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sledneck
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Whats up in Cabo Pulmo?
I just got back from C.P. lots of new fences, huge new signs 6'x10' red and white NO TRESSPASSING bla bla bla, guards everywhere all the way from Las
Barracas to Vinorama.
Anybody know the real scoop, also whats the latest with the new road from the north supposedly going behind (west) of Las Barracas.
Thanks
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aliibike
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Former Mexican landowners, contesting the legality of sales, camping on their former property proclaiming it as their own again. Present owners hiring
security to protect their property. Been going on for two months now and I haven't seen a thing written about it.
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Don Alley
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New here, in Spanish:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=25414
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aliibike
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What sledneck saw is not the same thing. The house in Cabo Pulmo was demolished about a week before 30-40 people moved onto land South of Los Frailes,
now there a copycats all along the road. Property owners have hired security guards that now live on the land. Monday morning, 5AM, I saw 20-30 police
trucks headed toward the largest encampment. Haven't heard what went on. Maybe they threw everyone off?
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Hook
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What's up with Cabo Pulmo?
Newport Beach is coming just a few years later than if we had annexed Baja in 1846.
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Crusoe
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Osprey.......What is the latest that you have heard? Just exactly where... south of Los Frailes have these 30 to40 people moved onto? Antares ? Thank
You for any and all info. ++C++
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BCSTech
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I just sent a couple of e mails to some clients/friends we have there. Hopefully, they still have their PCs and HughesNet systems to reply...
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aliibike
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I just saw an article in the Tribuna from Aug 8. I tried to get it online, but failed miserably! Maybe someone else can do it? The cop trucks I saw
going by at 5AM (100 cops!) arrested all the squatters and took them away. Whether thats the end I don't know.
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gnukid
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Weird vibe there for a long time.
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Crusoe
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All the" Federales"???.......Just another Mexican comedy show!!..... Probably what is really happening is the powers that be ( High up Mexican Govt.
Officials) who do not own all the beach front land they want in the area yet, and the land alongside both sides of the dirt road on the East Cape
are putting the big squeeze on a little harder. The road from La Ribera to Cabo Del Sa Jose would have been paved 15 years ago if the right political
familys had gotten their way. And the land they coveted. They just send in the military if they dont get their way...... When you stop to think about
it.....it is just the same in the U.S.... When George Bush Sr. didn't nail Sadam,he had a second chance, so Little Georgie boy Jr. goes in with the
full force of the U.S. Military to grab Sadam and..... so they thought.... all of Iraqs oil reserves, and now look at the mess we have. They thought
they were dealing with alot of dumbed down Arabs?? Hello!!! Much different from some happy lazy satisfied little Mexicanos.Don't even start adding up
the $$ amounts we have spent. And still no weapons of mass destruction. I hope the rightfull land owners in Cabo Pulmo are able to retain their
property. ++C++
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oldlady
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Fascinating leap for a comparison.
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Osprey
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It is said "Hawk does not hunt til sun is high." Down here, waaay down south here, in the sizzlin summertime "Hawk does not hunt when sun is high."
I was at Los Arbolitos beach about a month ago but there was little going on and I didn't get as far as Frailes. When families live in the same place
for many generations they get to where they think they have some claim on the land. Such arrogance! BTW what's your best guess at how long is a
generation? Then tell me why.
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Crusoe
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Well stated Old Lady......Yes, Life is full of "Facinating Leaps" especialy if you happen to be a high up Mexican Political Official. You can have
anything and every thing you ever wanted......But not so for women and children. For them they get non existant health care and no education. Keep em
all ignorant and pregnant. And if there is any resistance, just send in the military. Just the Mexican way. It works well, but it all depends on which
side your particular piece of bread is buttered on.Enjoy. ++C++
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oldlady
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What do you suggest that you and I do tomorrow to start solving this problem in order to prevent ourselves from becoming an intrinsic part of it?
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aliibike
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I don't think we can blame W for this one. I've heard stories that as far as Mexico City goes, the East Cape road was paved 15 years ago! Someone
took off with the money long ago. And, I think you are right about someone getting paid off to remove the squatters. Someone was backing them, but the
owners of the property had more money. Plus, the developers around here didn't like the looks of machete wielding hard cases camped out on the road.
Bad for business. I'm just surprised it took so long to toss them out.
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gnukid
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Squatting is a difficult issue to consider, ethically. Let's say someone who is extremely wealthy, has tons of property and homes and is deliquent in
checking the properties fences. Then a large group comes and stays there, they get water and electrcity andwell, they have a home. Now the owner comes
back and he has to negotiate to get them to leave or maybe they won't leave. Law gives them some rights after 15 years. But can they prove it.
Squatters don't normally make good neighbors. Generalizing here, squatters don't do a lot of beautification and clean-up but they live and have rights
equal to others and in many cases more rights. So who do you support? It's a battle happening all over baja.
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Osprey
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Today's copy of the local Newspaper, 7 Dias en Los Cabos, says it turned ugly out there -- two 19 year old guys were hauled off after some gunplay.
found a bunch of ammo, a 22 and a 44 in the car. A 44 down here gets lots of press and attention so Tribuna and others might run it now.
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Crusoe
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The ammo and pistols were most certainly planted on the 19 yo boys by the federales...... The federales will do exactly what they want for whomever is
willing to cough up the most $ the quickest.... Its the Mexican way. Its a good system. It works well. Just another educated opinion. ++C++
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aliibike
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Not sure what the time line is with 7 Dias en Los Cabos, but I don't think you have the whole story yet. I had heard a couple weeks ago that the
security guards had fired off a round into the air when they felt threatened by the squatters with machetes. All second hand by me!!!!! The squatters
hadn't been there more than 2 months, not a year, not 15 years. This was very recent by people that sold the land 40 years ago and are trying to get
their land back on a technicality, or more likely a big payout to leave.
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Crusoe
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Thanks for the report aliibike. Just where exactly is this land located the squaters had try to establish themselves? Can you be specific as to
location? Thank you so much. ++C++
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