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Keri
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Cuota warnings
This is the second email I have received on this subject so I am passing this on to you.k
This morning, Friday August 24, 2007, at 5:20AM, my husband (Steven B.
>Steele) was driving on the Toll Road towards San Diego from Rosarito in our
>Lincoln Navigator to teach his motorcycle classes; and a car, possibly a
>Chevy Caprice or a Ford Crown Victoria (it was a big sedan, with police
>lights, red and blue, mounted on the rear-view mirror, with flashing
>headlights---as it was dark, he couldn't tell what color the vehicle was)
>followed him and stopped him at San Marino.
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> Since my husband was driving a little over the speed limit, he thought
>it was the Federal Police that was going to give him a citation. As soon
>as he stopped, another car, silver-colored (this one was illuminated by the
>lights from our Navigator), similar to a Dodge Neon, pulled up in front of
>the Navigator impeding his escape.
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> Two men who were riding in the small car, not in uniform, shoved a gun
>at my husband's face (32 caliber, semi-automatic), at the same time that
>the individuals in the vehicle behind ours got out of their car. There
>were about 4 or 5 of them in that vehicle and they were not uniformed
>either. He saw 3 with guns but doesn't know if the other men (a total of
>7) were armed or not.
>
> They dragged my husband out of the Navigator, hit him, threw him in
>the back seat on the floor while they were hitting him in the back, as two
>men were holding his wrists and another man was going through his pockets,
>taking also his watch and two rings, including his wedding band.
>
> He had $450US and about $950Pesos, his American Passport, his reading
>glasses which he had hanging from his t-shirt, his wallet with the driver's
>license, credit cards, etc., the two cell phones, one a Cingular and the
>other one a Nextel radio.
>
> All of this was happening while one of the men started driving the
>Navigator, still going North. They stopped about 5 miles later, on the
>shoulder right past the Real del Mar exit, where they threw him out of the
>car violently without giving him a chance to get his feet out from under
>him, but he was able to hold on to the security rail and pushed himself to
>the other side of the rail, landing in a ditch; this avoided them running
>him over with the back tires of our Navigator.
>
> From there he saw them take off in the Navigator and all its contents:
>his FM3, his teaching backpack with all the materials that he uses to teach
>motorcycle instruction, including a couple of high-amount checks in US
> ollars that he was going to deposit in San Diego, his motorcycle helmet,
>gloves and boots.
>
> Then my husband walked, as well as he could muster, up the hill to the
>Marriott where he called me and the Police Departments in Rosarito as well
>as in Tijuana, giving them the report. They told him that a patrol car
>from Tijuana would go to the Marriott to talk to him.
>
> 45 minutes later my husband called the Tijuana Police back and they
>informed him that no patrol car was going to the Marriott and that he would
>have to report the carjacking to the Ministerio Público. Since he was
>stopped in Rosarito proper, but dumped in Tijuana proper, it's going to
>have to be reported to both municipalities.
>
> As soon as my husband called me I contacted dear friends of ours who
>live at Real del Mar and he went to keep him company and drove him home.
>
> I called Quálitas, our car insurance company, and they were very
>helpful. They immediately sent an adjustor to our home and he left us a
>list of the documentation required to report the carjacking to all the
>entities, giving us directions on how to get there. We are very thankful
>to Quálitas por their quick response and to their adjustor, Mr. Raúl Josué
>Lima Castillo for his excellent assistance at this horrendous occasion.
>
> We are now mired in calling insurance companies, banks, cell phone
>companies, etc. to report the theft, and will start the long road to all
>the governmental offices: the Ministerio Público, Municipal Police, Fiscal
>Police, Federal Police, and California Highway Patrol for we had California
>plates.
>
> When I called our Rosarito bank, I was informed that last week the
>same thing happened to other clients of theirs, around 2AM on the free road
>to Tijuana.
>
> My husband and I live and work in Rosarito. We are real estate agents
>with a local agency. The impact that this news is going to have on our
>clientele is going to be extremely detrimental for our city's tourism. So
>we will play it down as much as we can with our prospects.
