bajadock
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Alta California
Sept 9, 1850 The American Congress formally admits "Upper California", as a State of the Union -leaving Mexico only "Lower (Baja) California".
VIVA BAJA!
...from mexconnect.com
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Mango
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For all you history lovers out there with a little time to read..
Check out this passage from Clarence King's, "Mountaineering in the Sierra Nevada" that was written in the Mid- 1800's about his explorations in the
Sierras.
It is just one chapter from that book. It gives you a feel of California in 1864, as Clarence is chased across the Central Valley on horseback by two
Spanish/Mexican bandits.
http://www.abovecalifornia.com/lib/ClaranceKing/MOUNTAINEERING/06.php
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bajalera
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Ah, for those good old daya when political incorrectness was okay! Thanks, Mango, that was interesting. I've read some of Clarence King's
professional reports, but had no idea he was so adventurous.
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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A Good Day
There can be no question that "Alta" California becoming part of the United States of America was absolutely the best thing that could have happened,
then and now. The Mexicans I know wish that Baja California would have the same fate.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
There can be no question that "Alta" California becoming part of the United States of America was absolutely the best thing that could have happened,
then and now. The Mexicans I know wish that Baja California would have the same fate. |
Just curious; how do you feel about your second sentence?
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Self-Interest FIRST
From a personal standpoint, I am happy that it didn't become a part of the U.S. The cost of coastal living would have been beyond my reach. That's
true of the vast majority of foreign residents up until recent years. Living in a third-world economy on a first-world salary or pension is what
attracted the mass of foreigners and is still true for most.
Setting aside my own interests and looking at it from a practical standpoint today, I am unsure, but skeptical that it would be a good deal for the
U.S. The consequences of so many years of poor infrastructure installation and maintenance would result in astronomical costs to bring things up to
U.S. (even rural deep-south) standards. Since Baja has a limited number of natural resources and would enjoy no industrial advantages as a part of
the U.S., the principal income potential is from foreign investment for vacation or residential and we're already seeing the shortcomings of that
source.
While it's far more interesting to think about than musing over my Aunt growing Cojones, I don't see it as a logical possibility.
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It was in 1824 that alta and baja California was designated as a territory of the newly established Federal Republic of Mexico. The Miwok indians of
the San Joaquin Valley rise in rebellion.
In 1936, Californios (Mexican I surmise) revolt against Mexico and declare California a republic. Mexico co-opts (edit) the movement by upgrading
California from a territory to a department and making the leader of the revolt, Juan Bautista Alvarado, the new governor.
(From Kevin Starr's "California")
[Edited on 07/17/2004 by Packoderm]
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toneart
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Very interesting history lesson. Thank you all. Mr. Bill. thank you for your response, but your "Aunt growing cajones"?
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cojones
not cajones
as in, "if the queen had b@&&s she'd be the king.
drawers would not work so well...
lili
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MrBillM
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Confusing ?
The "Cojones" reference was to a comment made by Oso on the "Mexican Independence Day" Thread.
Actually, Baja California would stand a better chance of becoming part of the U.S. than the "Aunt" thing. I've never had an Aunt. My mother was an
only child and my father's only sibling died in early childhood.
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woody with a view
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| Quote: |
In 1936, Californios (Mexican I surmise) revolt against Mexico and declare California a republic. Mexico co-opts (edit) the movement by upgrading
California from a territory to a department and making the leader of the revolt, Juan Bautista Alvarado, the new governor.
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it make ones wonder how mexico feels about he average "hose A'???
GOD (i'm not a zealot!) i can't wait until the "chanklas" are on the other foot.......
edit:gringo spelling...
[Edited on 9-9-2007 by woody in ob]
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