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oldhippie
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Proposed Colonet port
The on again, off again cargo ship port at Colonet is making news.
Will it be built? What do you folks think?
I've read that this project is in competition with the expansion of the facilities at Lazaro Card##as, and I've read there's no room for expansion at
Lazaro Card##as.
Guess I'll have to spend a month or two this fall with Smiley, Nacho, and most certainly the better half, driving the Ford Condominium down the
mainland Pacific coast to Nexpa/Playa Azul and take a day to see for myself. 
I don't think it matters to the shippers. When you're coming from China, both ports are in the same neighborhood.
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20070623-9999-1b...
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Bob H
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It will happen. It's just a matter of Mexican time!
Bob H
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DanO
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My sources tell me it is a done deal. They're just fighting over who gets what at this point.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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Tis a shame, in 1972 I was camped near the water, in the Colinet river bottom and I met the family that had a little piece of heaven right there. Just
east of the fishermans beach shacks there was a notch in the cliff that led to a valley, it was perfect. They had their house and orchards in there,
far removed from the outside world. very nice people, the son tooks us to his cousins house where the cousin grew herb, and got us some illegal
Tequilla, San Quintin area was dry for hard liquor. How the world changes, sometimes not for the better. I suppose they will get very rich, and lose
what they had.
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oldhippie
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Hey DanO, your sources, eh? Are they private?
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The port is just the receiving end of a huge plan. A railway is another part. They can't be trucking all this crap through Maneadero and Ensenada.
The largest hurdle has to be the US government, building a terminal to recieve this sunami of containers from Chinalandia and otras lugares.
For Mexico, I believe they will win on this but, for Baja, it will have a lot of pain. Perhaps, to our ideal of Baja.
We have to get ready to change our minds. It wont always be as we would like it to be but, they can't take our memories or rewrite our scrapbooks.
The land which once stood still is moving faster than we are. Joseph Wood Krutch would cry. He's probably doing just that.
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oldhippie
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Yuma farmers say "not in my backyard" to rail line from Colonet.
http://westernfarmpress.com/news/061107-union-railroad/
Isn't there a railroad in use now in Lazaro Card##as that connects to the US ?
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oldhippie
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I'm in favor of a port at Colonet if it's needed.
The Baja Barbary Coast Bar with live entertainment! Now that's authentic Mexican and very sustainable.
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Oldwonderingone -----
Can't be a freigtway track anywhere in the region. Narrow gauge may be in place but, it's news to me if there is.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldhippie
The Baja Barbary Coast Bar with live entertainment! Now that's authentic Mexican and very sustainable. |
The Barbary coast is in Africa.
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The English (who built the flour mill, now Old Mill) began a railroad to the U.S., and layed about 10 miles of track north when lack of rain forced an
end to the wheat growing operation, 100 years ago+.
That railroad route was to go to Valle Trinidad (from south of San Vicente) and through the San Matias Pass and up to Calexico, etc.
The Colonet to Yuma route of the new port facility to the U.S. is vertually the same.
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Not the Baja Barbary Coast.
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Or the Barbaric Coast............. Except at Hussongs, Friday night.
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DanO
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldhippie
Hey DanO, your sources, eh? Are they private? |
One is a Mexican landowner to the north, who also reported rumors that a LNG terminal is planned in connection with the port, possibly to be located
at Punta Santo Tomas. The other is an American real estate speculator, er, investor, who has been involved in discussions of the development of
commercial and residential properties in the Colonet area. Names are private, to protect the innocent.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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The rich titanium discovery at San Antonio del Mar dunes, just north is also part of the mess.
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oldhippie
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Thanks DanO, perhaps there is some wishful thinking on the part of your sources since they both could profit from the port, perhaps not. I was hoping
you'd name Steve McGarrett as a source of information.
Anybody want to go into the nightclub business? We'll have customers by the container load! Contraband titanium too! We need to get to work on
establishing a harbor side zona de tolerencia.
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oldhippie
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Dennis,
Thanks, I never heard of Joseph Krutch so I googled him up. I found this quote of his which I'll use on the Loreto Bay thread when I start my fall
offensive.
"If people destroy something replaceable made by mankind, they are called vandals; if they destroy something irreplaceable made by God, they are
called developers."
I like this guy.
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Oldresearcherofb-tchenquotes----
Thank you back for bringing Krutch's words to us. That quote is timeless albeit more relevant today than ever.
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DanO
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by oldhippieWe'll have customers by the container load! |
Now that you mention it, I think we'll be seeing a lot more Chinese restaurants in BCN.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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I just received an email letter from International Living on this topic.
June 26, 2007
Punta Colonet, Baja California
Dear Mexico First Alert Reader,
Mexico has announced plans to start the bidding process for the construction and operation of a mega-port and rail line in Baja California before
December 2007. The port-rail project, which may cost as much as $9 billion, will be based at Punta Colonet, about 150 miles south of San Diego.
The proposed port at Punta Colonet will be Mexico’s largest—to be used for container cargo only. For the U.S., it will serve as an alternative to the
congested ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, particularly for cargo shipped from Asia. These two ports are estimated to handle 40% of all cargo
entering the U.S. and 80% of all U.S.-bound cargo from Asia.
The concession for building and operating the Punta Colonet port will be paired with that of the rail line. The proposed railway will run from the
port up to the U.S./Mexico border east of Mexicali, facilitating shipments both within Mexico and to the U.S.
Punta Colonet is a sparsely inhabited inlet on the Mexican coast, about five miles inland from the small village of Colonet. Here, an agricultural
community of about 3,000 consists mostly of ejidos, or communal farms.
All that will change with the port and rail development. According to reports, the mega-port will cover nearly 7,000 acres, making it as large as the
ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach combined. An entire city of up to 200,000 people will be built to support port operations.
The Mexican government has asked the ejidos for input regarding the project master plan. Many of the ejido members with property in the proposed area
are in favor of the project.
Best Regards,
Suzan Haskins
Editor, Mexico Insider
International Living
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