mexico, denied it.
Forget expecting the quality of justice you are used to in the states. There is no guarantee, even if you are right.
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[*] posted on 3-5-2007 at 02:32 PM


What's interesting is that all parties are gringos. Mexican justice doesn't discriminate on the side of nationality... Just money.

One of the aggrieved is a personal friend. He has remained upbeat throughout the whole affair. Says the continuing struggle just makes him stronger. He's a decorated Vietnam vet...chopper pilot.




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[*] posted on 3-5-2007 at 03:04 PM


You need to be willing to lose everything you invest on that inexpensive beach front property. Which isn't so inexpensive anymore.
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[*] posted on 3-5-2007 at 03:45 PM


The blood-sucking pig Mexican attorney wasn't a gringo nor were the officials who signed the incarceration order.
Dave ----- If I wanted to spend enough money, I could put you and yours through the same thing. This is our neighborhood. It's how it is.
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[*] posted on 3-5-2007 at 04:01 PM


Could it be that the A-hole neighbor actually thought it was his property? Has it ever happened here, that somebody bought something without verification of ownership? Punta Banda otra vez?
Maybe so but, the attorney is still a pig lover!!!!!
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[*] posted on 3-5-2007 at 04:36 PM
Is this the same person ? ?


http://www.bradcokitchen.com/staff.htm


"Michael Kienzl, a kitchen remodeling contractor from Los Angeles"




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[*] posted on 3-5-2007 at 05:10 PM


Treats his neighbors like Paletinians:?::?:
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[*] posted on 3-5-2007 at 05:18 PM


Quote:
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The blood-sucking pig Mexican attorney wasn't a gringo nor were the officials who signed the incarceration order.


I meant the parties to the suit. Each side has their own Mexican attorney. And there weren't any officials who signed the incarceration order (at least beforehand). ;D



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Dave ----- If I wanted to spend enough money, I could put you and yours through the same thing. This is our neighborhood. It's how it is.


And I, yours.

Someone once told me that they loved Mexico because with enough money anything's possible.

Trouble is, there's always someone with more.




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[*] posted on 3-5-2007 at 05:24 PM


Dave ----

You're right. Paranoia is our best defence.
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[*] posted on 3-6-2007 at 05:41 PM


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Could it be that the A-hole neighbor actually thought it was his property? Has it ever happened here, that somebody bought something without verification of ownership? Punta Banda otra vez?
Maybe so but, the attorney is still a pig lover!!!!!


The Documentation was very clear. This bonehead new what he was doing.
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[*] posted on 3-6-2007 at 05:45 PM


Quote:
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Could it be that the A-hole neighbor actually thought it was his property? Has it ever happened here, that somebody bought something without verification of ownership? Punta Banda otra vez?
Maybe so but, the attorney is still a pig lover!!!!!

:light:

But beware of all the facts before judging, the so called victim, is actually a criminal, he is accused of causing intentional mischievous damage...
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[*] posted on 3-6-2007 at 06:09 PM


I'm looking forward to reading all the facts. I assume they will be forthcoming.
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[*] posted on 3-6-2007 at 07:47 PM


Is this the guy?

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[*] posted on 3-7-2007 at 09:38 AM


This is truly a horrible tale.....BUT......There is something a little fishy in this report as the way it is stated by the I.E. Weekly....It claims the garages that were buldozed wrongfully were on the the prvate property of the said propeerty owners, with all contents missing or stolen. Then later, the article states their is one wall left standing that it is spray painted oarange by McDonald. So....when their is inconsistant information from the get go by some reporter, what are we to believe? For myself.....knowing this area and Mexican lawyers and bankers and real estate people and hearing so many tales so similar I am not very suprised. We are getting only half of the information of what really happened. It would be nice to hear the "kitchen remodelers version". Or from some one who has had a job done by him? Better Business Report?? etc. etc. In the meantime the seagulls fly and the "plop thickens".:smug:
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[*] posted on 3-7-2007 at 02:29 PM
KNOW YOUR NEIGHBOR PART II


This is the real deal. Michael Kienzl is a criminal. Here's another link. See the Cover Story Part 1 thru 3.

http://easyreader.hermosawave.net/news2002/
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[*] posted on 3-7-2007 at 03:10 PM


Don't know who to believe. Sounds like a Dr. Ted story. Another movie script.:?:
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[*] posted on 3-7-2007 at 03:48 PM
I do


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Don't know who to believe.


I know Bill Kirchoff. He is an honorable man. He also has the patience of Job.




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[*] posted on 3-7-2007 at 07:44 PM


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Don't know who to believe.


I know Bill Kirchoff. He is an honorable man. He also has the patience of Job.


I'll second that Dave.
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[*] posted on 3-8-2007 at 09:13 AM


All three of these parties are U.S. citizens residing in the U.S.. As stated ( if infact these are true accounts)Kirtchoff and Mc Donald have been slandered and beat up and abused and put to uneccessary costly inconvienence, by Michael Kienzel. These are solid grounds for a "Grievence" law suit here in the U.S..They need to hire a good lawyer it seems. Why hasn't this been done?:no:
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