>
> I've had the pleasure of meeting our new Municipal President, Mr. Hugo
>Torres, and I would like to notify him of this outrage and ask him that
>something be done to avoid these scary thefts during his Administration.
>
> We are very thankful to God that these men didn't shoot or kill my
>husband.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Velia Amparo Rivas and Steven B. Steele
>
>
>
 
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Bedman
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Wow... It just gets worse and worse. Glad to hear that the husband is ok. Here's a little tip that makes life easier IF you ever lose your wallet.
Take all of your wallets contents out, lay them down on a copy machine and make a copy, front and back. You'll have all the info you need to report
the losses.
Be safe out there!
Bedman
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Bajaboy
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Okay, I was feeling bad for this guy until I read this part:
> My husband and I live and work in Rosarito. We are real estate agents
>with a local agency. The impact that this news is going to have on our
>clientele is going to be extremely detrimental for our city's tourism. So
>we will play it down as much as we can with our prospects.
>
Zac
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Barry A.
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Bajaboy--------you were thinking that they should tell their clients that the crime is now impossible, and that they should never buy there????
Right!!!!!!
It ain't going to happen, and it shouldn't-----------buyers should do their homework-----it's called "due diligence", I believe.
I, for one, feel very badly that this guy had to go thru this------nobody should have to indure that kind of abuse and terror.
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roundtuit
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The scale of justice!!!! Money or the truth????
Never learned from a book-Only from mistakes, mine and yours
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Hook
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Early morning...........pricey wheels.
A sting operation would be so easy to end this that it must have some protection by one of the police departments.
Surprised that the Mexican insurance companies havent raised a stink.
Again, no local publicity?
Baja Norte has become a gauntlet. Break out the pizza insurance.
Or avoid altogether................
[Edited on 9-17-2007 by Hook]
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Bajafun777
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I still believe the Federal Police should put up sting cars with armed officers that have automatic weapons so when these pieces of $$it who pull
these hold-ups get every ounce of lead that the Federal Government of Mexico can afford them. Until they do this these robberies will just keep
happening and it will not just stay with the current time frame, so others that think they are safe are in for a bigger surprise. Just hope that
innocent people do not get kill until Mexico gets with the program of stopping this nonesense. In the U.S. this would be stopped in few days since
they are pulling it on the same road and about the same time lines, enough is enough. Thoughts and Prayers are with those victimized and those that
are going to be victimized. Later------- bajafun777
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bajaguy
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Maybe
We need the military back...........
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Roberto
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People, not to worry - I'm sure this is another falsehood being spread by the not-so-sure-what brigade of folks who take pleasure in spreading rumors
about Mexico.
So, have at it, let's see if you can find a board this person posts on that is not to your taste, or something else that you can criticize and make it
clear how your superior knowledge of Baja and its ways are the answer to all potential problems.  
[Edited on 9-17-2007 by Roberto]
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
People, not to worry - I'm sure this is another falsehood being spread by the not-so-sure-what brigade of folks who take pleasure in spreading rumors
about Mexico.
So, have at it, let's see if you can find a board this person posts on that is not to your taste, or something else that you can criticize and make it
clear how your superior knowledge of Baja and its ways are the answer to all potential problems.
[Edited on 9-17-2007 by Roberto] |
Amen, Roberto. I was trying to figure out a clever way of putting it but you have done it.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Bajaboy--------you were thinking that they should tell their clients that the crime is now impossible, and that they should never buy there????
Right!!!!!!
It ain't going to happen, and it shouldn't-----------buyers should do their homework-----it's called "due diligence", I believe.
I, for one, feel very badly that this guy had to go thru this------nobody should have to indure that kind of abuse and terror.
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It was my impression that the Realtor, I mean real estate agent, was supposed to represent, read fiduciary duty, his/her client. I suppose one should
use "due diligence" when choosing an agent. Remember the karma factor....
Zac
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Roberto
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Thanks Hook - it's not actually that funny any more but there it is.
