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[*] posted on 4-1-2007 at 06:58 AM
loreto bay, again


There is someone posting information on the "Trip Advisor" forum about Loreto. He calls himself "watchout buyers" and says he was a builder at Loreto Bay, but quit because of mismanagement. His posts are deleted by the forum shortly after they are posted because they "are not travel related."
This is what he posted this morning:
"heres the latest news. peter wardle the new director of the whole project is being sued for sexual harrasment by two mexican women who work for him. these women are also planning to go to immigration to try to get him deported, or arrested. from my experience dealing and working with peter i believe these women. also ken foust who was in charge of custom homes was given his walking papers for no reason. loreto bay owes him over 170,000.00 dollars for back pay, and by mexican law must pay him 3 months wages for letting him go. also about three months ago they hired a consultant to come to loreto to give a 3 day seminar costing over 3 million dollars. this project is being mismanaged, both money , and construction wise. think twice before buing there."
This guy obviously is angry and might have a vendetta. I can't vouch for anything he says. But it is all quite interesting. Just thought I'd share.
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[*] posted on 4-1-2007 at 07:19 AM


$ 170.000.00 back pay:?::?: Now there's a wothy employee, I say. About his money's worth in gold.:lol::lol:
And a guy that runs a million a day seminar:?::?::?:
Tough to get your money's worth at events like that. Wonder if there was free champagne and fish tacos:?::?:
Maybe they were "NUEVO PESOS" possibly:?::?::?::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 4-1-2007 at 09:04 AM


...I see that that particular thread was shut off...think it might be because Loreto Bay is a major advertiser..???
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[*] posted on 4-1-2007 at 10:47 AM


What about "Free Speech" against dishonerable developers???????:mad::mad:
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[*] posted on 4-1-2007 at 01:48 PM


Whatever happened to "Both Sides of the Story"?????????????????????? Before making judgement, I'd like to know L.B.'s story first!!!!!!
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[*] posted on 4-1-2007 at 01:55 PM


We had an interesting discussion in Loreto with three ladies from the bay area that had joined to buy a place in LB. They had put down money at three different times (almost $100,000) and had come down to see the progress on their place. There was no progress, just vacant land.

These gals either had so much money or so little smarts that they had very little concern. I would guess that many of the buyers are very similar; it's anly money ! Yikes !

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[*] posted on 4-1-2007 at 02:01 PM


Whatever happened to "Both Sides of the Story"?????????????????????? Before making judgement, I'd like to know L.B.'s story first!!!!!!
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[*] posted on 4-1-2007 at 02:21 PM


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Whatever happened to "Both Sides of the Story"?????????????????????? Before making judgement, I'd like to know L.B.'s story first!!!!!!


Well, go ahead and ask Loreto Bay what their side of the story is. :rolleyes:
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[*] posted on 4-1-2007 at 03:04 PM


Yes Phil, please find out the true story for us. All I get are first hand reports from people working there, and they have nothing good to say!!
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[*] posted on 4-1-2007 at 04:24 PM


The 3 million dollar consulting fee was probably nothing more than a legal way for the powers at be to funnel out money that was intended for construction costs.:lol:

This is one project that Captn. Mike can't even get behind.:lol:

[Edited on 1-4-2007 by Minnow]




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[*] posted on 4-1-2007 at 07:04 PM


Thanks Don. I think I will. I'm acquainted with Ed Tates replacement, so I think I'll ask him who the heck this guy is. Peter Wardle is a new name to me. You know him by any chance Don? If so, what was his job title? I thought I've met most of them over the years, including those who aren't here anymore.
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[*] posted on 4-1-2007 at 08:38 PM


pure conjecture and b.s i havent seen a single fact only hearsay



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[*] posted on 4-2-2007 at 01:33 AM


well.............wait just a gosh durn minute here.

i have said in the past i was neither for nor against it as its not my cup of tea - i like a cheap palapa. where i can get smashed on the patio, torture the neighbors and generally bark at the moon..............

but i support development done right.
well here it is, my confirmation. a friend of mine, pilot, biz man and volunteer (medicos) bought a home there last year. it is gorgous, they delivered the goods from scratch just as promised, he was around periodically during the ops to talk with decorators etc. - bottom line? he says the place is tops.
well good for him, he is rico - if thats what he likes its ok for me.
you can't tell me ALL the people having jobs there are b-tchin!

i suspect a lot of sour grapes about. take em with a grain of tequila with your salt.:P:rolleyes:




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[*] posted on 4-2-2007 at 11:35 AM


Don Jorge & Mike. Well said!!!!!!! Yes I'm sure there will be sour grapes from many people
Don Alley. I don't know where your finding these "workers" who give you first hand reports, but I usually try & give rides from Nopolo when I go to town with the local workers when they are at the hwy. I haven't had one of them say anything derogatory about his job, or indicate to me he was unhappy.?????????
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[*] posted on 4-2-2007 at 01:35 PM


So, what is the current status of LB? How many homes are completed? What percentage of the 1st phase does that constitute? And how many people are moved in and kicking back?

Personnel comes and goes in any business.............

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[*] posted on 4-3-2007 at 06:39 AM


i flew over it last month low and slow. there were dozens of completed homes and lots of infrastructure. and looked like about twice as much under various stages of building processes.
sales are strong based on the news letter, You can only deliver so fast given the limited labor and material logistics.
compared to Calif ocean view/front property its a bargain i guess even at $250K for a small casita. Those people take the airlines down too, simple connections to Loreto, and don't forget all the Canadians as a customer base. They love it.




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[*] posted on 4-3-2007 at 08:25 AM


Someone can correct me if this is wrong information...........I have heard many times, that Mexican Labor Laws require any contactor in the building business who employs more than 5 workers, is required by law to provide one meal a day and decent housing for their employees....Also from what I have heard that the L.B.C. are not a good people to get involved with. Time will cetainly tell!!
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[*] posted on 4-3-2007 at 09:50 AM


Mike,
I don't think $ 250.000.00 will do any longer for a small casita:O:O.
The multi million dollar homes they are building across the 9th green from me are a long way from completion. I'm afraid that even the " first phase " is years from completion. Yes, years :(:(. There are workers everywhere, but the building almost seems to go in slow motion. Week after week nothing seems to change, even with tons of guys crawling around. In the mean time our intestines are well scoured with all the dust we're consuming:lol::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 4-3-2007 at 02:06 PM


$250K big samolleans can't get a man a shack at LB??

well, that's peso-flation fer ya!

glad i am a commoner.




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[*] posted on 4-3-2007 at 02:10 PM


"Week after week nothing seems to change"
looks like they're working on the authentic estuary

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