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bajajudy
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It is not a lake anymore
They bored through to open the marina today.
I have pix but my battery is dead. Will post tomorrow.
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805gregg
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Just yesterday I read an article in the LA times about the damage to the estuary, and they hinted they thought the opening might be posponed. I
thought to myself no way, guess I was right, unfortunately. It's good for the people that want to boats there. Not me.
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Paula
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Sad news. I kept hoping that something would stop it-- like ethics, or common sense, or responsiveness to the will of the people. Kinda knew better.
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Sharksbaja
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The whole thing sucks. By the time opposition gains enough steam to perhaps change the outcome it's too friggin' late. It seems to me ALL projects get
completed pretty much as the initial plans call for. Another blow for coastal wildlife
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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Crusoe
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This is really too bad!!!......This will have immediate negative results in the loss of crtical and scarce wildlife habbitat. And later down the road
in a few years, it will have very harsh effects on all the working people when their fresh water supply has dried up. This is another classic victory
for the powers that be..... Mexican Politicos and big Drug Cartel honchos!!! They will just leave town in their big 90ft. yachts and go elsewhere.Why
should they care. The real question is.....Why should we care???....This is business as usual in Mexico. It always has been this way and will always
contiue to be this way. Very Sick!!!!!
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Bob and Susan
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why would this have an "immediate negative results in the loss of crtical and scarce wildlife habbitat"????
how would the marina affect the fresh water supply????
how are the "Drug Cartels" involved????
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David K
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The Sky is Falling!
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jerry
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loreto bay must have been involved too??
jerry and judi
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Paula
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
why would this have an "immediate negative results in the loss of crtical and scarce wildlife habbitat"????
how would the marina affect the fresh water supply????
how are the "Drug Cartels" involved???? |
http://oceans.greenpeace.org/raw/content/en/documents-report...
Here is a link with some info, Bob and Susan. I used google to find it. You can probably find more info on this subject using google. Maybe if you
have time to really delve deep you can find out how the drug cartels are involved. I'd love to find all of the answers for you, but unfortunately I'm
too busy today.
David K. I'm gonna sit here and LMAO when the sky falls on Shell Beach.
jerry You're a one trick pony.
Well, B&S, maybe the drug cartels aren't involved but the Mexican
government
[Edited on 7-12-2007 by Paula]
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MrBillM
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When Rape (of the land) is Inevitable.............
Relax and enjoy (or at least accept) it.
This is the way of things in the past and of things to come.
Economic interests in the Third-World are likely to always trump other considerations. Unfortunately for those in distress, rapidly expanding wealth
in the Western World in General and the U.S. in particular has made it possible and profitable to search out the better resort and recreational
venues, however remote, and put them to use in servicing the desires of those possessing said wealth.
If areas in the remote South Pacific and Asia are being turned into playgrounds for those who have the assets, then somewhere as close as Mexico can
expect to eventually have every single desirable spot used up.
In the Olden Golden days of American dominance of the Hemisphere, the common folks in Cuba, Hispaniola, Nicaragua and others did not revolt against
the Rich Gringo influence because they were dissatisfied with all of the profligate wealth. They were only unhappy that they were not sharing in it.
Joni Mitchell Lamented that "They Paved Paradise to put up a Parking Lot", but actually they're doing it to put in Marinas and Resorts.
Enjoy Today. Tomorrow WILL be Worse.
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Hook
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Doesn't Carlos Slim bear some responsibility?
China?
Bush Administration?
G-7?
Charlie Manson?
The Gays?
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Kencito
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Sorry to hear that the estuary is now a marina. Maybe a good strong huricane will recitify the situation.
I don't subscribe to the theory that the destruction of Baja to placate rich gringos is inevitable. I'd say the rich running rough shod over the
locals is what is not sustainable.
Many decades ago Los Angeles stole the water from Owen's Valley drying up the Owens River in the process. Today the Owens River is being restored and
fish are reappearing. Times change. Soon, getting away with plundering Baja won't be so accepted either.
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MrBillM
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Apples and Oranges and L.A.
Any comparison between ecological "triumphs" in the U.S. and the Third-World are, on their face, flawed.
We became rich enough in the U.S. to give weight to ecological concerns like the restoration of the Owens river and other such projects. As a result
of that Wealth, we had the luxury of developing laws with a conscience and the court system to recognize environmental rights.
Back when L.A. diverted all of that water we were, by far, probably a richer nation per capita than Mexico is today. If you're going to look forward
to the day that Mexico has the economic security to indulge themselves by denying development for ecological reasons, you will be either very old or
dead.
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Kencito
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I seem to remember that San Ignacio Lagoon was slated for major development.
It didn't happen. How does that square with the notion that big development is inevitable in Baja?