I'd like to hear about your transactions in San Carlos some time (off-line). It's a great place if you have the time to spend time there, no question.
I remember my time there fondly, the views of Tetakawi and all - even in the heat of July.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Bajaboy--------you were thinking that they should tell their clients that the crime is now impossible, and that they should never buy there????
Right!!!!!!
It ain't going to happen, and it shouldn't-----------buyers should do their homework-----it's called "due diligence", I believe.
I, for one, feel very badly that this guy had to go thru this------nobody should have to indure that kind of abuse and terror.
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It was my impression that the Realtor, I mean real estate agent, was supposed to represent, read fiduciary duty, his/her client. I suppose one should
use "due diligence" when choosing an agent. Remember the karma factor....
Zac |
Honest Realters....give me a break
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Keri
This morning, Friday August 24, 2007, at 5:20AM, my husband (Steven B.
>Steele) was driving on the Toll Road towards San Diego from Rosarito in our
>Lincoln Navigator to... |
TJ-Rosarito area is getting to be like DF or any big border city: you better get a body guard of you drive a flashy car, and don't stop for any cop
-- let them follow you to a police station or busy public place like a toll booth or front door of a Gigante.
Also, if you drive at nite, you should convoy with armed body guards, and have armored car (if you drive a newish or flashy car, you better get armor
anyways).
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Barry A.
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I think one should use "due diligence" when choosing ANYTHING!!!
I have never had any problems with Realtors, either brokers or agents----------but I am careful who I "choose" to represent me, and always check them
out before doing business with them. Duh!!!!
If you truly expect a realtor to reveal all the possible negatives, you live in the land of Oz----------THEY ARE TRYING TO SELL YOU SOMETHING. 
What all this has to do with an innocent person being robbed and terrorized is beyond me. 
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DanO
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Well, FWIW, they do appear to be actual realtors. Here's a website advertising their services.
http://www.baja123.com/CONTACT_US/page_1232095.html
http://veliaamparorivas.point2homes.biz/
Why would someone in their position want to scare people off? Seems counterintuitive to me.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
People, not to worry - I'm sure this is another falsehood being spread by the not-so-sure-what brigade of folks who take pleasure in spreading rumors
about Mexico.
So, have at it, let's see if you can find a board this person posts on that is not to your taste, or something else that you can criticize and make it
clear how your superior knowledge of Baja and its ways are the answer to all potential problems.
[Edited on 9-17-2007 by Roberto] |
Roberto,
Is your post criticizing Keri, the Nomad who started this string? She says she is posting an email that she has twice received. I believe she has
credibility on this board and I assume she knows the person who sent her the email. She has seemingly distanced herself from the validity of the post
by not offering any conjecture.
I appreciate her post, true or not. If true, we all need to be made aware. If not true, who's to know, including Keri? Of course others will offer
opinions, either sarcastically or in earnest. That's what you will get, but who really knows unless it can be substantiated?
If it really happened, it comes on the tails of other, similar posts.
At least, this one was not initiated on the BD board, which many here have regarded as suspect. I reserve judgement. How would I know? How would you
know?
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Roberto,
Is your post criticizing Keri, the Nomad who started this string? |
Nope, how in the world would you get that from my post????? With all the goings on recently, I thought it would be PRETTY OBVIOUS who I was
"criticizing". Not been paying enough attention, I guess. 
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Roberto,
Is your post criticizing Keri, the Nomad who started this string? |
Nope, how in the world would you get that from my post????? With all the goings on recently, I thought it would be PRETTY OBVIOUS who I was
"criticizing". Not been paying enough attention, I guess.
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I didn't make that an accusation, just a question because it wasn't that obvious to me. I am not trying to be confrontational. You have answered my
question to my satisfaction with the word "nope". I don't need to know, or care, who you are criticizing.
[Edited on 9-17-2007 by toneart]
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
[I don't need to know, or care, who you are criticizing.
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That's obviously not the case - otherwise why would you have asked the question?
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