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elgatoloco
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Water worries
http://www.gringogazettenorth.com/index.php
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flyfishinPam
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Hi there,
just in the shop for a few minutes and skimmed through the piece. first of all its nice that the GG north doesn´t make you pay to look at their
online version, kudos for them!!
from what i read through very quickly, YES agents and salespersons are not giving all the infrmation to potential buyers on how serious the water
situation is. for example last November my parents took a tour of Loreto Bay. My mother asked the sales representative about the water situation in
Loreto and was told there is plenty of water and explained that we had just received water from Tropical Storm John and another system that dumped
rain over Loreto for half a day in October. also the rep stated that they were going to put a de-sal plant in that will be about the size of a semi
truck. So this is the complete B.S. that potential buyers are being told. The water worries is big news and truthful news that ought to replace the
sales propoganda thats been passing off as "news" for the last three years. WE all need to spread the word, it is our responsibility to do so.
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bacquito
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I enjoy hiking behind our lot in south Ensenada and compared to times past it is "bone dry" The soil is polvo and the plants are stressed or dead.
Frequently we lack water pressure but the building continues. Has Mexico proposed a solution-salt water desalinization
bacquito
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Keri
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It's not only Loreto
People up north better ask where their water is coming from too. I live here in La Mision, our water is being shut off and rerouted to Ensenada. It's
happening every week. This week it was for 4 days. I had to pay $500.00 this weekend to have water trucked in for the resort. Water is up t $30.00 a
truck load. Where are all these new condos being built going to get their water.Wait until their HOA's have to have water trucked in and their dues go
up. Boy won't everyone be in an uproar then,k
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Dave
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Either selective or spur line
Quote: | Originally posted by Keri
I live here in La Mision, our water is being shut off and rerouted to Ensenada. It's happening every week. |
Plenty of water here in the Ejido. Never been shut off. You guys might be on our pipa, hence the low pressure. The new main line goes to a water tower
at the top of the mountain on the east side of the cuota. At some point it crosses over,(I think north of the dairy). That's why Mission
Viejo is almost never affected while Medio Camino and points south are. The end of the line is just south of Puerto Nuevo. All points north are fed by
water from TJ. When Rosarito has a big weekend everything south is rationed.
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Bob and Susan
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"When Rosarito has a big weekend everything south is rationed. "
is a BIG weekend lots of flushes???
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Bob and Susan
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does the electricty go off too???
if it does...someone needs to turn
the pump back on when it looses power...
maybe "they" forget...thus no water
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Dave
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Thank God for pilas
Quote: | Originally posted by Hose A
I am in Ensenada and do not have water an average of 2 days a week. Most often on Monday and Tuesday but can be 3 or more days a week.
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Most have them. If they didn't, this place would be a war zone....
Just wait.
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DENNIS
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It's water rationing. By logic we will never understand, if the government doesn't mention it, the government isn't involved.
I'd be willing to bet that the hotels and the homes on Chapultepec Hill don't suffer the same inconvenience.
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Just wait. |
It's already happening. The fields in Maneadero are being irrigated with recycled sewer plant water. The water table feeding all the trucks/Pipas is
dangerously low. Pila or not, the water has to come from somewhere and "somewhere" is drying up.
Big problems on the horizon.
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Dave
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Don't think so
Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I'd be willing to bet that the hotels and the homes on Chapultepec Hill don't suffer the same inconvenience. |
Cause they have huge pilas and can get water deliveries with a simple phone call... Money talks.
Three years ago, when they replaced the main water lines I asked why, with all the planned development, CESPT would'nt put in bigger pipe. "We don't
have the flow rates", sez them.
"Uh-oh", sez me.
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Dave
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Are "the fields" protesting?
Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It's already happening. "The fields" in Maneadero are being irrigated with recycled sewer plant water. |
BTW, what are they growing?
I might wanna modify my diet.
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Cypress
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Last time I checked, the desert isn't a good place to look for a lot of water.
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
BTW, what are they growing?
I might wanna modify my diet. |
Various crops but, the pretty stuff still goes to the states. Then, for WalMart and Costco, it comes back down here.
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BajaNomad
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
...water has to come from somewhere and "somewhere" is drying up. Big problems on the horizon. | Until desal
plants become the norm (if?/when?)... do these towable bladders make any sense for any areas along the peninsula?:
http://www.canflexinc.com/ocean_towable_bladders_en.cfm
http://www.flexiblecontainment.com/towable_sea_tanks.html
I'm curious how the #s would "pencil out" for potable water supplied in this manner.
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comitan
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It looks to me to be a great idea, but to have a delsal Plant offshore where the pollution would be minimal, store the fresh water in the bladders tow
to shore and pump to land facilities or even pump from 3-5 miles out.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
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DENNIS
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Sea Slugs..........
I'm not conversant at all in this field. I don't know what 171,000 gallons will do.
At any rate, I suppose the water would have to come from the states, or somewhere north and I'm sure that's a whole seperate can of worms to be
opened.
Again, I show my lack of knowledge with a further question. Is Colorado River water still running into the Gulf or has that been controlled as well?
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Baja&Back
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Is Colorado River water still running into the Gulf or has that been controlled as well? |
We crossed the Colorado 30 miles south of the border at Coahuila, on the way to Golfo de Santa Clara. There was NO water in the riverbed, just mud
& brine pools.
It's totally sucked dry!
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Bob and Susan
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let's do some math....
if i use 500 gallons a week
for 30 days i use 15,000 gallons
a town of 50,000 would use 750,000,000 gallons
if the blatter was 171,000 gallons
we would need 4386 blatters
seems like alot of "blatter space"
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by Baja&Back
It's totally sucked dry!
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Thanks B+B..........I suppose it's being diverted for irrigation.
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