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David K
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Neal Johns called from Baja's San Juan de Dios: It's gone! See photos from before:
Hi gang, Neal Johns (with John M) called me from San Juan de Dios with some very sad news on a historic site!
He called to ask me where the visita was located, as I have been there twice... Neal says it is obliterated by some agricultural project that has
plowed it over!
This is the kind of thing that ignorance of historic sites allows... IF the site was visited more, protected or outlined with a fence, etc. then the
local ejido or farmer would have a reason to preserve it. As an INAH site, I wouldn't be surprised if the law has been violated... It is too late,
however.
The connection to Neal ended before we were done talking, so I will hold out some hope that they were looking in the wrong spot, but it didn't sound
so.
Photos from 2000:
This was the largest room, in the middle of the long building ruins. This visita served Mision San Fernando in the early 1800's. (7-25-00)
A room dividing wall. Beyond note the square pits which were rooms in this long building. Picture facing NNW, note some of the date palms near the
arroyo and pools. Adobe is built on stone foundation. Some plaster/ paint is visible on inside walls!
[Edited on 3-7-2007 by David K]
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what could they possibly be growing out there? i guess there is water nearby? bad day....
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David K
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In case anyone wanted to know, who didn't... San Juan de Dios is the the middle of Baja between El Rosario and Puertecitos.
Junipero Serra, on his long walk from Loreto to San Diego stopped there and had his swollen left leg treated by a muleteer with the same poultice used
to treat mules... It worked!
The site became a Dominican visita of the mission of San Fernando...
Note arrow...
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David K
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El Metate is the original home of Mama Espinoza... It was her son, Sony Espinoza who showed me where the ruins were... He was grading the road in from
Hwy. 1 in 2000.
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very sad in dee I guess I will never will be able to see it in person,their here one day gone the next.
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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David K
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So true... the adobe missions sites are fading away fast... See http://vivabaja.com/bajamissions
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Probably another "Cilantro" farm what a shame
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David K
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Jack Swords Photos from Nov. 12, 2003
Here are 4 photos taken at San Juan de Dios by Jack Swords (reduced to post on Nomad)...
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David K
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another...
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note palms in background... they are along the river.
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David K
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If what Neal reported is correct, then another mission-era site is lost forever...
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Can only hope he is mistaken
Diane
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Neal, John M... You guys back yet???
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We are back.
Here is the picture where the new field about the size of a football field was bulldozed into being. The picture was taken from the middle of the
field. Great rows of vegetation were piled up. Compare with DK's picture.
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Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
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We think maybe this project (whatever it is) might have had something to do with it. These signs were posted at all turns to San Juan de Dios.
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Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
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That doesn't seem to be the best agricultural soil there, at least if recall the few times I've visited the site. pretty rocky--nothing like just
east at R. El Metate. Maybe they're putting in more ranch structures? There were some existing structures there although whether they were being used
I don't recall.
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There is a shack there now, but not presently lived in. Plenty of water but little flat cleared land.
A mile or so down the road toward El Metate, there are two adobes, a well, a large crypt with at least two graves in it and plenty of flat land. We
walked across the flood plain and found running water on the far side. You saw this and took pics, DK, it sure looks more like a mission/visita site
than the first water crossing where the adobe was bulldozed. What say, DK?
Poor pic of crypt:
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UMA-Baja it would seem has something to do with protecting things in Baja:
http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/ecologia/tramites/tasas.htm
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David K
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That sounds like a typical government project : Destroy it first, then protect it!!!
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