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Loboron
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Crusoe
“This is really too bad!!!......This will have immediate negative results in the loss of crtical and scarce wildlife habbitat. And later down the road
in a few years, it will have very harsh effects on all the working people when their fresh water supply has dried up. This is another classic victory
for the powers that be..... Mexican Politicos and big Drug Cartel honchos!!! They will just leave town in their big 90ft. yachts and go elsewhere.Why
should they care. The real question is.....Why should we care???....This is business as usual in Mexico. It always has been this way and will always
contiue to be this way. Very Sick!!!!!
Totally ridiculous…
I’ve been reading this thread and the previous “Watch” threads with regards to the new marina in San Jose del Cabo, Baja California, Mexico. O.K. I
know I’m a “Newbie” but folks, I’ve got more time in Baja and mainland Mexico than a lot of you have on this earth.
First off, I started going to Baja, Like Bernie, back in the late 50’s and early 60’s. I remember Ensenada when there were no paved roads. I recall
the main source of transportation was walking, horses, horses and buggies, very few cars or trucks. So a “Newbie” I’m not when it comes to Baja
California, Mexico.
Most of my time in Baja started in Cabo San Lucas; I used to run sportfishers down every year from San Diego. This was way before the marina was
built. In those days we put down our own moorings, (that’s’ ground tackle. anchors, lines etc to hold the boats in place) for the season.
Back then and this is my point, there were only 4 hotels on the coast south of Palmilla, the Hotel Cabo San Lucas (arguably the most beautiful hotel
in Cabo San Lucas) and now gone due to all the new resorts and resort homes to be built. The Hacienda Hotel, the Finisterra (“Lands End” built on the
tip of Baja) and the Sol Mar Hotel. The only real hotel downtown back then was the Marti Cortez and that was it.
Now they’re hundreds of hotels and resorts, golf courses and homes, and homes, and resort homes, gated communities, with homes using precious water
and electricity. These sites have eliminated all the “Protected” species, animals, birds, etc that were former dwellers in these habitats. Most all
you Nomads have now moved into your new homes in Baja California, Mexico or are in the process of buying land or building your new retirement home on
the once wide-open spaces of Baja, California, Mexico. Moving the birds, animal’s insects, etc. from the former habitats. Once there were deer in the
Los Cabo areas, not any more…
I can remember when you could drink the water out of any hose or hydrant in Baja Sur, this was before all the home and resort building destroyed and
contaminated the pipe lines that delivered the water from the springs in San Jose del Cabo and La Paz to all Baja California, Sur, Mexico. Today
there’s a shortage of water for the locals and gringos alike, why? Not from the new marina in San Jose, or the marina in Cabo San Lucas, but from all
the Golf courses, new homes and resort hotels all the Americans enjoy.
If it wasn’t for the Yachts and sportfishers back in the late 50’s and 60’s and 70’s this web site probably wouldn’t exist today. It was the growing
fleet of yachts that traveled to Cabo San Lucas each season, which was 6 months long that made Cabo San Lucas what it is today, the most expensive
port and city in all Mexico. The more yachts that came the more money spent in town. As the demand increased for services, so did the prices, they
were not stupid. The more the word got out about the climate and fishing the more folks started coming down. The 4 hotels started promoting “Fly,
Fish, and party packages, this brought the young people and the word spread even more. Then more flights and airlines were added. Now with all the
folks flying in for a weekend of fishing, the price of hotels started rising and the demand for land started so they could build homes and stay
longer.
Then with the new popularity came two TV series filmed on location in Cabo San Lucas, this caused thousands to start flying, driving, etc to get to
beautiful Cabo San Lucas. Then the building boom started and as they say, “The rest is history”
I know, I’ve rattled on for a while, but it’s difficult to read and hear the “Land Lubbers” complain about the marina and it’s effects on the
environment, when they turn a blind eye to what all the building has done to a formerly pristine location and it’s former environment. The fact is, as
I’ve previously stated, the marina in Cabo San Lucas and all the yachts and all the money that’s spent has made Baja California Sur what it is today.
You complainers need to read a good book on Los Cabos; by Robert E. Jackson, it’s called Lost Cabos He clearly describes what was and what is today.
There’s no mention of a marina in the book.
Just my 2 cents………….
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bajajudy
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Well here is the 1000 words.
The irony of a rainbow in the background was not lost on me.
[Edited on 7-12-2007 by bajajudy]
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Frigatebird
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajudy
...The irony of a rainbow in the background was not lost on me. |
If you look carefully, it's a pot of Fool's Gold at the end of that rainbow.
Avatar courtesy of Herb 
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bajajudy
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The last of an era
Probably wont see this site for too much longer
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MrBillM
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Looking Good
It is ALL Relative, as they say.
I remember as a Young Surfer in Southern California being outraged when they started building the marina at Dana Point and knowing it was going to
destroy one of my favorite spots.
Years later, the first time I rented a slip for my Sailboat in Dana Point, I sat in the c-ckpit at sundown drinking a cold beer and reflecting back on
those days. OH WELL.
Time and People change.
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Hook
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Yeah, the whole peninsula outta still be a barren, wind-swept desert. 
Hey, somebody get down there and see what the launching situation is! 
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